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    Inaccurate Navigation

    Maps are Google but the actual routing is not. It's a vendored and tweaked product to my understanding. The nav routing is definitely not good in comparison to any other common offering, but a service center won't be able to do anything to "fix" it.
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    How much energy to preheat battery and car from 20F?

    Sorry, my bad for not explaining more. I'm not saying there's a driving scenario in which it'll pull 3.5kW, but there's plenty of ways it can use less than 2kW. That will also depend on driving conditions, especially city driving vs. highway. I'm just saying a flat 2kW burn is only one of many...
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    How much energy to preheat battery and car from 20F?

    I'll be able to get you an answer this week probably! This'll be an expensive experiment. For those temperatures, the cabin is comfortable enough in 5 minutes, toasty in 10. But for the battery, my early guess is it would take over an hour, but there are variables. I'll expand. First, AWD vs...
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    Using 85%+ range per day, best charge strategy?

    #3 is the obvious recommendation from the outside, especially if convenient. This problem is only going to get worse as the battery approaches 10-15% capacity loss, so better to build the preventative habits now so you don't get stranded. You may need to start charging to 95% in the colder...
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    I wish the Model 3 had the new Model S steering wheel

    Near the phone charging cradle, where a passenger might accidentally hit the button when placing/removing a phone...
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    1st Electricity Bill since purchasing the tesla.

    Your post made me think of it, I just realised Tesla is also partly responsible for the rhetoric on the car being "more efficient" when warm. It's in their marketing materials currently for sure (they advocate to precondition for a more efficient drive... technically true and incredibly...
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    Humming Noise Parked and Fully Charged

    If it's a pretty quiet hum, it's probably just the coolant pumps. Basically, these run whenever the car is awake (as basically anything needing cooling, including the main computers, are liquid cooled). Your car can be awake for a very long list of reasons. For example, you noted the interior...
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    I wish the Model 3 had the new Model S steering wheel

    I should probably add: Yeah, maybe they're just doing this to drum up discussion. But at least for me, that has backfired. I trust Tesla less than ever before on making a car designed for humans, and in my mind they have made things very clear. I am not their intended customer, and they want me...
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    I wish the Model 3 had the new Model S steering wheel

    No, I never want this in Model 3. Less because of the wheel, more because of the lack of stalks and replacement with touch buttons. Model 3 pushed the limits of what was acceptable to remove for basic physical driver controls. The touchscreen wiper controls are objectively not a good idea, but...
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    Cost to charge up?

    Car standby and battery heating are absolutely not peanuts in the grand scheme, especially for short commuters. But that's why I needed to know if OP lives somewhere cold-ish and such. Having a short commute while living someplace with a "cold" winter can easily double energy usage compared to...
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    1st Electricity Bill since purchasing the tesla.

    It's not the new octovalve's fault actually. It's the thermal mass of that 1000lb battery - it takes a LOT of energy just to raise it a few degrees. You usually need it at/above 20C (68F) for close to full regen. The new heat pump system in the Model Y or the 2021 Model 3s doesn't really help do...
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    1st Electricity Bill since purchasing the tesla.

    This. But... I think a lot of people get misled into thinking it costs nearly nothing to charge an EV compared to gas. That rhetoric runs wild on these forums too, which is weird since residents of the US are the primary forum members here and they have really cheap gas but I digress. @kadify...
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    Car kicks up dust and dirt on rear: Any solutions?

    I somewhat admire you folks who feel the need to wipe down their car after every drive. In SoCal, where I presume there's hardly any dirt on the road to begin with! And here I thought I was treating ours nice when I gave it weekly washes! You may find it beneficial to listen to those folks who...
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    Cost to charge up?

    @MarsOrBust in addition to the above link I'm happy to do and explain the math for you given the following details: Average summer high/low temps Average winter high/low temps Whether your car will be parked outside or not If parked inside, a sense of how insulated it is Details of your...
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    Does Lifetime Wh/Mi matter?

