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I’ve only put 1,000 miles on the car so far, but can say that the MSM shows less dirt than the white (the white to me was pretty bad with bugs showing on the flat nose). I think the MSM looks nicer overall between washes and then just pops hard post-wash. Oh and one thing I will say too is that...

I had a black Model S, white 2020 Model 3, and now MSM 2021 Model 3. I originally wanted go white for the 2021 Model 3 as well, but my wife convinced me to go MSM for a change-up and I absolutely love it. The MSM finish has way more character than the white, especially in the sun, and looks...

I forgot about this thread - I ended up taking delivery of my M3P two weeks ago. Zero regrets on the decision to switch my order from the LR to the P. I have already scrapped my plans to sell the 20" rims ha - just like the look of the car too much with them on (have the MSM exterior and love...

Hi all - to add to this thread; I ordered a MSM/White LR AWD on September 6th and then changed my order to a MSM/White Performance on September 14th. After ordering the LR AWD, my delivery window was October 12th - November 12th. Upon changing my order to the Performance, the delivery window...

I am actually in a similar boat. I had a 2020 SR+ that I was able to sell for more than I paid for it new (as a Tesla demo) a year and 24k miles ago. I did the same initial math as you and had initially ordered a LR AWD (at current pricing) as a replacement with the plan to immediately add the...

I still question whether or not the FSD capable used cars have HW3 or not. I can see Tesla tacking on no-cost software upgrades on used cars to command higher dollars, but I cant see them putting HW3 into all used FSD cars. I wonder if they will allow you to get HW3 at no cost if FSD is enabled...

Ahh - that is a very good deal on the Tesla site. Definitely makes more sense to go that route especially with the boost guaranteed. Great price. Here is the referenced spec in the event the listing goes down:

Oh totally agree - they have a bunch of LR RWD cars labeled as AWD in their system. For this particular car, I am going by the below picture regarding FSD: Which matches/goes with the below picture containing the vehicle VIN:

All - I was perusing local Model 3 listings on Carvana and came across a 2019 LR AWD with 21k miles and FSD (with HW3/stoplight control) selling for $44,990 (white with black interior and 18" rims). Clean car, clean title. From what I've seen, it does not appear as though Carvana/Vroom know how...

I have a Yeti Tundra 45 and it fits in the rear trunk sub-floor. It just sticks out about 2 inches too high for the sub floor cover to go over it. I can upload a picture if folks are interested in seeing how it fits.

Potentially interested. Any particular reason(s) for selling?

I can offer some feedback here. I went from a 2014 Model S with the High Fidelity sound system to a SR+ and find the SR+ to have noticeably better, and richer, audio quality. I too was worried about audio quality of the SR+ pre-delivery and found it to be excellent (at least from the driver's...

Had this happen on a trade. This is on Tesla, not Genesis in this case. In my case, Tesla had showed record that they initiated the trade payoff via ACH transfer shortly after trade-in, but the bank had no record of payment ever being made. I had to prod the Tesla a few times on the matter and...

Yesterday I was driving with basic autopilot enabled and came up on a red light at decent speed (~40 MPH) and a large red stoplight icon flashed on my screen where the speed limit sign is usually displayed and a warning chime went off. I found this interesting as my car does not have FSD enabled...

Nice looking rims, GLWS! I am planning to powder coat my sport rims black as well and was thinking of going satin black too (vs gloss). While I am not a buyer here, I'd really appreciate some additional pics of these rims on the white M3 (same color as mine). Thanks!

I purchase a car out of state from Westmont/Chicago and also had my IL-issued temporary tag expire well in advance of receipt of my plates (apparently Westmont/Chicago did not send the correct forms to my local DMV, so that took some time to remedy). I ended up having to call Westmont/Chicago a...

I recently traded in my 2014 Model S for a Model 3 (last week). Here are the quotes I received from various parties. KBB was around $34k I think. I ended up going with Tesla - very easy process - they didn't give the trade any attention/inspection. 2014 Pre-AP Model S85 - 48,250 miles - Pano...

Thank you all again for the help and advice here! To close the loop, I took delivery of my 2020 Model 3 SR+ earlier this week. A Tesla delivery employee/rep drove the car to my home and took my traded-in Model S back to the service center. The home delivery process took about 5 minutes and went...

I would be curious to know what types of deals folks have been able to find/obtain for recently ordered/delivered 2020 MY SR+ cars. It would be helpful to know what discounts have been netted and how those discounts have been found (on the Tesla inventory site, over-the-phone discussions with...

