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Yeah that may not fly, I don't know, IANAL. A more interesting question, I suppose, is what if there were a pattern of techs failing to tighten down wheels properly, which they promised the NHTSA to address and did not?

Additionally, I'll again reiterate that the tech did not "forget to tighten down a bolt" like some kind of minor oopsie. They removed a bolt from the car on a critical safety system, and then did not reinstall it. The seatbelt was put back in position, between the seats, and appeared fine...

Well, the PCS appears to have failed again for the second time in as many months. Check out the error messages this morning. And again we appear to have dodged a bullet, since the 12V system died overnight, and not while we were driving on the highway.

The recall ended, but they're still not bolting the seatbelts back in after PCS repair. I did not receive any recall notice after my December PCS repair. They seem to have just kind of stuffed the middle belt back between the seats so it looked like it was OK and sent me on my way.

Thank you. My hope is to be rid of the car and the brand altogether. This is worse than malaise-era GM. But as you say, perhaps I'll have to ride it out 3 years, wondering if some lack of QA protocol caused a serious issue that's going to kill my kids.

Regarding the PCS failure - it was not a "won't charge at 40A" kind of thing. It was a total 12v system failure with a "Pull Over Immediately" message. Whether or not that's a safety issue in the eyes of CA Lemon Law, I have no idea, but I'm very glad it happened in my driveway and not on the...

Want to buy out my lease?

My understanding is that this was an issue that started to happen last summer. They recalled all cars that might have this issue, and in the fall, said they were going to fix the process so it didn't happen again. To me, it looks like they didn't fix the process. The tech didn't "forget to...

California Lemon Law is more strict when death is a possibility. The factory f'd up the electrical system, and then the service center f'd up the repair. I don't know who to trust. I don't want this car anymore.

This is what utter negligence looks like. The PCS failed on my ~5 day old car, and the service center forgot to bolt the seat belts back in on completing the repair. This occurred in January 2023. I was not sent any notice about a recall. The seatbelt simply popped out from between the seats...

IF YOU HAD YOUR PCS SERVICED, CHECK THAT YOUR SEAT BELTS ARE BOLTED INTO THE CAR The PCS failed on my 2023 Model 3 on day ~5 of ownership. The car was towed to the service center as it was not drive-able, and Tesla fixed it about a week later. During the fix, the techs apparently forgot to...

Yeah, unless it was causing a 12v system failure and the car was trying to shut down on the highway. Not sure if that's a failure mode. My HV and 12v systems both shut down while the car was sitting there charging.

5 day old 2023 Model 3 with 91 miles on the odometer. Totally dead and undriveable, diagnosed as PCS failure, now awaiting repair. Lemon law in CA 2x attempts to repair a “dangerous” issue, or 4x for other issues. Not sure if this constitutes a dangerous issue or not. And given that the car...

The irony is that the parking assist was one of our favorite features on the 2019. It was the best parking assistance feature on any car I’ve driven. To the point that we are now willing to pay more for other cars to get the front USS for parking assist. (We have some people in our family...

Our Model 3 has no USS, which we just realized, and we are pissed. After 2 days of being like "why aren't the parking sensors working," and then reading about them killing off these sensors, we tried to return it, but they wont' take it back. We had a 2019 Model 3 that we just sold to get this...

Thanks - I'll see how the pad swap goes (I had EBC yellows as street pads on my old Miata track car and loved them) and then look at this mod.

I'm just shocked they removed this functionality before they had a functioning solution. It's crazy. We really wanted a Mach E, but you can't get one without paying a huge markup or waiting 10 months right now. Same for the EV6/Ioniq. My wife thinks the Bolt is too ugly. So here we are...

Bump. FYI the brake feel is still really terrible on the 2023 Model 3. Really awful. Swapping out fronts to EBC Yellows this weekend. At least there are more options now.

We just took delivery of a 2023 Model 3, and it has no Park Assist. This is absolutely unacceptable. Our 2019 Model 3 had parking sensors. Park Assist is a feature that's on almost every single modern car even at half the price, and it's one of the most useful features on modern cars. I am...

Yes, whenever there is a merge and cars are parked on the sides of the street. It's pretty jarring.

I don’t understand why this is so difficult. With $120,000, anybody in their right mind would buy 12 Miatas.

I'd assume this just means they built in some amount of toe-in under compression in the rear? You see that now on lots of cars with rear multi-link suspensions (including the Mazda3). One famous example of this design is the first-gen Honda S2000, which had so much toe gain under compression...

That's definitely good practice. I didn't put anything else under there because the entire underbody is just a flat plate and I had no idea what areas are load bearing vs. not. Is the battery rail load-bearing? If so, seems like you could use it as a point (or two) for a jackstand, so long as...

Yeah, lifting the car in your garage is a serious issue. I was thinking about bolting some angle iron to the sides of a 2x4 and using it as a bootleg Rennstand type thing. When I swapped brake pads, I just didn't use a jack stand. Car was resting on Harbor Freight's finest hydraulics. A bit...

The speed on the straights is incredible. Allan he's at least +20mph vs. your M3P at the end of the front straight, and he's >100mph at start/finish. Absolutely agree there is some room for improvement in the corners. When the Viper ACR set the record at Laguna, you can see the driver is far...