    It matters sort of like lifetime MPG or L/100km would, but in very different ways to the point that it would be misleading to make any statement from the number. A high Wh/mi Model 3 could indicate that the owner tends to not precondition the cabin. Since the meters (including the "Lifetime"...
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    Model 3 caught fire in china garage [after hitting a manhole cover]

    Interestingly, following the source to the Chinese website does show the original source as saying "The poster claimed that a Tesla Model 3 caught fire in an underground garage in the lush garden community in Minhang District, Shanghai, and there was an explosion". It's entirely possible there...
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    120V Charging Battery Temperature Target

    Nuances indeed! Turns out cars are complicated. When my wife had a 120km (75mi) daily commute, the standard 120V NEMA 5-15 was actually (barely) enough for us in summer. We got a NEMA 14-50 setup before our first winter so I don't have this experience first-hand, but there is no way we would've...
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    [request] Show the date & times of the last 10 charges on the center display

    It does not, however some services can give rough visibility into that with "charging efficiency". As always though, the data they have access to is limited in resolution and shouldn't be very depended upon without understanding the limitations.
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    120V Charging Battery Temperature Target

    I really gotta finish my Tesla guide to the cold. You might see a lot of people that plug in in at 10F and it starts charging right away, yes. That's because their battery was warm enough, probably from their drive - outside temperature and battery temperature can be very different things. Take...
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    Speed Sign Recognition in BC

    I don't notice many issues in town. On routes between towns though... it does the strangest things. When they introduced the feature, it started thinking one 90km/h road was 15km/h at a certain point. It reads signs it "shouldn't" a lot, like on parallel frontage roads that are often slower...
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    Motor "vibration" at very low speeds - current going around stator?

    In reverse, the rear motor really isn't doing anything normally (for AWD models). It's just in the "coast" or "active torque sleep" mode, if I may borrow a term from @Saabstory88. If the front wheels slip, they'll bang it off and bang on the rear motor. My driveway has this little dip that...
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    Motor "vibration" at very low speeds - current going around stator?

    You're on the right track, you're feeling the variable torque basically. Unlike an ICE vehicle that has a lot of rotational momentum to smooth out natural torque spikes (among other things like torque converters which smooth it even more), we feel the torque a lot more directly. If you had...
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    Tesla homelink

    True, which I did at first. It was too distracting to need to hit that though, there's a lot of kids on my street and I didn't like having to look way over on the screen.
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    Unexpected range loss in extreme cold

    Waste heat from driving with a headwind will result in keeping about a 20C-25C delta on temperatures. That is, while driving in -20C, I would actually expect the waste heat to only float you around 0C-5C anyways (but it sounds like you started with a battery much warmer than that). At low SoC...
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    14 Hours to cross 800Km with SR+...[complaint about range in winter]

    80mph interstates also exist (129km/h), my main point was in regard to the 150km/h-160km/h suggestion
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    120V vs 240V for Battery Health?

    240V. With 120V, fixed losses during the charging process make 120V charging very inefficient. Not only does everything (pumps, on board charger) need to run for longer because the charging is slower, but extra longer because it's very inefficient in comparison. This costs you more money in...
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    [request] Show the date & times of the last 10 charges on the center display

    I think it would be hard to present that data in a way that makes the phantom drain (standby) portion obvious and in contrast with locomotive needs (which show up on the trip meters). In fact you sort of have access to this data for the last charge, but it requires looking in two different...
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    kWh question

    This is a situation where a wiki makes a lot more sense. Does this forum have any sort of collaborative post feature?
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    200 mile SR+ dead.. BMS_a059 VCFRONT_a192 HVP_w028 BMS_a158

    That's not just a single MOSFET on the part description. Tesla does not (nor does any other modern car company) do component-level repair on the customer-facing side. Let's break it down. "ASY,M3,REAR,MOSFET-LC,GLOBAL" ASY: Assembly. As in, whole assembled unit. In this case, a drive unit...
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    14 Hours to cross 800Km with SR+...[complaint about range in winter]

    The error is using only amps as both a power and energy measure. Energy (kWh) : A quantity, e.g. like gallons of gasoline. Power (kW): A rate of energy usage. Much like horsepower. You get power by multiplying voltage and amperage. With power, you multiply the average power by time to get...
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    200 mile SR+ dead.. BMS_a059 VCFRONT_a192 HVP_w028 BMS_a158

    OP's SR+ does not have a front motor
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    Slip Start - SR+ in snow

    This is likely an artifact of the Hold stop mode issues. At low speeds the car doesn't seem to properly understand what's going on, which is understandable. It can do weird things like reverse up a gentle hill, while in drive. By itself. There's a few accounts of this on this forum, and it...
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    vehicle may not restart BMS_a088

    It's a weird one, likely a faulty VC (VCFront or VCRight?) if I were to bet. They're cheap-ish and easy-ish to replace. Someone needs to actually check out your car in detail to figure out what's up though. BMS does mean Battery Management System, but is absolutely referencing the high voltage...
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    14 Hours to cross 800Km with SR+...[complaint about range in winter]

    Sure, but one of OP's main complaints was needing to use third-party 50kW stations, which definitely changes the math on that. Such high speeds are also only optimal in a VERY ideal scenario with chargers that happen to be in the right spots at the right time for that power consumption. The...
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    kWh question

    I'm not sure which part you looked at to get 27kWh, can you clarify? That changes the response a little bit, but not much. The trip meters will show all usage while the car is in Drive, including any climate control usage. Any energy used while parked (including cabin preconditioning, Sentry...
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    Vancouverite M3 Insurance Rates!?

