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  1. Tronguy

    Car autoconnects to WiFi at supercharger?

    Been to a number of these SCs over the last four years or so; it’s not a new phenomenon. Unfortunately for your cell phone idea, it’s a secure SSID connection with a Tesla name in it that the car can autoconnect to; but the password isn’t something that’s not a Tesla knows. Kind of like how the...
  2. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Um. No. At least, I haven’t heard that one. Been at sea. Got seasick once, early on, then got over it; not unusual, this happens to a lot of people. The issue, as I understand it: one is in a ship/vehicle, ship is moving up and down, pitching fore and aft, rolling side to side, and it’s all...
  3. Tronguy

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Interesting comment you've got there. As regards Consumers' Reports: Yeah, I've been a subscriber, for decades. And, for the purposes of this reply, I'm going to separate CU's reportage into two pieces: Reports and such that depend upon individual persons' evaluations. Reports and such that...
  4. Tronguy

    Tesla FSD now $8k

    Back in the day, EAP was available as an FSD variant that, pretty much, ran only on highways. It would do LK, TACC, change lanes back and forth, Navigate on Autopilot (so long as one stayed on highways), and, as a bonus, would do summon and auto park. It lost the summon when everyone else did...
  5. Tronguy

    Tesla FSD now $8k

    Trollish statement. Bought FSD back in 2020 or so with a 2018 M3; traded in that car for a 2023 variant last year when the FSD transfer popped in. The SO's been driving her 2021 MY with EAP and got the trial, just in time to head to Dallas from NJ and back for the eclipse. We were both...
  6. Tronguy

    Poll: When will FSD V12 be in wide release?

    Maybe, maybe not. Car internals, actual W-hr/mile, and a few other things that ABRP can't directly see make it closer. Dunno. When did that trip out to Dallas, used ABRP to figure out, roughly, how long it would take and where to stay. But than used the NAV by simply plugging in the...
  7. Tronguy

    Poll: When will FSD V12 be in wide release?

    Um. It's been known since the early times that the Tesla NAV software (never mind FSD, EAP, or what-all) attempts to get one to one's destination as Quickly As Possible. To that end, the software in the car and the Mothership (which knows which SC locations are crowded, which have 250 kW...
  8. Tronguy

    2019 awdLR

    I know that when I bought FSD in 2021 (I think) they gave me a HW3 upgrade as part of the deal. Also: I sold the 2018 M3 last year and bought a replacement 2023 version. The 2018 got a bad case of the front-end squeaks when the left control arm bushing apparently ran out of grease. The...
  9. Tronguy

    NEMA 10-30R on a 20A Breaker?

    Actually: Those NEMA14-50's get abused, more or less, by electricians all the time. And, weirdly enough, this is approved by the NEC. As it happens, if one looks at the NEMA chart, one will notice that there's 15A 120/240, connectors, as well as 20A, 30A. and 50A. But there's no 40A connectors...
  10. Tronguy

    Well, that’s lovely…

    Long ago, in a Galaxy Far Away, when I was much younger and was running around in a bought-from-my-dad '71 VW Beetle, I had one of those plug kits in the front trunk. (They didn't call them frunks in those days.. What was in the rear was the engine.) Got a flat on the body of the tread. I did...
  11. Tronguy

    Well, that’s lovely…

    Well, the good news is that the screw's on the fat of the tread; no problem getting it either plugged or patched. And, y'know, over here one Tesla happens to have a Tesla Special air pump/flat tire kit; the other Tesla has a $15 (or whatever it was) air pump from Advanced Auto or something...
  12. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    For what it's worth, various CS types and/or hucksters of various flavors have been using, or maybe I should say misusing the term "Artificial Intelligence" whenever there's a buck or concept to be made. Back in the 80's people would call predictive software systems "Artificial Intelligence" if...
  13. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Actually.. you got to be pretty careful on these blanket statements. With humans we have an.. interesting relationship with Time and Predictions. If you think about it for more than a bit, with a long reaction time, how in the heck can a baseball batter hit a ball, or how can someone catch a...
  14. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    That may indeed be the case.. sort of. Tesla has mentioned a few times on the 2024.x releases that they've "improved" the highway software here and there. So: The EAP/highway code is NN image recognition and such and 300k+ lines of C++ code. Nothing says that that stuff's been unchanged since...
  15. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I've had a number, probably less than four, over the past few weeks on 12.x. Usually it's for no discernible reason, but I'll get the "Take Over Now!" with the red hands on the display. No strikes; just FSD losing its way. I do think it tends to happen more often at toll booths; but I've gone...
  16. Tronguy

    Alignment question

    FWIW, the SO and I drove her 2021 MY with some 15k miles on it from NJ to Dallas and back. It was due for a tire rotation, so took the car to the local AAA travel/car maintenance place for that. And, while was at it, asked them to check the alignment. After making sure that they could do Teslas...
  17. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Ha. Got a good one for you guys. So, there was this guy, Seward Johnson, who was a scion of the J&J crowd. You know, the company that makes band-aids. Being independently wealthy, he picked up a hobby: Making life-like statues of various people. In New Jersey, the old State Fair grounds (long...
  18. Tronguy

