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  1. Petrocelli

    How do people leasing cars deal with the wait

    The main difference between now and last time is that I have done a lot of research on a lot of cars. I may keep my gas vehicle when the lease ends (because the residual is extremely low given the increase in car prices). But if I get a new one, it will definitely be an EV. I have talked to 3...
  2. Petrocelli

    How do people leasing cars deal with the wait

    I bought the MBZ because I was worried about the build quality of the Model 3. Ironically, the MBZ that I bought instead of the Tesla has had more problems than any car I have ever owned. In less than 2 years, it has had the following problems: Driver's side window rolled down and stayed...
  3. Petrocelli

    How do people leasing cars deal with the wait

    Thanks. This is very helpful.
  4. Petrocelli

    How do people leasing cars deal with the wait

    I didn't buy a Tesla last time around because my MBZ salesman (who has leased me a Mercedes every 3 years or so since 1997) sold me a $53,000 car for around $44,000. He also said that by the time of my next lease, MBZ should have an EVs. I am now sold on getting an EV and am looking at Tesla...
  5. Petrocelli

    How do people leasing cars deal with the wait

    I am about a year out from the end of my Mercedes lease and am (once again) considering a Tesla Model 3. I understand that the wait for a Model 3 is now 1 to 3 months. If you have a leased car, with a lease that ends on a specific date, there could be a period of time where you have no car...
  6. Petrocelli

    Sold my Tesla yesterday - No Sellers Remorse Yet

    The EQS is a little out of my price range. ()Actually, a lot out of my price range.) MBZ has released the EQA in Europe, and a A250 PHEV. I will probably get one of those next time around. However, I will (again) consider Tesla -- mostly because of its supercharging network.
  7. Petrocelli

    Sold my Tesla yesterday - No Sellers Remorse Yet

    Interesting post. I almost got a Model 3 when I got my last Mercedes in 2019. When I told my Mercedes salesman (who has leased me a new Mercedes every 3 years since 1997) that I was thinking of getting a Tesla, he leased me a $50,000 Mercedes for less than a $40,000 Model 3. Like the OP, the...
  8. Petrocelli

    What percentage of Model 3s are "lemons"

    This is an excellent response. Thank you.
  9. Petrocelli

    What percentage of Model 3s are "lemons"

    Thanks for these numbers. Honestly, they kind of scare the hell out of me.
  10. Petrocelli

    What percentage of Model 3s are "lemons"

    I just realized I used the word "aggressive" improperly in my OP. I meant aggressive in pricing, not aggressive in behavior. The salesmen was very complementary of Teslas, and our "negotiation" took about 15 minutes.
  11. Petrocelli

    Red Y - Full Xpel Wrap - 1 piece wrap on the hatch!

    Agree. It does look great. What did it cost?
  12. Petrocelli

    What percentage of Model 3s are "lemons"

    Excellent memory. But it was Mercedes, not a BMW. Long story short, a little over a year ago, I was getting a new car. I have leased 8 Mercedes from the same guy. I was going to get a Tesla. But when I told this to my salesman, he got very aggressive and leased me a Mercedes C300 Coupe...
  13. Petrocelli

    What percentage of Model 3s are "lemons"

    I would really like to get a Model 3 for my next car. Reading these forums, I read some horror stories about problems --- small and large -- with build quality and service. However, all these anecdotes can certainly be misleading because no one ever starts a thread: "Just checking in. No...
  14. Petrocelli

    Raining inside my 2-week-old Model Y

    I am always bewildered why anyone would put up with this.
  15. Petrocelli

    Is Tesla service deteriorating as they scale??

    I read a lot of different forums on different cars. No brand otehr than Tesla has such crazy stories about things from stinking cars to water bulding up in doors. However, I can't figure out if those problems are 1 in 1,000 or 1 in 10,000. But I think the problem isn't that Tesla's break...
  16. Petrocelli

    Is Tesla service deteriorating as they scale??

    If Tesla could get its service and build quality under control, it would be the only logical choice for an EV given its Supercharger network and brand recognition. A year ago, I was about 90% certain I was going to buy a Model 3. But the service horror stories (many on this forum) scared me...
  17. Petrocelli

    “Service changes” - no car wash, Lyft, loaner policy

    I am guilty on both counts. I have leased a Mercedes C Class since 1997. I get a 45,000 miles lease, when it gets to 44,000 miles, I bring it back. Mercedes writes off the remaining lease payments, and I get a new Mercedes. Essentially, I rent a Mercedes for $20 a day. I always drive a...
  18. Petrocelli

    “Service changes” - no car wash, Lyft, loaner policy

    When I was car shopping last year, the base model Model 3 ($39,000 sticker) leased for $595 with $1000 cap reduction, no service included. I leased a Mercedes C300 Coupe ($50,000 sticker) for $615 a month with $1000 cap reduction. That price included all service. If you like to lease...
  19. Petrocelli

    “Service changes” - no car wash, Lyft, loaner policy

    I have owned a Mercedes since 1997. I lease a new one every 3 years. My lease always includes all service. I get a car wash every time I get a service. I get an Uber to and from work. If repairs take more than a day, I get a loaner. I have a regular service rep. I have his cell phone...
  20. Petrocelli

    Former muscle car owner - thoughts and opinions

    None of the cars he or she mentioned have scheduled maintenance every 5,000 miles.
  21. Petrocelli

    Former muscle car owner - thoughts and opinions

    That's incorrect. Mercedes scheduled service is every 10,000 miles.
  22. Petrocelli

    Former muscle car owner - thoughts and opinions

    I was considering a Model 3, but got a Mercedes C300 Coupe. I like the sound of the engine in Sport Mode. However, I'm pretty sure my next car will be an EV. (I'll probably get a Mercedes if they have a good one.
  23. Petrocelli

    This truck design had better be a joke....

