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    Closed Track/Speedway

    Hi - I am on the edge about getting the P85D. I was wondering if there were any closed tracks in the Seattle area where Tesla owners have been to really give their model S a run for it's money?
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    Newbie Options Trading

    Hi - I think I understand the point now. This was the missing piece in my head for me: "Selling the shares later is just selling the shares. What people have already recommended is to just sell the call, which will give you the same result as exercising and then selling without requiring that...
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    Newbie Options Trading

    Hi Thank you for your response. That's not what I meant. I want to simply exercise an option. Since exercising an option involving buying at strike and (if desired) selling at market price, I want to know if I need cash to execute the first half of the transaction or if the brokerage will allow...
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    Newbie Options Trading

    Thank you. one more follow up - If I all I want to do is exercise an option and then sell at market price, do I need to have the full cash value of the strike price * number of shares on hand? or I can simultaneously buy at strike and sell at market without having to front the cash?
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    Elon "About to end range anxiety"

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>New Software Update: Trip Planner &amp; Range Assurance expand Model S intelligence to give drivers peace of mind and eliminate range anxiety.</p>&mdash; Tesla Motors (@TeslaMotors) <a...
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    Newbie Options Trading

    Hi - I'm new to options trading and would appreciate some help. I'm thinking of buying call options expiring about 2 years from now on TSLA. I'm curious to know what happens to call options if TSLA is acquired in that period? I've been a long term shareholder (since the days of $25/share and...
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    Apple: Rumors of EV to Challenge Tesla or Buying Tesla

    As a general rule when you see articles that say company A should acquire company B, ask yourself what company A will get uniquely through acquisition that it will not get through a partnership or some other lighter weight arrangement. Why would Apple choose to build an electric car? What...
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    Long-Term Fundamentals of Tesla Motors (TSLA)

    Does anyone have any data on how well Tesla's manufacturing ramp is going for both the S and the X? In the medium term it's really their ability to ramp production that's going to matter since they are so demand constrained.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Cars should be thought about as a computer hardware peripheral going forward. Like a network mounted disk drive, mouse or keyboard. The things that Google wants to do with cars goes far beyond just getting Android into the in-car systems. It involves automation of all transport and being the...
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    Tesla Motors Stockholder Meeting - Tuesday, June 4

    It's funny. Wouldn't this law preventing direct sales be the most blatant violation of the commerce clause? It clearly acts as an impediment to interstate commerce which is unconstitutional. The commerce clause has been used to defend far weaker arguments. Why doesn't Tesla just go direct to the...
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    Tesla Motors Stockholder Meeting - Tuesday, June 4

    Was is it just me that was completely and totally moved by Elon's presentation today? There is something so genuine and honest about the guy. I could feel the pain in his voice as he talked about NADA crowing over their victory as a perversion of democracy. He is an idealist through and through...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    I just want to say I absolutely LOVE people who short Tesla. I encourage everyone to do it as it facilitates an enormous wealth transfer to me. You might as well just wire me the money. Shorters do two things: 1 - By triggering selling activity they lower the price now so that I can pick up...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Agree. $80 - $130. That's the range I expect it to trade in. Both extremes would require some unexpected event.In reality I expect the stock to float around $90 - $95.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Pseudoscientific. Snake Oil Science. +1. A computer can generate horoscopes too. Doesn't make it scientific.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    This. When it does I'm doubling down.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    These complex explanations for a rather obvious problem are quite amusing. This time last tuesday TSLA traded as low as ~ $84. This morning it was at $114. No news. No announcements. It's just noise folks. This is a highly volatile stock so noise is louder at the peaks. Buying at these prices...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Warning: Stock Charting == Pseudoscience == Snake Oil Salesmanship :tongue:
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Something is really wrong. I am very bullish and my own models predict a fundamental basis for TSLA to trade between $80 - $130. This is over the entire year though. This current run up in price has me astonished. I am not convinced it is sustainable. All I can say is that new investors at this...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    This. I'm waiting for Tuesday. I expect a nice buying opportunity right before the supercharger announcement :)
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    I have some limit buy orders as well. There are some really positive things about the stock now: 1 - The squeeze is over and the stock didn't fall back to a some lower level. This is now the trading range for the stock. I think Elon Musk and George Soros would have a lot in common - they both...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    There is so much unexpected movement in the stock I have no idea what to make of it.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Press Release is out. Elon announces loan is repaid in full. Tesla Repays Department of Energy Loan Nine Years Early | Press Releases | Tesla Motors
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Supercharger density and minimum viable range for a gen3 car battery that consumers will accept are inversely proportional. We can ship v1 of Gen3 vehicle with the model 40 kWH battery pack. 120 - 150 mile range with high supercharger density. It is sufficient for a viable product. Tesla's...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Folks should not lose sight of the big picture. There is a clear fundamental case for TSLA stock to be valued at $80 - $130 with current known future cashflows. This is your outer bound trading range. This year is going to be epic for Tesla with all the cash they just made. I am certain that...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    The real unknown here is the mystery announcement. If the demonstration is quite radicle we could see more upward movement. Either way I think a downward swing would be a great buying opportunity.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    lol. You are new here right? :)
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    Analyst Reports/Targets