    L2 Amperage Reduction Over 90%

    To answer the question about the charging current: As far as I know, all Teslas (and probably all BEVs) have limits on the charging current as one approaches full charge. And, interestingly, the charging currents at those high SOC (State Of Charge) are the same for both L2 and Supercharging...
  19. Tronguy

    New M3 owner and wall connector issue..anyone seen this before

    So, let's get this straight. As it happens, I have a Gen 2 Wall Connector; but for these purposes there's no difference between Gen 2 and Gen 3. The WC's have either software configuration (Gen 3) or rotary switches (Gen 2) that tell the internal hardware what the ampacity of the circuit is. On...
  20. Tronguy

    Vendor Question: Tesla Charging Stations Opening to Other Brands

    There's been quite a bit of discussion on the various forum threads on this over the past few months since all the various other car companies have decided to join the NACS bandwagon. Biggest concern: Overcrowded superchargers. Main reason this won't be a problem: The number of Other BEVs are...
  21. Tronguy

    2024 Eclipse Roadtrip Supercharger Experiences?

    Hokay. So the SO and I went from Central NJ to Dallas, arriving on Friday noon before the eclipse, pretty much following I78 to I81 and I40 on the way out, stopping once in Bristol, TN and Little Rock, AK. The return was, starting on Tuesday late afternoon the day after the eclipse, stopping...
  22. Tronguy

    Invisible man chasing my car -- FSD 12

    I've never had an invisible man; but my SO, driving a 2018 M3 back in 2021, did have a horse. On the front right of the car in a physical locale where No Horse Should Ever Go.
  23. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Or.. and I sneak my personal weird thinking in here.. the car is doing some self-training, neural net style. Yeah, yeah, I know: It Can't Possibly Be Doing That. Everybody says so.
  24. Tronguy

    Poll: When will FSD V12 be in wide release?

    And, while I’m not disagreeing with you on the basics of what you said, there has been a tweet or two from the Tesla developers saying that they’ve been “improving” the V11 highway stack. And that those improvements have been working their way into the EAP and such for non-FSD vehicles as well...
  25. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Well, I'm going to get a lot of flak from those who've been waiting for updates and haven't gotten any. As mentioned before, took a long road trip on a 2021 LR AWD MY, with a recent install of 2024.3.10/12.3.3 in there. However, my daily driver, a 2023 LR AWD M3 was sitting in the garage...
  26. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Trip report on 12.3.3. And it's a bit of a doozy: From NJ to Dallas, TX; from there to Southern Indiana, and then back to NJ. Yes, a lot of highway driving. 2021 AWD LR MY with USS. It got the 2024.3.10/12.3.3 update about two days before we left. First: A heck of a lot of highway driving. No...
  27. Tronguy

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I've been trying that. It doesn't matter. End trip ends the trip but doesn't stop FSD. Any move to stop FSD (brake pedal, steering wheel, up-shift on the shift lever) results in that, "What did FSD do wrong?" prompt.
  28. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    As it happens, I sold a 2018 M3 RWD LR in September last year. I had had FSD on the thing that got transferred to a newer 2023 M3 LR AWD. Couple of notes on your experiences: $DIETY only knows where the software on that car has been. The original 2018 cars did not come with HW3; one got the...
  29. Tronguy

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    Um. So, here we are again, arguing about whether the NN stuff in a Tesla is trainable in any sense by the users. Every half year or so, I raise this possibility, since the rough block diagram of a NN computer (and this is generalized, so it includes wetware as well as hardware) always shows...
  30. Tronguy

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Two good reasons: If one hangs out on the FSD12.X thread, there's a lot of people who had given up on FSD and weren't using it who've come back to the fold. Either to experiment; sometimes to complain, but mostly positive stuff. Since the wide release of 12.3.3 to (pretty much) any Tesla owner...
  31. Tronguy

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Hokay. First off, I'm going to claim I've got chops. Background in RADAR, integrated circuits, system software, firmware, circuit board design, diagnostic code, lots of different assembly languages, and have part of groups, sometimes the leaders of said groups, involved in bringing big, hairy...
  32. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Um. I said, 'The MY has the adaptive speed setting set. Contrary to other opinions around here, this does not cause Immediate Death, Destruction, And Explosions Of All Cars (including mine) in the vicinity. Um. The car kept up with traffic, with which there was lots.' You appeared to take that...
  33. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    So, trip report. Currently am doing the long run with a MY from NJ to Dallas. This is the end of the second day. With a 2021 MY 12.3.3. So, as expected, most of the miles have been on various and sundry interstates. But, interestingly, have been getting to and from Superchargers in areas where...
  34. Tronguy

    Poll: When will FSD V12 be in wide release?

