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The US is mega expensive these days, but they earn a heap more and are far far wealthier in general, so actually the cars there look even more generously priced. UK incomes are around where the US was in the mid 1980s. The gap keeps gets bigger as incomes in the US are going up, whereas we are...

I had an original SR+ and on sub zero London short driving from 80-20% i was getting 100miles, i switched to a revamped LR. You must be using more like 500wh/m to get 100 in a LFP with heat pump and current weather. Its either broken or your calculating something incorrectly

Part of the problem was dealers got killed paying way too much for Tesla’s during and just after Covid, so won’t touch them anymore. They got hit 10k+ per car in many cases. They hve mot sold that many yet. There are no more Tesla’s hitting the auctions than there used to be BMW 3s etc pre EV...

To introduce functionality that doesn’t work as described is about as Musk like as you can get!!!

At current rates of depreciation that’ll be more than the car is worth!

Y LR, I am aware if the limitations of V2 etc, just never noticed any real difference in charge speeds from preheating and can’t really see any benefit. It never really hits the max, normally anyway, so battery temp does not seem to matter much. The car charges pretty quickly still anyway. Tbh...

I never seem to get the fastest charge speeds at superchargers anyway, well very rare anything close to the max. So not sure what I’m giving up with preheating. If I’ve been driving for a few hours the battery will already be quite warm, even in winter.

If its a software tweak it means the revised model Y won’t just be losing the stalks

I got referral miles for referring myself when I upgraded (and kept the existing ones)

This risk has been dealt with via build quality

This is great, i’ll be able to tell my wife to turn off the lights everytime she unlocks the car and to not park so close to the wall when she gets home

On the positive side the first two Tesla’s lost zero over three and a bit years so the fact that the final one has cratered just brings me back to scratch. And I am really looking forward to my £15k Highland in 2025! Now if I had paid full price for a 18month old 3 with 15k on the clock I would...

The combination of higher interest rates and rapid depreciation is going to make Tesla/EV leases a lot more expensive. (Oh and the insurance). At least other brands have different models and specs that differ, spreading the risk a hit wider.

180k miles! Yikes, that s a lot! How is the battery doing?

Clearly Elon today is very different from the Elon of a few years ago.The cave thing seemed to be when things cracked, down hill ever since. The reality is being the richest person in the world is misery, his mind has buckled and he is unravelling. It is a slow motion car crash. Tesla vision is...

If you are a UK driver and don’t want a refund, you’ve lucked out as all the lunatic asylums have been closed!

You can turn on sentry from The app, which raises the question would having sentry on activate the tracking? Or do you need to set a geolocation challenge based on the pics!

Ah, must be me being stupid then. It would seem to be something an update would fix and I would guess Tesla could see where it is?

But it does if you open the app to see where it is, so it is trackable.

I presume they also get a chunk back from the additional premium they charge on the CAT D repaired vehicle for the rest if its life!

The point really was is third party removes the risk of anything EV/Telsa specific, as I am wearing all of that risk for them. If I crash it I have all the costs for the damage to my car. Sure there is a performance element too, but I can insure a 911 for about a third of the price of my Y and I...

All of the excuses provided by the insurers claim that EV insurance is going up because if repair costs. Fair enough. So i will just go for third party cover so that is not an issue for them. Of someone crashes into me they have to pay, but that should not be reflected in my premium. But the...

What I found odd was that neither of us got a notification saying it was open, or it that function just for the doors and windows?

Nope, just use the phone as key

My wife went out this morning and the bonnet on the Y was open. Bit weird so I checked the camera and it turns out it opened on its own in the middle of the prior afternoon. Never happened before, wondered if anyone had this happen? I have relocated the cables to the boot!

Are there standalone third party NCD policies that will just pay out the increased insurance for a ding? As NCD protection is a very poor return. Or a insurance policy that will chase the insurer of the at fault party for full and complete financial losses, as currently this does not happen.

When my wife got knocked of her push bike, the all in legal paid by the (at fault) driver’s insurer was 800k, so I take the repair issue cost excuse with a bit of a pinch of salt. It is often not the only cost involved in a crunch. I have also not seem any data suggesting lots of Tesla’s are...

And not a very good one, as it certainly costs more than €4 and change to send you one!

That would entail driving past a policeman, which seems a pretty low probability event

Two years ago Peugeot insured my M3LR in inner London for £379, just to put things into even more painful perspective. They’ve just worked out the fuel saving and gouged (I know all insurance is up but Tesla seems more than other premium brands, even though parts problems are fairly...

They wouldn’t cover (Peugeot), inner London is bad enough already so daren’t ask anyone else 😬 Which insurers are nice?

It is cheaper to buy another can than deal with the additional insurance premium!

I did test drive ( specifically to see the suspension), it seemed ok. Similar to my 3LR which was really good. But the route was clearly gamed to take you along the smoothest roads in Britain. Also no high speed, which I think is another weakness on how the Y springs are set up (or not set up)...

Finally, bluetooth controllers for 3 & Y! :)

I sent Tesla a few emails enquiring about the parts for the suspension, to a few different mailboxes, at different service centres. And it might not surprise you to hear that I have heard exactly zippo back.

So we could easily seem some changes in Y interior before exterior refresh then, like the initial refresh of the 3. But the exterior stuff will take longer as they are totally different bits. So end of 2024 early 2025 seems most likely for that to me to bring both into line.

I never understood the parts overlap thing as pretty much everything is a different size. They look similar for sure but the Y is longer/wider. I would say its not far off the gap between a BMW 3 and 5 or an Audi A4 to 6, certainly in terms of the increase in interior space. Drivetrain, battery...

Posts like this is what make this forum so great. Super helpful. Thanks

I would hold out for the refresh on the SR that comes with a heatpump, makes a massive difference in Winter range. You’ll be looking at 100-120 miles from my experience on the one without. But if thats not a problem, great car.

I wonder how this will impact sales, as based on this forum a lot of demand was people upgrading. I did it twice. But I always expected that merry go round to stop and at that point I would just keep the car til it fell to bits (sooner than I envisaged tue ways things are rattling). Although...

Make sure you get the vent covers! If this hasn’t happened to you, get the vent covers!!!

These are the first after market alloys I have come across (for Model Y, but they do. The whole range) that actually look good, I was wondering if anyone had actually got a set and, if they had, what they thought? https://www.thenewaero.com/product/tna-razor19-smoothy/ Also wondered what the...

I don’t undersrand why the DVLA don’t operate some sort of automatic cancellation policy for stolen plates, its not as if its hard to provide new details and it would soon remove the problem as nicking plates would have a useful lifespan if a few hours and at best make it easy for the cops to...

The best thing about waiting for HW4 is the car will be a lot cheaper too! And they might have even added back parking sensors by then!

I find tyre noise is the first thing i hear, EV or ICE, rather than the engine. Never really understood the EV sneaking up and running you over fears, although obviously reversing is a problem, so UFO sound is helpful. Had not noticed the car made a noise going forward.

I think the car is like a PC, it works great when you get it, but over time it gets clogged up, bugs to fix bugs and the updates never seem to clean everything up they should do and create more conflicts. In the end with a PC you just upgrade to a new one, or just wipe it and do a clean install...

The whole comment was a bit tongue in cheek. I am fully aware of how life works! (It is still possible this is my Dad as he needs everything explaining to him.)

Dad, is that you again?

I presume this is going to be Vision beta for the next ten years? And if you scrape the front or back of the car trusting it in the interim, it will be entirely your own fault?

I think the issue is that Tesla Vision will only work with HW4.