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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Funny, you mention that. The perception of FSD in this thread versus over in the more realistic autonomous driving thread? Couldn’t be more different opinions, and perspectives. But I understand why the Rosy outlook in this thread: Elon himself said that the entire financial future of Tesla...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Of course I’ve watched the current V 11 videos. That’s why I did not even mention FSD in my post.(for same reasons that Elon apparently avoided, emphasizing FSD at investor day.)
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I’m still waiting on this Elon promise..
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    True. But also, growing global (hi, BYD) competition will continue to close the gap and diminish the massive market share stranglehold that Tesla has had for the past several years. Tesla will still lead… but won’t be the only player in town like they’ve been used to being. Add in the (over)...
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    Tesla slams into stationary fire truck. Driver killed. Police say “unclear” if AP/FSD at fault.

    Either way, not a good look for Tesla. With so many lawsuits/NHTSA investigations/crashes, etc…Easy to understand why FSD was barely brought up at the recent investor day event.
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    NHTSA opens NEW investigation into fatal AP related crash

    AP is clearly in the title of the thread
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    Autopilot slowing when passing trucks on highways

    "all human input is error". (c)Elon
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    FSD getting confused with seam sealant

    yep. I've def encountered that. Car starts going left and right (gradually) as it tries to decide whats what. Also, on I95 south of Springfield but between Fredericksburg. Those leftover temporary lane divider markings that theyve removed but have left some remnants. Same experience. I...
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    Tesla slams into stationary fire truck. Driver killed. Police say “unclear” if AP/FSD at fault.

    DETROIT (AP) — “U.S. investigators suspect that a Tesla was operating on an automated driving system when it crashed into a firetruck in California last month, killing the driver and critically injuring a passenger. The Model S was among the nearly 363,000 vehicles Tesla recalled in February...
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    12 hour, 712 mile road trip, should I do a month of FSD for $200??

    I’d file a chargeback with my card company so fast Elons head would spin
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    NHTSA opens NEW investigation into fatal AP related crash

    Many of them are seeing some sights right now: the sight of a metal toilet/sink combo and peeking through iron bars.🤣🤣
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    The Major Problem With FSD That Tesla Won’t Acknlowledge

    Where are you getting l2 only, from? “Musk has been promising that Tesla is going to make all its vehicles built since 2016 “full self-driving” through software updates. The CEO went as far as mentioning “level 5 SEA self-driving.”
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    NHTSA opens NEW investigation into fatal AP related crash

    https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-07-14/elon-musk-said-no-self-driving-tesla-had-ever-crashed And yet…. “Since 2016, NHTSA has opened more than three dozen Tesla special crash investigations where advanced driver assistance systems such as driver assistance system Autopilot were...
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    NHTSA opens NEW investigation into fatal AP related crash

    https://stocks.apple.com/AXGl_u0AzSZSkrXchi9WvEw
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Per an (unknown) mod, resubmitting this link to include mandatory commentary: “Here is a link to an article that explains a downgrade in TSLA”. https://stocks.apple.com/AP06RiM_uSJWKrxy6eKo-vg Post 404,776 has limited comments and wasn’t deleted so I assume my commentary is fine too
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    What are people that bought Full FSD doing?

    You know FSD has nowhere near met the expectations when the most positive review of it in this thread is “…the car appears to be navigating along fairly well.” That’s a LONG way from “level 5” and “will navigate on its own with no human input button nyc to la. Will even charge without human input”
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    What are people that bought Full FSD doing?

    Green light chime will be worth MAYBE 1k when it stops getting confused when it’s three lanes and the turn arrow signal confuses it when that signal is different from the signals in the non turning lanes. It might chime…might not. Random
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    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    Several YouTubers fell into that category..they knew that posting anything negative about FSD would put their invites and early access to releases, at risk..
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    Growing FSD liability could be massive.

    Is a stereotype really a stereotype if its true?
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    Has anyone taken delivery of a new Model S and opted for the steering wheel?

    LOL at being parked in a parking spot whilst someone is about to back into you...and YOU....need to leverage defensive driving..whilst parked. Some of you guys go to NO END to defend Elon's bad decisions. 🤣 🤣
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    First Tesla vehicle delivered with HW4

    lots of chatter about advanced hw4 and v11 and single stack and high res cameras and… But no ability to detect obstacles when parking and fsd under recall Talk about steps backwards
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    Major Phantom Braking Issues

    Documenting the precise time/location/conditions when it happened, then opening service tickets under warranty for it? AND filing complaints with NHTSA in parallell? THAT..is the only way this is going to get max attention it deserves.
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    Growing FSD liability could be massive.