    Odd. My SO's 2021 MY with USS, bought EAP, and now on the FSD trial, very definitely has Autopark; used it several times today. The 2023 M3 AWD LR that we bought 9/2023 also has Autopark. What with the transferred FSD from an older M3, it had Autopark the moment it showed up in the FSD12.x...
  35. Tronguy

    Can you use Smart Summon while on FSD trial

    I may be missing something. We have two cars at this household, one a 2021 MY with EAP and USS. It also has RADAR, although my understanding is that that's disabled. The other car is a 2023 M3, bought in September of last year, and had FSD transferred from an older 2018 M3. This car has...
  36. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I'm pretty sure that only people with EAP or FSD get autopark. And, possibly, summon. Got two Teslas over here; a 2021 MY with USS (and a RADAR somewhere) and a 2023 M3 with nothin' but vision. At the moment, both cars are on 2024.3.10. Both have autopark and can, and do park themselves. The...
  37. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    As it happens, I've been driving around with the 12.3.x loads with the Auto Speed turned on. It's been interesting: On local roads sometimes it goes slower than the limit; sometimes faster than the limit, but seems to be keeping up with traffic, mostly. And it's a new shiny thing, so of course...
  38. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Um. Think you're wrong on this one. All factory loads since last September have come with at least 10.x; during the Xmas blow-out everybody was updated to a version that carried 11.4.9. And new factory loads came with that, too. I've had loads on the cars that Teslafi hadn't gotten around to...
  39. Tronguy

    Wiki FSD’s Earliest Adopters Still Waiting

    Um. Two things, in reverse order: Around here, it's not uncommon to buy a house before it's built. One gets a discount for doing that. Sometimes, a pretty hefty discount. There's risk involved: The builder could go bust, a sinkhole could open up, etc. My understanding with FSD is that it's like...
  40. Tronguy

    Wiki FSD’s Earliest Adopters Still Waiting

    Um. There’s been plenty of rumors over the years that Tesla’s been doing some, I guess, basic FSD development in other countries outside of North America. (Not sure about Mexico.) But regulators, notably those in the EU, have banned Tesla’s tech. Although there are other rumors that home-grown...
  41. Tronguy

    My experience taking Tesla to court about FSD

    Yeah, well, everybody’s making fun of the name. But there’s something odd happening: when one downloads and installs the latest FSD(S)-enabled version on a car that heretofore hasn’t had FSD installed, there’s this bit in the release notes where, up to now, one is warned that FSD is dangerous...
  42. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Um. Said blue line has been around for a llloooonnnngggg time; it dates back to at least 11.x. It indicates the line up to which the car is going to creep when looking for crossing traffic. You've probably been smart and have been looking out the windshield rather than at the computer screen :).
  43. Tronguy

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Just wanted to mention something here; somebody else may have said something about this on this thread, but don't think so. As you out there all know, Tesla is pushing new, FSD-enabled loads of software out to all US Tesla cars that can support FSD 12. They started with those of us who've been...
  44. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    So, looking at all you guys. The MY got updated to 2024.3.10 earlier today. The M3 got updated to 2024.3.6, what, two days ago. NO WAY was there going to be another update for the M3. I just checked. It's now downloading. I wonder if Tesla discovered something Truly Evil in all the 12.x...
  45. Tronguy

    My experience taking Tesla to court about FSD

    Um. So, I'm over on the left side of the pond. And this thread is all about having fun and.. maybe recompense in the UK court system. For, as I understand it, false promises made about the availability of FSD. I get it, it's 'way late. But.. those of us over here are now playing with FSD...
  46. Tronguy

    Can you use Smart Summon while on FSD trial

    Well, between 2:52 p.m. and now, the SO's 2021 MY got updated to 2024.3.10 and FSD 12.3.3. Life now gets interesting. This car has USS and RADAR, although the RADAR is pretty much disabled. It very definitely has Autopark; I've used it twice in parking lots and it does its thing. But the view...
  47. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Hokay. So, Serendipity Strikes! The SO's 2021 MY got upgraded to 2024.3.10 and FSD 12.3.3 this afternoon. I got to go out on a grocery run or two and have Comments. comparisons. My daily driver is a 2023 M3 with Vision, no RADAR, no USS, and currently is running 2024.3.6 and FSD 12.3.2.1...
  48. Tronguy

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    FWIW, I've got 2024.3.6 on my 2023 M3 with 12.3.2.1 FSD and it Very Definitely has that nifty auto park. I've used it a half-dozen times or so over the past few days and it does what it says on the label. No summon on the car or in the app, but that Auto Park is present and accounted for. Note...
  49. Tronguy

    Wiki FSD’s Earliest Adopters Still Waiting

    Yeah, it's a vaguely technical term. Back in Ye Olden Days, the world was roughly divided into two parts: hardware with a CPU that had, attached to it, ROM (Read Only Memory) that was programmed once and Never Again. Think of this in terms of an original IBM PC with the BIOS (Basic...
  50. Tronguy

    Can you use Smart Summon while on FSD trial

    Um. The SO drives a 2021 MY with USS and EAP. Everybody lost Smart Summon (that is, getting the car to drive to one across a parking lot) about the same time, a couple of years ago. What's left is being able to back the car in or out of a parking place. And that's it. The 2018 M3 with FSD (and...