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  1. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Here is how you would set up the 4 relays if you have the 4 inputs of tail in, brake in, left in, right in. Tail in is also known as running lights. Note that in pre-2021 Model S, there was a left and right tail-in and they needed to be combined with another relay to get proper behaviour...
  2. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    It appears that the US version is using the orange turn signal lights. Here's a video I found showing the refresh lights: Yes that would mean the relay board setup would need to be modified to work with the new Model S. The board I recommended has 4 relays. It may be possible to wire it up to...
  3. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    There are likely lights in the back of the car that do behave in the way the board config expects. To test, have someone push the brake and the activate the turn signals and see which lights act as both the brake and turn signal lights. For the older model S, it is the lower lights and I tapped...
  4. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    The brake lights are the same as when the both left and right turn lights are on. At least this is how it works on the older Model S. This is also how 4 pin trailer wiring works. Therefore, you connect left turn from car to left in on the board and right turn from the car to right in on the...
  5. jjvan

    Drive unit replacement under warranty yet costing $5k

    Have you talked to a Tesla service advisor about it yet? If the original fault is the drive unit, you shouldn’t be paying for new harnesses. It sounds to me like the new DU requires new harnesses and they are trying to charge you for it. If it’s a DU problem, ask them for one that is compatible...
  6. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    The wiring for your 2022 Model S does look entirely different. I just logged into service.tesla.com and I can see that the electrical diagrams are totally different for 2021+. Perhaps you can log in and look at those diagrams for more information. I know they are difficult to follow though.
  7. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I personally prefer to keep the trailer wires in the trunk to keep it out of the weather and avoid corroding the connector. It also saves having to drill holes to the outside of the car. The liftgate seal is soft enough that it doesn't damage the wiring.
  8. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    The liftgate module on mine (2015 85D) was just behind the wheel well on the right side under the carpet liner. The 12V power wires were the thicker gauge ones and were coloured: I used quick connects to connect the wires as show in the image.
  9. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Those left/right wires connect to the wires of the car tail lights. I specified the colours in my original post which I'll copy here. Sorry no photos of those. Left Turn (from car) = Left in wire, Right Turn (from car) = Right in wire, Left Tail (from car) = Left Tail in wire, Right Tail (from...
  10. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    That's very big soft shackle! Do you put the soft shackles through the chain attachment points on the hitch and then attach the safety chains to them? Do you have a picture that you can share?
  11. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    For the new x7201s, the bumper support and reinforcement is not reinstalled. It would not fit even if you tried. The older (and less strong) x7201 is designed to have it reinstalled on top like xxaarraa said.
  12. jjvan

    Purchased 2020 Model S Performance Used from Tesla.com

    Happy to hear you are being taken care of. I hope you get to enjoy the car soon.
  13. jjvan

    Purchased 2020 Model S Performance Used from Tesla.com

    I have found Tesla to be excellent at addressing the issues that have come up on the two used cars I bought from them. Yes there may be some issues with the cars at first but they will fix the issues when you identify them. They treat used cars similarly to the new cars in that respect. I...
  14. jjvan

    Purchased 2020 Model S Performance Used from Tesla.com

    Tesla should fix it for you if you have the evidence of these issues at pickup time. Tesla doesn't repair cosmetic issues like scratches and small dents but they will cover any mechanical issues. I would think that missing panels will be covered. I was told by a service advisor recently that...
  15. jjvan

    057 Technology

    Thank you for the very informative post. From that, it does appear that you are attempting to meet your obligations for activated service plans in good faith which is very important from a legal perspective. Also I am assuming you are providing a remedy for people who never received a BMD and...
  16. jjvan

    057 Technology

    Yes but if 057 prevents you from fulfilling the term of the agreement (because of lack of reasonable response times), you have an obligation to mitigate damages which may include getting Tesla to do the repair because you have a vehicle that is sitting there dead. The law will back you on that.
  17. jjvan

