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  1. SaniDel

    Potential long term owner....need advice

    Amen to that! My wife and I have owned many vehicles, never leased, but Tesla is the vehicle to lease. No one can guarantee that Tesla will be right for you or even that Tesla will survive. Imagine buying a great Tesla vehicle, but having the Tesla company go bankrupt like DMC, Bricklin, Fisher...
  2. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    It was better than expected! My wife and I met our son and daughter-in-law at the Devon Pennsylvania dealership. We spent about 45 minutes with 'Alex' gathered around the showroom Model X peppering him with questions ... all of which he answered with aplomb. Then the five of us piled into a...
  3. SaniDel

    Is the X too heavy for a tile floor garage?

    Perhaps it was because the tires on the EVs were new? Tires are made of rubber, but there are a lot of chemicals involved. Walk into a tire store ... notice the “new tire” smell? No idea what that is, but it may have softened the EpoxyShield on your garage floor so that it stuck to the new...
  4. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    Good to know, KerryOH ... especially considering the distance you would have to drive to Devon. We will be there Monday morning with our son and his wife for concurrent test drives ... a Model 3 for them and a Model X for us.
  5. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    Excellent news, fellow Delawarean dannycamps! The more the Tesla Model X reminds us of our 'panzerwagen' the easier the transition ... having M-B switchgear will help. I use the "press to hold" extensively and especially at a stoplight when I am #1 and might have to ... well, sometimes you just...
  6. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    We have much in common, shinytop ... and not just our age. My concession to get a Tesla is to go "back to the future" in our new residence ... no technology beyond what Ozzie and Harriet could deal with, a.k.a., The Revenge of Analog! The deal is I control what's in the garage and my wife...
  7. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    Excellent point, mikevbf ... a Tesla is unlike any other vehicle and it would take more than one test drive to adapt. My wife and I are 70, which puts us at the upper end of the target demographics for Tesla, but we're fairly open-minded about trying new vehicles, e.g., a rotary-engined Mazda...
  8. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    Thanks, Zaxxon ... won't expect that on Monday when we take the test drive, but good to know it is in the pipeline!
  9. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    Thanks, Vm.one ... next to the FWD this seems like one of the nicest amenities of the vehicle. Concurrent with purchasing a Tesla we are also 'downsizing' from a two-car garage to a one-car garage. I expect that the Model X front doors could hit the walls of the garage ... will the...
  10. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    Thanks, jboy210 ... I expect to be doing a lot of smiling!
  11. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    Thanks, sacfan ... a good place to start as going from an ICE to an EV is a big enough step! I'll start as you suggested, but ask them to switch before we finish the test drive for the obvious advantages an EV offers.
  12. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    Thanks, Zaxxon ... another big difference! Our current vehicle automatically sets the brakes when stopped on an uphill and I can preset the brakes anytime by pushing hard and releasing ... a 'HOLD' icon displays to confirm the brakes are set. This is useful for a quick start as they release the...
  13. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    Thanks KerryOH ... regards to "Lower, Slower Delaware" from Greenville Delaware! This will be a big change. Our current vehicle is a conventional ICE large and heavy SUV that seems to roll forever when you take your foot off the gas and accelerates rapidly coasting downhill. We'll ask to try...
  14. SaniDel

    Model X Test Drive

    Thanks to this forum we are ready to take the next step and have scheduled a test drive. Our first encounter with a Model X will be to answer the "big picture" questions discussed in this thread: Model X Replacement for Mercedes-Benz GL550 We're hoping for no showstoppers ... inadequate...
  15. SaniDel

    Is the X too heavy for a tile floor garage?

    This begs the question about what would have happened without the tile? If the compressive strength for the tile is 5,120 PSI which is more than typical concrete in residential applications ... would the jack have crushed the 'crete? We all know what happens when jacking on asphalt ... big dents!
  16. SaniDel

    Is the X too heavy for a tile floor garage?

    Is the slight deformation of the tile pattern where the vehicle was supported on a jack? SwissTrax claims a compressive strength of 5,120 PSI which likely exceeds the strength of the underlying concrete! https://www.swisstrax.com/garage/ I once had to beat something ... not someone ... with...
  17. SaniDel

    Is the X too heavy for a tile floor garage?

    The TraxTile in the appended photograph was installed in December 2014. Five years later it looks the same with one exception. Hot tires tend to discolor the lighter tiles where the vehicle is parked. Unfortunately, the pattern I chose has our vehicle parked on the light silver in the center ...
  18. SaniDel

    Is the X too heavy for a tile floor garage?

