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I agree. It still makes mistakes and I never allow it to continue to the point that it becomes a safety issue. The only people who gain from zero intervention drives are YouTubers. For the rest of us intervene as soon as you see it about to make a mistake.

Shouldn’t every update be better than the previous one? We are not making progress if that’s not the case.

I STRONGLY disagree. I love the yoke and removal of stalks. The ONLY thing I don’t like is the placement of the horn. Otherwise I very much prefer it over a steering wheel.

I expect 10.69.2.1 soon to address a lot of issues like that.

I just had my yoke replaced by service free of charge. I think they are ware it’s a materials issue and hopefully will not fight customers on it.

I never feel heat from the roof and I live in Texas. Maybe you have defective factory tint. Could add a tint after market to block heat.

I see the same behavior when leaving the alleyway behind my house. It speeds out onto the main road as if the alleyway is the main street.

The right turns always make me nervous. I make sure I clearly see the curb before the turn starts so I can judge if I think I might hit it. If I’m uncertain I intervene and just re-enable immediately after exiting the turn.

I completely agree with everything you said. 1st priority is the testing needs of the team. Just when all things are equal show some love to the longest waiting customers.

Get on Wi-Fi and try toggling the advanced software setting off then on. A minute or so after I did that my car started downloading the beta. Of course I also drove 100 AP miles earlier in the day to meet that qualification.

Can you post the exact location of that intersection? Perhaps another user on the forum lives near by and can do the same test. At least then we can rule out if it’s just your car.

Fair question, I define ‘loyal customer’ as someone that bought FSD years ago. They still need to opt into the beta queue and meet requirements. Assuming Tesla has more customers who want the beta than slots available then they should set a minimum qualification criteria, then add people based...

I’m not sure there is a certain time it rolls out. I think you just have to get your car to check for an update once you meet the 100 mile AP criteria. I completed my 100 mile penance around 2am. Around 3pm later that day I still had nothing. Out of curiosity I checked the last update checked...

Never mind, looks like my 100 mile AP drive late last night did the trick. FSD beta is downloading to my car as we speak.

With my luck the beta expansion ended last night at midnight and I missed the cutoff by 2 hours. 🤷🏾‍♂🤦🏾‍♂️

You are creating a straw man argument. Clearly the beta is good enough to give to a few more diehard customers who understand the seriousness of testing the beta. The problem has been they ignore their most loyal customer base. They give the beta to some dude who just got his first Tesla 2...

I hope you’re right. I just drove 100 miles late last night / early this morning. Hopefully there’s another push tonight and I finally get added.

I drove 100 miles on AP early this morning just to make sure I meet the threshold. 98 SS. No beta update yet for me. 🤷🏾‍♂️

We definitely do get scored on AP. Where did you hear otherwise?

Pressure from owners is a valid reason to expand.

I maintained a 98 / 99 score for 5 months before I gave up last month. I know exactly how the score works. Maintaining that score meant doing all the things I mentioned like never using the brake pads and turning slowly. I do not believe you ‘drive really fast’ unless you are only doing it on...

Anyone who says the safety score doesn’t require unnecessarily slow driving is either lying or drives like a grandma by default and they don’t realize they are the grandma driver we are referring to. - Using the brake pads at all = aggressive braking - Roundabouts / turns at the natural speed...

Fair point. Just hard to be optimistic when we’ve been waiting for 5 months and still get passed over in the first wave of an expansion since December.

Makes me feel a little better that I’m not alone. I had a 98 - 99 score since January. Turned off the safety score a few weeks ago because I was tired of playing the SS game with no end in sight. I opted back in last week after I saw the beta expanding to more existing beta users. Had a 97 score...

Got pics?

XPEL Dallas is good.

You nailed it. I don’t mind driving with the safety score if I know there’s a benefit (lower cost insurance or eminent FSD beta admittance). The part that’s frustrating is driving with it for 5 months with literally no benefit.

