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You are very intense. Could you send me your the raw data so I could check your math? If you are seeing the cabin heater jumping up to 646.2W then I'm sure your average will be higher than 68.89W. Today's test for me was a setpoint of 69F and outside temp at 72F. It appears Tesla made some...

Interesting. Maybe they finally have made some fixes recently, any chance you have the ear of a Tesla HVAC engineer and they pushed a hidden update from the mothership? If the car has been baking in the sun for a while it can take a while to reach steady state and the issue to show up. If the...

Glad that you have agreed there is a problem. I never said the sky was falling, I said the bug sucks which I suppose could be considered rude to some. Forgive me for offending you. Sure will make a clearer video proving the edge case of my claim the next time it's 85F outside with a 70F...

Ok, gotta make sure we dont go off the rails with much rarer use cases like when it's 105F+ outside. How about this? "For the normal use case of wanting the cool the car when it's hot outside (71-85F) and you only want to cool the car to a comfortable human temperature at say 70F the PTC cabin...

Glad to be in agreement that in common use cases the cabin heater is eventually unnecessarily used, dare I say "constantly" used. Would you agree to this statement? For the normal use case of wanting the cool the car when it's hot outside and you only want to cool the car to a comfortable human...

I stated the outside temp is above the temp setpoint in the test setup. If it's at all warmer outside than inside the car then heating the car with the PTC cabin heater does not make sense. Make the outside temp 80F and your temp setpoint 72F and you will see the same behavior. I've gone down...

When you turn your dimmable LED lights on and dim it down a bit humans see the light as being constantly on but if you slow the time down you will see periods where the LED is completely turned off. These periods where the LED is off and ON is averaged out by the human brain which is what we...

I agree the test scenarios were not clearly presented like the manual vs auto HVAC mode tests and dropping the temp to verify the current sensor also would read 0. When changing the temp on the car there is a ramp rate where the cabin heater will try to stay off but as a steady state temp forms...

My Tesla service center verified the cabin heater gets used all the time when only cooling is desired in 2019 and said they expect it to be fixed in software. 3 years later and the the bug still exists. You can use a DC current clamp sensor on the PTC cabin heater power line or use the OBD/CAN...

My Tesla service center verified the cabin heater gets used all the time when only cooling is desired in 2019 and said they expect it to be fixed in software. 3 years later and the the bug still exists. You can use a DC current clamp sensor on the PTC cabin heater power line or use the OBD/CAN...

This is a software feature request for all tesla models but is especially relevant to model years before 2022 that don't have heat pumps. Many of these cars are still under factory warranty and share the same HVAC hardware as models out of warranty. Why in the heck wouldn't you push a simple...

Many Tesla's do not have a heat pump and instead have a PTC cabin heater that gets constantly used when you only want to cool the car. I don't want to send 300-1000 constant wasted watts to my cabin heater in my battery powered car when I only want to cool the car. This has been a 4+ year issue...

My M3 always reads and uses the truck speed limit signs which is usually 10mph slower than the car speed limit so my car will wrongly drop it's max by ~10mph and slam on the regen. Broken logic on speed limit sign reading.

Totally batshit crazy that Tesla does not have android auto as a factory app. Australia does not ban android auto.

My top V12 desired "fixes" are: 1) Drive WAY more chill especially while FSD is in beta and chill mode is selected. Limit lane changes should be the default for instance. FSD should not be programmed to have the Dunning Kruger syndrome 2) Start to decelerate WAY earlier for stopping/slowing...

The app says it's 250kw V3 chargers. More than 6 would have been nice but 6 is way better than 0.

You can select this but I don't think FSD really cars as my car will continue making unnecessary and bad lane change, especially on the freeway where it always tries to get in the carpool lane when I don't want to be in the carpool lane. The only way to truly limit lane changes is to turn off...

Yes I have been seeing this happen like once every 10 minutes or so, sometimes a couple times in a minute. I reported to the dev with a video example on slack. I've disable most every power savings setting but maybe there is some other thing I'm missing or something else has changed in my...

I rarely/never use basic cruise control and suspect most do not as well. Sometimes the car misses my 2nd click on the stalk and I'm not in autopilot like I thought I was which sucks. I think there should be a setting to make autopilot be enabled with the first stalk press and maybe then bring...

Looks pretty good, can you send the links to all of what you got here? Thanks.

Cabin heater still coming on in the evening with it being 74F outside 71 inside with 71 degree setpoint in version 2023.27.6. During the day with it 80F outside and a setpoint of 71 the cabin heater stayed off at least. So the closer the outdoor temp is to your setpoint the more likely the cabin...

Wow, I can't imagine how that could be considered normal. Looks like a motor mount broke off or has some extremely loose screws. Please let us know what happens at service center.

I stopped trying to work on that as disabling the CAN bus to the heater did not stop the AC from continuing to cool the car below my temp setpoint so I just set the temp to LO and use lower fan speeds to regulate the temp.

It may be bad temperature sensors and/or it's just the cabin being heated when cooling is only desired due to longstanding HVAC code issues across all models. Setting the temp to LO is the only way to disable the cabin heat and force the car to only cool the cabin, you have to use the fan speed...

Sucks that this is still a bug 3 years later. There is a chance it's a bad cabin temp or evaporator temp sensor, I've taken my car in multiple times with the everything in spec answer and an acknowledgement that there has been a long standing HVAC bug where the cabin heater is used when only...