    We're making a mountain out of a molehill. The compressive strength of cured concrete can be as low as 2,000 PSI to as much as 10,000 PSI, but typically 2,500 to 3,000 PSI in residential construction: https://shop.iccsafe.org/media/wysiwyg/material/9090S15-Sample.pdf We're orders of magnitude...
  19. SaniDel

    Is the X too heavy for a tile floor garage?

    I've attached a picture of my dream garage shortly after it was finished, but before I had a chance to clutter it! The floor tile is called SwissTrax, a.k.a. TraxTile. Everything you need to know about it is here: https://www.swisstrax.com With regard to your specific questions ... I applied...
  20. SaniDel

    Would you buy another MX after having a lemon?

    That's unheard of AFAIK ... congratulations! I would have expected them to offer a no-cost trade* to a different vehicle, but if they are buying back your vehicle you have the option to buy something different ... or to buy another Tesla. Thanks for asking our opinion about whether to buy...
  21. SaniDel

    Model X Repair

    Since you mentioned the 'L' word may I suggest that you review your state's Lemon Law? Each state is different, generalizations are not helpful, but from what you said your vehicle has been in for service for several problems. October 14 "started a clock" ... Tesla may have to repair within so...
  22. SaniDel

    Why can't a $100K Raven X do what a $50K Chevy does with its cameras?

    I'm familiar with most, but not all of what this video features in my current vehicle and would miss it. Hopefully ... Tesla will introduce these features in subsequent versions of the software as the hardware is already installed. What I saw that was not familiar was the rear view mirror...
  23. SaniDel

    New to Tesla Charging Question

    Breaker spaces 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 are available. The panel is rated for 150 Amperes. Whether your electrical utility can provide that much current remains to be seen, but it seems you have an adequate panel. Follow the URLs provided by user212_elijah to find a local electrician who can evaluate...
  24. SaniDel

    Tesla Model X Raven noise that all potential buyer should know about before buying it!

    Interesting your use of the word ‘pattern’ to describe the sound. A Tesla has two drivetrains ... one for the front and a second for the rear. Each drivetrain will produce a characteristic sound specific to that drivetrain. If the two drivetrains produce frequencies that are slightly different...
  25. SaniDel

    Model X Wind Noise

    Weatherstrip Alignment
  26. SaniDel

    Weatherstrip Alignment

    Thanks, hayito ... this is one of the few concerns I have about Tesla design. Tesla uses a 'frameless' design for the front door windows ... the window glass swings with the door, but the weatherstripping stays with the car body. It looks great ... especially when the doors are open and the...
  27. SaniDel

    Homelink operation in reverse?

  28. SaniDel

    Model X Replacement for Mercedes-Benz GL550

    We have already "written-off" the M-B EQC. We have had several GLCs as loaners ... most recently a 2020 with less than 500 miles. It is at least "one size too small" for us, there are too many compromises in comfort, ride quality and conveniences. Electrifying a GLC and rebadging it as a EQC...
  29. SaniDel

    Model X Replacement for Mercedes-Benz GL550

    Thanks, alphainfinity! Excellent points, which we will consider before trading. We are concerned that a Tesla Model X won't have the same quality 'reminders' as our 2015 GL 550, e.g., ride quality, absence of wind and road noise, fit and finish, but especially what you describe as "the endless...
  30. SaniDel

    Model X Replacement for Mercedes-Benz GL550

    Thanks you, Daisame! Before the extended warranty on our M-B expires in the Spring of 2022 we feel compelled to trade our M-B as we are unwilling to self-insure. If we are as convinced then that the Tesla X is a worthy successor ... or if we need further convincing we will take you up on your offer!
  31. SaniDel

    Model X Replacement for Mercedes-Benz GL550

    {{ngMeta.title}} This describes our predicament. Tesla is wrecking the used car market ... especially for European luxury brands. Our 2015 GL550 with 30,000 miles is worth a third of what we paid for it. We have less than three years before the extended warranty expires with no option to extend...
  32. SaniDel

    Model X Wind Noise

    The driver's and passenger's doors are frameless, i.e., the window opens with the door, but the weather stripping remains attached to the car body: Looks nice, but inevitably it is a less reliable design than if the window was framed with metal and weatherstripped to seal to the body...
  33. SaniDel

    Model X - Buy or Lease

    Your situation is very familiar. We've always owned our vehicles, drove them long and hard and since 1996 have owned only one vehicle at a time for both my wife and I to drive. As we age our mileage declined and we're now accumulating less than seven thousand miles annually, which would be...
  34. SaniDel

    I have a lemon! What do I do?