This is why I opted out of the beta request queue a couple days ago. Tired of the moving goal posts. I’m so happy I did because I actually enjoy driving again after 5 wasted months with the safety score. When I see hard evidence they are ready to expand the beta to first time participants I’ll...

I think it’ll be at least 2 weeks before the .2 update. Based on recent experience it could easily be 4 - 6 weeks before they release that point release. Also wouldn’t be surprised if they have major issues and skip 10.12.2 and just reset the whole process on 10.13, delaying new user additions...

I believe those were 40,000 Canadian users. No new US users have been added.

Makes perfect sense. Buy a performance car to NOT drive it like a performance car. You two are true geniuses! Wish I had thought of that earlier. I’m going to the garage right now to replace the PLAID emblem with PRIUS.

Actually using the brake pads to stop faster than regen is equivalent to being on the verge of losing control? I’ve heard it all now. 😂😂😂

I find your description of ‘extremely aggressive’ impossible to believe. If you don’t turn or stop with enough force to freak out the safety score algorithm then you are not driving aggressively. On top of that you can’t accelerate around a car in traffic without getting a collision warning...

Damn you Elon! I was finally at peace with turning off the safety score to enjoy my car. Now I need to maintain it for another week or 2 or 5 or 10. We know how this goes. 🤦🏾‍♂️

I think we are talking about two different things. I paid $150k for the world’s fastest accelerating production car, but I drive it like it’s an Accord because of the safety score. It’s impossible to do any spirited driving that my $150k paid for because you can’t do that without a strong...

(moderator edit) How long did you actually drive with a safety score before getting the beta? From every thread I’ve read on this board and TeslaFi there are no known new additions to the US beta since December 2021 so how did you get added in January 2022? I stand by the ‘drive like a grandma’...

(moderator edit) How long did you have to maintain a 98 safety score before you got into the beta? I guarantee it wasn’t 5 months with no idea of an end date. Driving like a grandma hoping to maybe eventually one day get the FSD beta is not at all the same as actually testing the beta. We are...

I am probably gonna do the same this weekend as well. I’ve wasted the last 5 months of ownership driving my Plaid like a Prius. I think I regret wasting those 5 months more than I’ll regret not having the beta.

Here you go. I typically just google ‘safety score calculator’ when I need to find it. https://www.notateslaapp.com/safety-score-calculator

Tesla insurance is also available in Texas.

No one has been added to the beta since December. You will probably get in whenever they finally start adding new people again. According to Elon that should happen next week.

So there shouldn’t be any discussion in this thread until there are new tweets. Problem solved.

What are the odds this thread actually covers Elon FSD beta tweets instead of philosophy lessons?

I’m tempted to do this but with my luck they’ll finally start a new rollout right after opting out. Then stop accepting new people after I meet requirements. 🤦🏾‍♂️ I’m 3 months in at this point. Too much invested. 😂

I agree their service and communication are beyond terrible. However because of Elon their products are second to none. I really need them to fix their issues but at the end of the day I spend 99.9% of my time with the product and 0.1% dealing with the company. I’ll take that trade off every...

Thanks for proving my point. If Musk’s only comparable CEO is Steve Jobs then he’s pretty special.

The worst companies are the ones that give you lots of uninteresting options. Just go look at your typical car company with all their options that exist only to hide the fact their main product sucks. I don’t need Tesla to provide lots of options, I need them to innovate and provide great products.

They don’t need a new CEO for that. Sounds like you’re describing a COO.

It’s not about what he does for Tesla on a daily basis, it’s having his conviction and highly specific vision at the top of the company that’s valuable. Having thousands of employees working in the same direction is how amazing things happen, even if that direction is wrong sometimes. Tesla is...

So did you opt out of the beta to remove the opportunity to use it at your discretion? The reason your answer is NO is the same reason we are still trying to get in. We want to try it for ourselves and use it when we want to, if we want to. No one expects it to work perfectly, but we all paid...