How do you like the Exocet?? My wife and I were discussing building one a couple years ago, then baby happened. How difficult was the construction? At some point I'm thinking I'd love to build something like that, or just get me and my kids into karting :)

Hot lap looks to hit 115mph at the end of the front straight.

Yes, many of us dislike the stock brake feel. Strongly suggest swapping in Mountain Pass "Street" pads up front. Brake feel is still not that good, but it solves the issue just enough (to the point that it's no longer distracting to me) for only $200. Install took less than 30m total in my...

It's so odd - my friend's 2018 BMW M2 doesn't even have adjustable front camber. He's currently destroying the shoulders on his Michelin PSS at track days and is going to have to get some camber plates. That M2 is touted so much as a track-focused car, but it's really not set up that way as stock.

Still counts! You caught them so you were clearly doing faster lap times. In my (momentum) car, the absolute key to Laguna lap times are turns 5 and 6 because they're uphill and I have no power. Not sure where the make/break corners are in the Tesla. Maybe 6 is a place to focus because...

@2:17, passes an NSX like it's an anchor . . . Great driving, and great to see you out there! Next time, I'd love a ride if we can make it work! PS I love your line through 3. I always felt like I couldn't get 3 right, but it clicked for me on Friday and I'm doing it similarly to you - turn...

It beeps loudly and usually applies some light counter-steering, but not that much. The counter-steering is jarring at first. I'm learning to anticipate when it's about to happen. I get alerts from this system and from the "you're about to rear-end somebody" system probably at least once a...

Awesome! I'm in Open (red) group (gray Miata #469) - I'll come say hi. REALLY want to see a M3 in action on track! Watching a car accelerate in silence on the front straight is going to be cool.

Yeah point by always fills up really fast with NCRC. How was Track Masters? I've run with HOD, NCRC, Lotus Club, and a couple others. I like Lotus Club and NCRC the best because of the focus on safety and relatively low cost. Really hoping to see a Tesla out there on Friday this week!

Sweet. What group was that with? I'm going to be out at Laguna Seca on Friday this week with NCRC. Going to try and break 1:50 this time out! Might be my last change to get into the 1:40s before my next kid is born and I don't go to the track for a year...

Yeah but what if your torque wrench says Harbor Freight on it and cost $13?

Yeah the question is who will touch a car with aftermarket control arms in the rear (camber and toe). The MPP adjusters appear to be dead simple, just turnbuckles, and probably limited cross-talk. I think the Firestone by me would do it, but it totally depends on the managers at your local...

Edge tried to charge my friend $800 to swap brake pads out and do a fluid flush on his BMW M2. That place is such a ripoff.

Good news! Went to the service center around mid July and they agreed the crack was a warranty issue. Replacement glass was not in stock. Made another appointment for ~3 weeks later and they did the replacement. Car was in at 8am, out by 4pm after the glue set. They said it is a warranty...

I've had my track car aligned by Roger Kraus in Castro Valley if you're looking for a specialty shop. They're a general-purpose race shop and more than likely willing to work on the car. These days, I actually purchased a lifetime alignment from Firestone and get the work done at the Broadway...

No, I really like the regen braking on my Model 3. I hate the feel of the hydrualic brakes. Swapping out to the MPP Street brake pads helped somewhat, though.

Correct. Indeed I do not find the Model 3 to be The Greatest Car Ever Made as is commonly asserted here and elsewhere. It did not ruin me for ICE vehicles because there are many ICE vehicles I prefer over any available EV. My reaction to this thread is: I find the idea that the Model 3 could...

I also agree this sounds like it could be tire related.

I like the drivetrain of my Model 3, but everything else is fairly neutral to negative vs. some ICE cars at this point. I vastly prefer the handling, feeling of connectedness, and ability to do an entire track day of my Miata and my sister-in-law's BRZ. And I prefer my ability to maintain/beat...

Not sure this analysis is true. Based on this TireRack test of the V105, it gets about the same mpg as the Michelin PSS, which was the successor to the PS4, and they have the same treadwear rating (which is usually useless, but in this case you're comparing a Michelin product to a Michelin...

Where do you buy your super blue? I've mostly been buying Typ 200 for the past several years. In maybe 2015 a mechanic told me that any color for brake fluid besides gold was illegal and super blue was mostly pulled from the market, but I haven't actually tried to buy the blue stuff. Those...

I think "non-homologated" in this context is being used to refer to a tire that does not come as an OE fitment. tirerack.com has many, many instrumented tests with data on tires. The relationship from the tirerack tests won't be exactly 1:1 to any other specific car, but they are good for...

I'm quite worried about this, actually. Tons of human/machine interaction literature showing this. A typical response would be "drivers are already distracted, so these systems will prevent more accidents than they cause." Which may turn out to be true, but there are implications for...

Yeah definitely, could be very valuable. This is a cool report. I'd love to see the crosstab data between Table 8 and Table 9a in that dataset. Whatever % of the two accident modes you've identified (edge of road and edge of lane departure) were due to inattention or inadequate surveilance...

Ah that's cool. Are they hypercar guys in their own group actually faster than the other groups? I usually run with NCRC and Lotus Club and occasionally with HOD, and most of the supercar drivers I see have been pretty slow. But I've heard there are some good drivers that do HPDE with...