    057 Technology

    057 has not yet said the service plans won't be honoured. It is just silence. Therefore the only claim people have against 057 is if they have a valid service plan and their battery has failed. If your battery has not yet failed, 057 doesn't owe anything (yet). If you do have a failure and 057...
  18. jjvan

    Vendor Tesla Model S Battery Extended Service Plans from 057 Technology

    wk057 has been an amazing contributor to this community but the facts lead me to two possibilities: either the company was bought to not continue the current business model OR the company is bankrupt. If the company was sold and the new owners want to continue the business model, they would...
  19. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    The new version is much stronger with much thicker tubing than the previous version. See the pics I took of the new one here: Model S Trailer Hitch Installation
  20. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    This is the stainless ecohitch with 4000lbs capacity. The product number is X7201s. https://torkliftcentral.com/2012-2021-pre-refresh-tesla-model-s-stainless-steel-stealth-ecohitch
  21. jjvan

    Adding a hitch for a bike rack to a Model S

    The new Torklift Ecohitch X7201s doesn't require the bumper support piece to be reinstalled and I doubt that it would be required for the modified draw-tite hitch either. The new eco hitch is rated for 4000lbs and is specifically designed for the Model S which negates the need to install the...
  22. jjvan

    Class 3 Tow Hitch For Model S

    Instead of modifying the Model X drawtite hitch, I ended up installing the new version Model S Torklift Ecohitch Stealth Stainless x7201s that is rated for 4000lbs. With that hitch all 8 bolts per side are used and the original bumper support is not re-installed. Before that when I marked the X...
  23. jjvan

    Warranty through CBI Finance

    Ok how do I get a quote? You quote page only lists US states.
  24. jjvan

    Warranty through CBI Finance

    This is the Canada forum section. Do you offer warranties in Canada? I see you are based in the US.
  25. jjvan

    Warranty through CBI Finance

    Looking again at the parts list they list "Shaft assembly" as covered for BEV. That looks like it would cover the half-shafts.
  26. jjvan

    Warranty through CBI Finance

    Thanks of the feedback. If you look at the coverage doc they have posted (CBI Finance Coverage), axles are listed as covered under PHEV and HEV but not BEV. I've had the front half-shaft axles replaced twice on my Model S in the last 4 years under warranty and I always drive in the normal height...
  27. jjvan

    What Constitutes Battery Replacement Under Warranty for Older Batteries?

    Thank you for the feedback. Yes when you consider it is only +/- 1.8% from the average CAC, it doesn’t sound that bad. The overall battery degradation from new is only 5.5% after 8 years and that has been fairly stable. I was kinda freaking out when I read that a 5 Ah imbalance means eventual...
  28. jjvan

    What Constitutes Battery Replacement Under Warranty for Older Batteries?

    So @Recell if I have a pack with 8 Ah min-to-max and min-to-avg being 4 Ah, does that suggest a potential problems with the pack in the future? The pack is performing fine at the moment.
  29. jjvan

    Warranty through CBI Finance

    The problem with their warranty is that it only covers an explicit parts list. I just reviewed the list and it wouldn't even cover the most common items for my Model S like door handles, axel / half shafts, LCD screens and suspension components. However it does look like it would cover the...
  30. jjvan

    Anyone in Vancouver that can Scan My Tesla with my 2015 Model S?

    I have a 2015 Model S with the older 12 pin CAN bus and I would like to hook up Scan My Tesla but I don't have the Can Bus ODB2 adapter. Does anyone in the Vancouver area have the adapter and the ODBLinkMX+ and is willing to lend it out? Please let me know. Thank you! J
  31. jjvan

    What else can break on my 2014 Model S?

    @Nick B How did you sign up for Garantie Avantage Plus? Did you get it through a dealer or contact them directly? I wonder if they offer the warranty to the rest of Canada outside of Quebec. Seems like a great deal.
  32. jjvan

    Windshield wiper arm scraping metal under the hood

    I just had this same problem. The wiper arm was hitting the hood and carved out a nice notch in the metal rim on the underside of the hood. Tesla is fixing the wiper arm today under warranty. They said they will refer me to a body shop to have the hood fixed too under warranty. Before I could...
  33. jjvan

    Towing Camper with Model S 85D?