    First time around in 2019, the difference between ICBC and BCAA was pretty negligible. At renewal though, it went way up. I guess ICBC realised they're expensive to fix or something, but the price to insure my other car skyrocketed as well. Switched optionals to BCAA, much cheaper. Note...
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    200 mile SR+ dead.. BMS_a059 VCFRONT_a192 HVP_w028 BMS_a158

    Interesting that both yours and the Car & Driver one failed like this during winter. Failures while parked are weird, but the car could've been using the rear motor as a heater (to heat the battery) since it's winter. I wonder if this is part of what led to the failure. Anyways, hope it works...
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    Apple products service model compared to Tesla

    Yes, Tesla is having a bad time getting service to grow along with sales. But Apple as an example of great customer service? Please, I never want to suggest a car gets treated like an Apple device. Broken tire pressure sensor hmmmm gotta replace the whole car. A rodent chewed a cable hmmmmm...
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    Youtube Tesla Review

    Maybe they picked it because LTT is an enormously popular YouTube channel with a broad audience, unlike most Tesla review videos. OP states their location as the USA. LTT is in Canada. OP could be a location-lying employee, or just one of their millions of viewers thought to post it here.
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    Question on TeslaCam - Making copies

    Nothing in the car to do this, no. It's possible they can connect and copy it to their phone perhaps. Or they just happen to have an extra USB stick in the car that can also connect to their phone to copy stuff (I'm in this bucket, but not for this reason... I just forget it was in there). Or...
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    Youtube Tesla Review

    I mean... honestly none of his points were really invalid, and many were positive. Many of us here would agree with them. Of the "negative"/honest points, Like the customer experience issues? Yeah. We pretty much all went through that. Only 15-20 minutes of face time with a Tesla rep to walk...
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    14 Hours to cross 800Km with SR+...[complaint about range in winter]

    I haven't watched anywhere near all of Bjorn's videos on the subject. The one I recall was not below freezing, but was near it in the morning. If you could link to a specific example, that would be greatly helpful. But don't confuse "pre-warming circuits" with more efficiency. Yes, it'll be...
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    Where to request or suggest features or superchargers?

    For Superchargers, it usually the city or town and/or business site that engages with Tesla. I'm not exactly sure how they go about that, but for ones that actually end up installed that I've seen, they're working with the city. For other feature requests, basically can just forget about it. If...
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    Tesla 2021 SR+ Won't drive (BMS_a151 BMS_a192 BMS_a035)

    These appear to be isolation faults, but I'm not sure of which kind exactly. Something of some voltage (maybe high voltage) is touching something it shouldn't, or insulation has been damaged or chewed (rodents can do this). You'll definitely need the Service Center to evaluate what has...
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    240v charger instantly unlocking & won't work

    I'm confused. Does it beep or show an error on the screen at all explaining what's wrong? It normally communicates any problems very well. But it's green so should be good? Since it's green, yes do check scheduled charging settings (pull up the charging screen) after plugging it in. They also...
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    Precondition car plugged in vs not plugged in

    You're making a very strong claim Tesla has never made when all the evidence points to it being for comfort/feel reasons, especially since this was a frequent feature request (the cars did not originally do this! They added this at the end of winter last year IIRC). Using Wiki articles or other...
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    Precondition car plugged in vs not plugged in

    If it's the thread I think you're talking about, here's the explanation: confounding factors. Most of us aren't running good science here, myself included. In that thread specifically, OP did two huge things along with changing the discharge behaviour: Stopped using Sentry mode all the time...
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    14 Hours to cross 800Km with SR+...[complaint about range in winter]

    Alright, I'll try to address these point by point. I have a lot of winter frustrations too. Consumption of 210Wh/km: You were going 130km/h. This was more about the speed than the cold. I can get decent Wh/km at maybe 110km/h, but any faster than that and it really starts to hurt efficiency...
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    Precondition car plugged in vs not plugged in

    I just realised a big detail I left out in my last post, which was more important than I thought now that I've done the math! The car can draw more power than is available from the wall even when connected/"charging" for preconditioning. It's a common myth that the car will limit its power draw...