    Thanks, rjdoc74! That's what I meant, but said in too few words. It would be unreasonable to expect a full refund as depreciation alone significantly reduces the value of a vehicle, not to mention wear and tear. So, at best ... a check for less than the purchase price. Would that check only be...
  35. SaniDel

    I have a lemon! What do I do?

    Amen ... testarossa! The purpose of "Lemon Laws" is to eliminate the need to involve attorneys. Much the way that many (all?) states have adopted "no fault" insurance to eliminate the need to litigate even minor accidents, the "Lemon Laws" were passed to eliminate the need to litigate this...
  36. SaniDel

    I have a lemon! What do I do?

    Had a vehicle replaced under Arizona’s “Lemon Law” but twenty or so years ago! What I recall from the attorney we consulted is to read the booklet in the glovebox very carefully for the specific requirements of the state. As others have advised it is not the total number of problems, but the...
  37. SaniDel

    Road-Trip Feedback (From the Passengers)

    Would raising the air suspension help? In our (non-Tesla) with air suspension we park with the suspension raised to exit the vehicle and lower the suspension when passengers enter the vehicle.
  38. SaniDel

    KEY in MX & other ?'s

    Very interesting, jerseygirl18! You must rely on "physical security" to protect your vehicles, e.g., a locked garage. Otherwise, anyone could jump into your vehicles and drive off, right? Presumably .. you don't ... and probably can't lock your vehicles with the key(s) in your car(s). Our M-B...
  39. SaniDel

    KEY in MX & other ?'s

    Now that's interesting, beast53568! There is a "Faraday cage" on the inside of the vehicle? Faraday cage - Wikipedia IIUC ... the vehicle when locked will not be able to communicate with the key even though it is inside the vehicle. For all intents and purposes, that would be the same as...
  40. SaniDel

    Is Tesla making their resale value obsolete?

    Good point, fasteddie7! Our annual mileage for our only vehicle is under seven thousand miles, which should be a good match for leasing, but I suspect we will have trouble keeping it that low with a Tesla!
  41. SaniDel

    sitting on v9.0 (2019.15.106.1)

    I didn't know that! Why would charging take precedence over downloading? Not a perfect comparison, but Apple iPhones typically suppress downloading when it is NOT charging. I don't have a Tesla ... yet, but I had assumed it would "charge like an iPhone" ... plug it in when I park it to charge...
  42. SaniDel

    Is Tesla making their resale value obsolete?

    My wife and I are also planning to buy a Tesla Model X and have the same concerns. Teslas change rapidly ... partly because of technological advances, but also because Tesla doesn't 'respect' the "model year" convention of traditional automobile manufacturers. Improvements are introduced when...
  43. SaniDel

    Noise and Heat While Charging

    Amen, ewoodrick!
  44. SaniDel

    6 or 7 seats

    Thanks, shinytop! Please say more about the extra/larger AC in the 6 and 7 seat versions. Is that part of extra cost over the 5 seat version? We don’t need more than five seats, but we might need more air conditioning.
  45. SaniDel

    Noise and Heat While Charging

    Thanks, Tam ... but 110 degrees? It must be dry in Visalia California ... in Greenville Delaware my tolerance limit is 90 degrees due to higher humidity. Regardless ... your point remains that the heat and noise due to home charging is minimal, but there may be occasional noise due to the HVAC...
  46. SaniDel

    Noise and Heat While Charging

    Thanks, FoxSTL2HOU ... I plan to insulate and condition the garage anyway for my comfort, but will up-size it slightly to offset any waste heat from the battery or the charger.
  47. SaniDel

    Model X Replacement for Mercedes-Benz GL550

    Zaxxon ... not yet, but soon! Our son is also shopping for a Model 3 and we want him to be the "guinea pig" to lead the way for the rest of the family. He's certain to get a Model 3, but the big issues are the same for all Teslas. We're just as certain to get a Model X ... assuming we find no...
  48. SaniDel

    Outrageous $5000 repair bill after warranty expire!

    mohanman ... tell us again when you brought the extended warranty ... when you bought the vehicle, during its original warranty or after the original warranty had expired? Did you qualify for the $500 discount for early purchase a.k.a. the $500 penalty for late purchase? In any event ...
  49. SaniDel

    Model X Replacement for Mercedes-Benz GL550

    Thanks again, DoctorVenkman! One of the reasons we are delaying purchase of a Tesla Model X is to keep our M-B GL550 until our downsizing. Once we are relocated its cargo hauling capacity will no longer be required and it will be time to trade. Still, there are those occasional times when you...