Even if your insurance company is not offering a discount or payment waiver, it would make sense to change the primary use of your vehicles to "pleasure" and significantly reduce your expected annual mileage (assuming you are now working from home/not commuting). Doing so should reduce your...

Ahh no worries. I did just end up finalizing the purchase and accepting the deal just now. For reference, here are the quotes I got from other companies for my Tesla (as I mentioned earlier, some companies provided these numbers in support of a trade-in only as many are not buying cars...

Most online retailers (Carvana, Vroom, etc) are no longer buying cars unless they are being traded in for a purchase of a car from their inventory. To Salted's point, used car trade-in values have and will continue to drop sharply, which is part of the reason I am trying to make a move sooner...

Any feedback on the deal itself? Is ~$3,000 price adjustment par for the course for inventory cars or can that discount be even larger?

mddmx and alexucf - thank you both for your thoughts/replies. Definitely reassuring to hear from legacy early run S85 owners that have made the same switch!

Hello M3 crew! I wanted to gather your thoughts and get a sanity check on my planned purchase of a 2020 M3 SR+ inventory car and trade-in of a 2014 MS85 without AP (late September 2014 build - one week prior to AP1 roll out). I am a big fan of the interior layout of the MS and the overall...

Congratulations on the new ride!! While I can't comment on your local installation costs (my wall charger installed in Charlotte, NC was about $700), I can recommend that you check with your electric utility for EV charger rebates. Most electric utilities offer at least a $500 rebate on an...

I highly recommend this Meguiar's kit for these types of scratch/scuff repairs: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WVL7YSG/ Here is the before and after of a Model 3 that this kit was used on to repair/remedy a fairly substantial scuff (not my car):

Thank you for the additional data/reference point!

That's what I thought! Thank you for sharing your experience. The delivery person that just called me said it is not collected, so that makes two people from Tesla that say it is, and two people from Tesla that say it isn't. I guess I'll see when I pick the car up on Friday (still haven't...

As the thread title states - does the $1200 dest/doc fee get applied when buying a used Tesla direct from Tesla? Within one of my offer sheets the number is not listed, and in another the salesperson says it will be applied.

Man, I must say that the purchasing experience is clunky at best. If you showed me the back/forth correspondence with folks and hid the company name, I would assume the messages were coming from a 'buy here, pay here' used car dealer. The pre-delivery pictures that are shared are super grainy...

Awesome, thank you and BEEZR for the feedback! The other car only had the tech package and no other options, although it did have the LTE update (not sure if this car does). This car does seem to be much better appointed.

The feedback here has been super helpful, thank you all! I ended up ordering (putting $2500 down) on the 2014 MS 85 that I described earlier on the Tesla pre-owned site. Here are the details: Build Date: 09/2014 (no autopilot) Miles: 32k Black Exterior with 19" cyclone wheels Performance...

I must have been checking that EV CPO site at the wrong times - I haven't seen cars drop below $40k when checking, although I just checked this morning and there were two 2014 MS 85's available and one 2013 P85 within my price range. One of the 2014 MS 85's had autopilot, air suspension, and...

Got it, unfortunately it is a 1-owner car that is being sold by a dealer. Given that it has LTE data, work has obviously been done to the car - it is unfortunate that Tesla will not provide vin-based reports even if you are a verified owner. But I think your points underscore the reason why a...

demundus - thank you for cataloging common issues. I haven't noticed any of the aforementioned issues in my time with the car - would it be possible to check pre-purchase to see if these might be an issue with this particular car? From my understanding, the only issue that could be covered...

Also, I like the included/conveyed supercharging that comes with this particular car - there is a supercharging station 15 minutes from me.

Thank you all for your input so far! I do appreciate the larger space the Model S affords, particularly with the oversized frunk. Between my wife and I, and our baby, we have a fair amount to haul around every now and again. I also like that the MS has a separate dash/screen over the wheel/two...

Mostly due to price. I am aiming to stay in the low to mid $30k range for this particular vehicle. I believe the Model 3 would put me a decent amount higher OTD, right? I forgot to mention, the car also has the updated LTE cellular connectivity.

Hello! I am new to this forum and new to Teslas/EVs in-general. I have been looking around for 2014-2016 Model S cars (these seem to be the only models within my comfortable price range) and recently came across a car that seems to be a pretty good deal that is located at a reputable dealer just...