    Congratulations BoA. You have once again found yourselves with your heads up your asses. Idiots.
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    Tesla Motors Announces Offerings of Common Stock and Convertible Senior Notes

    No one predict with certainty what the share price will do. The reason there isn't any dilution is because Elon has used covered calls as an instruments to raise cash now. There will dilution when the call holders begin to exercise but that will several years out. The key take away is that he...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    OK I'm going to bed. When I wake up I hope I see what I want to see. Place your bets gents. For me - Its Alea Iacta Est.
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    Tsunami update (of hurt)

    I think DonPedro should patent the phrase "Tsunamometer". lol. I ROFLMAO everytime I see that.
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    Rumor: Apple buying Tesla

    Agree. Especially AAPL who would use their stash for something useful instead of a handout to mutual funds.
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    Rumor: Apple buying Tesla

    This will never happen. Daimler has right of first refusal. Also - Elon will never report to anyone. He is an exceptional leader in his own right and peer to Jeff Bezos ,Steve Jobs and Larry and Sergei. IMHO he outclasses them. Makes Steve Jobs look like a calm well balanced family man with no...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    It is not a gut feeling. The data points available to us has changed. TSLA has wiped a major liability off their books and added to their cash position. This changes your fundamental analysis and discounted cashflow results. PS: in the end everything is directional here. I think this piece of...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    I generally agree with CO. This recent news changes everything. We will never see TSLA go below $80 again. I'm going to put myself out there and make a prediction - we will see $130 this year.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    We would need to sustained trading at the $80 range before a base of buyers is established at that level. If that doesn't happen and the price rise is entirely due to short covering we could see significant downside. At this point, I'm just advocating a wait and see strategy. If you have stock...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Given the volumes we are seeing and the price action today we can safely conclude the first phase of the Tsunami is over. The first line of shorts has been cleared. Now it's time for the price to settle down a little so that i know there is real demand from retail investors at ~$80 and not just...
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    Analyst Reports/Targets

    lol - this pricey MS analyst came to same the conclusion I did on a piece of paper only a year late. Why do these clowns get paid? TSLA's fundamental case is childishly simple to calculate. It was always the engineering and manufacturing uncertainty of building the right car that people had to...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    it is a fools errand to try and predict the peak. You did the right thing. Think about all the people that thought it would go to a 100, waited and now its at 81.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    I don't think this is a regular downturn. The squeeze is ending. We are past the peak. i expect more volatility until the price stabilizes around $70 - $80 range. I say this because over $90 MM shares have traded hands since the earnings call. The party is over folks. The music has stopped. THe...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Not sure if anyone cares but folks should be REALLY cautious about entering into new positions of TSLA (short or long or anything else :) ) right now. If you have a stock position, hold your position with a stop loss limit on a price you can be at peace with. If you don't have a position don't...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Chart reading is like believing in horoscopes to me. People see patterns where they want. Everything has a trend until it doesn't. Snake oil science. No offense intended to anyone. With that said - there may very well be a continued bull run.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    there is no way to predict the top and I didn't want to lose my gains trying to. I was really concerned at the 70MM+ shares that traded hands. To me that says that most people have exited their short positions or mostly have. I would expect at the most another 12% or so upside. Maybe. There is...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    I exited the party today at $84. I made an obscene profit as my average price was $36. Enough to buy several model S :) I looked at the volume and realized I'd rather leave a little too early than a little too late. The rise is happening fairly gradually but the drop could happen very quickly as...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    This is really key. Trying to predict the peak is the real problem. If you sell to early you leave money on the table. If you sell too late you might lose a high price and it might take 1+ year to get back to that same price not to mention the profits you could take to buy back more shares once...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    By end of trading today we would have traded nearly 70MM shares of TSLA since the earnings report. I suspect this is the peak. No way to know for sure. But I would be surprised if tomorrow is another 10%+ opening day.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    I think Elon's hunch was right. I am certain there was naked short selling going on. I wouldnt be surprised if this squeeze ends with a federal investigation of short sellers of Tesla.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    I guess we know which way the wind blows. Lots of shorts willing to fund my retirement looks like :)
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    I think Monday's trading will tell us a lot about where the stock is headed. I was surprised that with such a high volume the stock hit only $81. I expected it to reach $100+. However to your point Don, there are a lot of moving parts here and it's very difficult to split out what's driving the...
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    Tsunami update (of hurt)

    If as Elon suspects there are naked short sellers there, its possible we haven't seen anything close to the end of this price run. It could go "ballistic" :D