    I thought it was ugly when I first saw it. I now think it's cool. At a minimum, you have to admire Tesla for pushing the design envelope.
  24. Petrocelli

    can u imagine how bad Tesla service will be in 2022?

    I did not say you were a troll. I was answering your question.
  25. Petrocelli

    can u imagine how bad Tesla service will be in 2022?

    Based on my monitoring of posts on this forum, it seems to me like complaints are decreasing. I expect that in 2022 (when I get my next car) Tesla will have things straightened out.
  26. Petrocelli

    MOTORTREND: ! EXCLUSIVE TESLA MODEL Y PHOTOS

    Do not like the rear of the car. It looks like a bug.
  27. Petrocelli

    Volvo XC40 EV?

    That Volvo will certainly be in the running for my next car.
  28. Petrocelli

    Mrs caused paint damage to rear bumper

    I want to see some posts from women about the dumb crap men do. I do way more dopey stuff than my wife. Oh, to answer the question, body shop. Treat that Tesla right.
  29. Petrocelli

    My Wife Doesn't Like Driving my Tesla -

    Most women have better things to do than hang out on the internet and discuss cars with total strangers.
  30. Petrocelli

    Does 0 to 60 really matter? What about 55 to 75?

    It is undisputed that a Model 3 performance can beat pretty much any car off the line. I don't know about you, but I don't ever accelerate fast off the line. (Maybe if I had a Model3 Performance I would.) Generally, I find that most of my acceleration is going from about 55 to 75 or 80 to...
  31. Petrocelli

    Spotify Not Advancing

    The most technologically advanced car in the world can't play the most popular music platform in the world? Go figure.
  32. Petrocelli

    Elon Musk

    Tesla fired a union organizer. The guy LOST HIS JOB for engaging in a legally protected activity. You think a different judge would have changed that result?
  33. Petrocelli

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This analyst was worried that demand is "leveling off".
  34. Petrocelli

    V10 is coming with "Caraoke" -- A functioning music player would also be nice :)

    With Spotify, you can download songs, so you can listen to music through your phone, even when you don't have reception.
  35. Petrocelli

    Unpopular Opinion: The 3 is a $30k car and was built as such

    I don't think the OP is a "snowflake." He appears to have legitimate complaints.
  36. Petrocelli

    Unpopular Opinion: The 3 is a $30k car and was built as such

    Watch this video of a Tesla Model 3 assembly. Then watch this video of a Mercedes C Class assembly.
  37. Petrocelli

    Unpopular Opinion: The 3 is a $30k car and was built as such

    I agree with you, but the question is whether a Tesla is worth $xx,xxx. My point is that the "fit and finish" issues are priced into the car. Stated differently, if a Tesla had no fit and finish issues, and if Tesla had service centers equal to German luxury brands, the cost of the car would be...
  38. Petrocelli

    Unpopular Opinion: The 3 is a $30k car and was built as such

    A car is worth whatever a willing buyer will pay for it. If a couple hundred thousand people spend $50,000 on a car, then it is worth $50,000.
  39. Petrocelli

    MASTER THREAD: all Smart Summon-related posts go here

    So let's summarize... You shouldn't use SS in a crowded parking lot, or anywhere where there are a lot of cars and/or pedestrians. If you do so, the car will become confused, and will probably confuse other drivers and/or pedestrians. The range of SS is about 200 feet. SS works somewhat well...
  40. Petrocelli

    MASTER THREAD: all Smart Summon-related posts go here

    I still fail to see how Smart Summon is a useful application. By the time the car figures out how to get to you (assuming it doesn't hit something like a curb), you could have walked to the car several times and back.
  41. Petrocelli

    MASTER THREAD: all Smart Summon-related posts go here

    I saw this video on YouTube. It's from The Frugal Tesla Guy, who is a big Tesla advocate. To put it mildly, the car appears very confused. At 4:00, it drives up on a curb and damages a rim.
  42. Petrocelli

    MASTER THREAD: all Smart Summon-related posts go here

    I read somewhere that Smart Summon has a range of about 200 feet. Wouldn't it be easier to just walk 200 feet to your car?
  43. Petrocelli

    Elon Musk

    In fairness to Musk, Tesla broke the law, not Musk. I'm uncertain what control Musk has over HR decisions, if any.
  44. Petrocelli

    Test Drive Tomorrow

    Here's what I would do: Tell the salesperson you are going to buy a car today. Tell the salesperson that you are going to buy either a Tesla or a [insert brand]. Then see what happens. If nothing happens and you want the car, buy the car today. Life is short.
  45. Petrocelli

    While I was on AP, a reckless driver Hit and Ran me.

    The dangers of relying on autopilot...
  46. Petrocelli

    Test Drive Tomorrow

    I don't know if it's a "thing with Tesla." I was responding to the OP's statement that the salesperson already asked him "What do I have to do for you to take delivery this weekend?" So, apparently, it is a "thing" this weekend (on the last sales day of the quarter.)
  47. Petrocelli

    Test Drive Tomorrow

    That is a standard question every car salesperson asks. I wouldn't read too much into it. If you are ready to buy, let the salesperson know it and see if you can get concessions. If you can't, indicate you are ready to walk out. About half the time, the salesperson will then give you...
  48. Petrocelli

    North Americans: Would you pay for Spotify? VOTE!

    Comparing Slacker to Spotify is kind of like comparing a Prius to a Tesla. Both play music, but Slacker is basically a radio station. Spotify gives you access to pretty much every major artist ever; you can play entire albums; you can search by artist; you can make playlists; Spotify has...