    I can see your reasoning for continuous trailer use and I like your magnet solution. I also like your D-ring shackle solution for making chaining up the trailer to the hitch easier. I will look into doing that as well.
  34. jjvan

    Towing Camper with Model S 85D?

    I kept the trailer plug in the trunk and pull it out when needed for the trailer. I didn't want the trailer plug to be exposed to the elements all the time and I didn't want to drill any holes in the frame. I use the 4 pin connector and the 4 wires are small enough to fit nicely through the...
  35. jjvan

    Towing Camper with Model S 85D?

    There is a fix for the tail light and turn signals to work. This has been covered a few times on TMC. You can combine the left and right tail lights using a relay to activate the trailer tail lights only when both the Tesla right and left tail lights are on. What happens is that during the day...
  36. jjvan

    Towing Camper with Model S 85D?

    I have an older pacific trailer, dual axle with bunks. What are you thinking of towing?
  37. jjvan

    Towing Camper with Model S 85D?

    @2022S-LR I don’t used a brake controller as my trailer has hydraulic surge brakes. I don’t know if the Model S has the same plug as the Model X but I would guess that it doesn’t. You can always install an aftermarket brake controller though.
  38. jjvan

    Towing Camper with Model S 85D?

    I tow my sailboat (4000lbs) with my Model S 85D and power-wise it handles it no problem and it tows better than my v8 truck. I use the new stainless ecohitch with the 4000 lbs tow rating and 400 lb tongue rating. Although the stock Model S is not officially supported for towing by Tesla, it has...
  39. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I listed the one I use in a previous post: Model S Trailer Hitch Installation
  40. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    This should work on your car. The refresh they are talking about is the new refresh in 2022 (not the old refresh in 2016). So pre-refresh for Torklift is the 2012-2021 models. The x7201s is definitely the better hitch to get. It is also stainless steel and won't rust.
  41. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I had someone ask me more details on the how this relay board for trailer wiring is hooked up. Here is a labelled photo that I hope clarifies the connections. I'm sorry that some of the wire colours are not intuitive.
  42. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    This behaviour has been noted several times in this thread and other threads. You can solve it by using the "tail" wires from each side and making an AND gate with a relay. Or you can just keep the tail lights on while trailering. See my post on wiring here.
  43. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I use this adjustable 4 level hitch riser: 10" Adjustable Hitch Ball Mount 7,500 Pound Capacity with 4 Levels of rise Some of the drop bars have a reduced capacity rating when upside down. Just make sure the rating is higher than your load.
  44. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Mine does have a little bit of a lip on it like yours but I didn’t check to see if it was any different from before I put the hitch on.
  45. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Thank you for the seatbelt tip! I was having this same problem backing down the ramp and the parking brake coming on suddenly. I thought it was the rear parking sensors getting confused with the trailer but it now appears to be my weight coming off the seat while looking back like @dmwahl. I...
  46. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Yes the trailer has brakes.
  47. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Every EV is going to take a massive range hit when towing because EVs use all the design tricks to be extra aerodynamic and efficient. You throw all that efficiently out the window when you tow something like a boat. This will be true also for other EVs including the Cybertruck. The solution to...
  48. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    The best way to get better range is to drive slower especially while towing a boat that has significant wind drag like mine. If you are ever worried that you won't reach the next supercharger, move to the slow lane and reduce speed.
  49. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Oh too bad the Model S wasn’t working for you. My towing trips are much less distance than yours and I am loving towing with my Model S. I towed my 4000 lb sailboat about 50 km (30 miles) with no trouble at all. It climbs hills so much better than my v8 F150 truck and with no roaring engine...
  50. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Here is a pic of the lift gate module on the right side of the trunk where I tapped the 12v+ and 12v-.