Teslas HVAC code has had a massive bug for 3+ years for both resistive cabin heater models as well as newer heat pump model cars where the cabin heater tends to always be used when only cooling is desired on the order of 300-1000 constant watts in resistive cabin heater models. This is not at...

A good chance the car is actively heating and cooling the car at the same time. This happens in resistive and heat pump models due to a 3+ year bug in their HVAC code. The only way to disable the cabin heater is to set the temp to LO and adjust the cabin temp with the fan speed. Get the OBD...

Pretty sure a digital vent vs a manual air diverter would use the same amount of energy. Even adding a small still plastic sheet to angle the air further upwards is enough to get the air to hit my face. Also heating the cabin when cooling is only desired to the tune of 300-1000 constant wasted...

Any resolution on this? It may be the evaporator temp sensor or the driver or passenger HVAC sensors. It looks like they need to add some more details to this HVAC test routine but at least they have some sort of test the end user can run with an indication that something is not right.

In the model 3/y there is no fan only setting, does the X really have a fan only setting where you don't have to set the temp to LO and disable the AC button? I want to get cold when I have the AC and the temp inside/outside is hotter than my 1 temp setpoint. During this time I only send watts...

It sucks when the cabin heater is used when only cooling is desired. This is a 3 year plus bug across all Tesla models. The only way to disable the cabin heater is to set the temp to LO. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/tags/cabin-heater-coming-on-when-only-cooling-desired/

Yes please. This 3+ year HVAC bug where the cabin heater comes on when only cooling is desired is completely insane. It appears to affect both resistive cabin heaters and heat pump systems. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/tags/cabin-heater-coming-on-when-only-cooling-desired/

Looks like the heat pump system is using heat when only cooling is desired. You may have some bad temperature sensors but I suspect the underlying HVAC logic is also bad as it is with the cars with resistive cabin heaters for 3+ years...

Tesla has had issues with their temperature sensors and their HVAC code for years now. The cabin heater unfortunately often gets used when only cooling is desired. Seems like it happens for both the resistive and heat pump cabin heaters. They need to do a major rewrite on this HVAC logic and...

This is a 3 year plus bug for all Tesla models with resistive cabin heaters last I checked where the cabin heater is used when you only want cooling. There is a possibility your evaporator temperature sensor is not good but Im pretty sure it's still a software issue. It gets worse the closer...

This parking lot seems too small for superchargers and Im guessing many of the locals are anti EV and will be prone to ICE'ing these spots but this is much better than no superchargers.

Yep my resistive cabin heater is still cranking when I only want cooling AC which royally sucks. How in the world is this still an issue?? The small bright side is that I've noticed that the cabin heater has been not coming on as much during the midday hours here in the desert when I set the...

Anoyone have any luck getting these seat extenders? I'd like to ideally raise the front of my seat as well to angle my right leg above the center console monstrosity. Unfortunately raising the seat using the seat motor also pushes the driver towards the steering wheel and also rotated the seat...

Yep the 2023.7 branch broke the web browser mp4 video decoding which broke my android auto experience with teslAA which royally sucks.

Maybe the techno king just hates big bear and disregarded the first supercharger polls #1 globally requested supercharger site as human error? Let's remove driver wheels, stalks, radar, USS sensors, add more crappy games and fart modes instead of added things users want like this charger...

Yes. The first day I got 11.4.4 I thought it was the best fsd drive I've ever had and thought things made a big move in the right direction. The next day I was back to swearing at the car and disengaging like once every other minute for extremely late deceleration like I always usually have to...

These voice commands turn the AC button on and off now "Turn off AC" "Turn on AC" Now we just need the API commands that do this along with a dedicated heater off button and API commands. Having 2 temperature setpoints like a home thermostat being the best.

Looks like Tesla went from chromium 102 to 109 in the 2023.6.1 general release on March 3rd which matches the text in the fsd 11.4.2 notes for 2023.7.5. https://www.notateslaapp.com/software-updates/version/2023.6.1/release-notes...

I'm in the same boat, I'm wondering if Tesla doesn't want Teslaa running and maliciously is blocking its connection over the VPN somehow now? Maybe to get these few people to subscribe to their monthly live traffic service? It looks like the browser is trying to load the site and keeps...

I never took the time to make something but am still running with the mod. Maybe some thin flexible black plastic cutting board could be cut to size and slide in behind the other panel and use some kind of silicone glue that could be easily removed to keep it from moving? https://a.co/d/cTIpuRY...

A big bear supercharger is currently the #1 requested charger in the world. Please vote to keep it in the #1 spot. https://www.tesla.com/supercharger-voting I added 2 more specific location requests in big bear for the next voting cycle at these locations. Maybe if more people add these spots...

A big bear supercharger is currently the #1 requested charger in the world. Please vote to keep it in the #1 spot. https://www.tesla.com/supercharger-voting I added 2 more specific location requests in big bear for the next voting cycle at these locations. Maybe if more people add these spots...

A big bear supercharger is currently the #1 requested charger in the world. Please vote to keep it in the #1 spot. https://www.tesla.com/supercharger-voting I added 2 more specific location requests in big bear for the next voting cycle at these locations. Maybe if more people add these spots...

A big bear supercharger is currently the #1 requested charger in the world. Please vote to keep it in the #1 spot. https://www.tesla.com/supercharger-voting I added 2 more specific location requests in big bear for the next voting cycle at these locations. Maybe if more people add these spots...

Just posting this global leaderboard for reference. Hope Big Bear keeps the #1 spot.