    Do you fly in planes?
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    Poor Model Y Tesla Vison Experience

    To make excuses for Elon
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    My batphone just rang Did someone mention Elon lying about FSD? Do I need to join in on this topic as resident expert on all of Elons FSD lies? 🤣
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    What are people that bought Full FSD doing?

    If FSD did today, 100% of everything Elon said it would do (and do it well) by now? I'd 100% pay $10k cash for FSD. But for what it does today (and forseeable future)? I'd offer no more than $100 for it.
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    Tesla FSD Beta V11 May Fix the Recall Issues | TMC Podcast Clip

    I love this. A put up or shut up...mandate of sorts. If you claim to be 10x safer than a human? Put your money where your mouth is. Stand behind those words.
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    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    The bolded part. That's the point. The perception was/is that the crash is due to Tesla's FSD feature. The general public has no clue about AP vs FSD vs FSDb vs EP vs ...... It's just "FSD". So when you combine that with all of the other recent issues plaguing the FSD progress...made sense...
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    Any thoughts on when we might see a FSD beta software upgrade?

    if the rule is that everything in the recall MUST be fixed before Beta can rollout again? And that NHTSA must confirm that ALL the issues are fully fixed? YOu have a loooong wait, buddy
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    Tesla FSD Beta V11 May Fix the Recall Issues | TMC Podcast Clip

    allow me to save the phanboys some keystrokes. "but interstate uses different code stack and not city stack so if the car does that on the interstate its beta and your fault not teslas. Its the customers responsiblity to know when each stack is active or not active and whether its AP stack or...
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    Plaid 21” rear tire woes - factory defect?

    dont know if its been mentioned in this thread BUT if this has been determined to be a design/engineering fault of Tesla's, that its definitively due to the control arm design? I'd be immediately taking all of my evidence to my small claims court to recoup the cost of new set of rear tires and...
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    “It’s all a little hard to believe, and coming from Tesla and Musk, it’s hard to take any of it seriously.” https://jalopnik.com/tesla-investor-day-23-musk-master-plan-end-fossil-fuel-1850175956
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    Which is why it’s interesting in the investor thread, many wonder why TSLA went down vs up after investor day. Sure lots of great things were promised but Wall Street knows the “when” is always the wildcard with Tesla.
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    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    From their perspective : two huge lawsuits underway, NHTSA Recall targeting your most recent/latest variant of FSD, highly publicized crash in the tunnel, progress for FSD/Robotaxi nowhere close to where it was promised to be by now.. Wouldn’t you also focus on other brighter things and not...
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    Latest list https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sef-driving-not-in-top-ranked-autonomy-guidehouse-research-2023-3
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Actually you can get up to 250kw+, depending on # of coils
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    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    This is DEFINITELY a factor in those cooked safety numbers.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I mean, he does have a point. This prediction is coming from same source that predicted 1 million robotaxis on the road by end of 2020 so I dont think its unfair for someone to question Elon's future timeline predictions, when we look at his past history of meeting timelines
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Teslas are in demand, for sure. But not sure this is the guage. On my street of 10 homes, 3 have Teslas. That doesnt mean 30% of all homes in America have Teslas..
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Hmmm...scientifically speaking, this means..nothing..as it doesnt take into account total # of top talent hired over "x" period of time factored against "y" number of top talent that has left over "x" period of time, contrasted to remaining top talent. In other words, your perspective is kinda...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The reason Analysts are not giving much credence to FSD, is most likely due to the reality of Tesla/Elon's prior promises about what FSD can do, when, and how much additional revenue that would bring, and when. Add to that the recent multiple lawsuits, investigations, the recall, and well, not...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://apple.news/AbWv9_26_Seag0032aP6h-A
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    as we all know, Wall street actions are forward looking..quarter to quarter. It appears that based on info provided in the event, Wall street's expectations about factors that will impact Tesla financially in a positive manner over the next quarter, were not met. It's typical wall street.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Question: Why treat the $25k car differently than they've treated announcement timeline of Cybertruck, Roadster (where is the update on that, by the way? Im sure the investors who are awaiting their free referral roadsters would have liked at least a brief status update) and previous models?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So much all of this. Let’s be real: ALL of wall street was awaiting definitive info on the new everymans model. And Elon himself has been hyping FSD for so long and has said it’s “critical to the entire financial future of Tesla”, that it’s common sense to expect detailed updates on when it will...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    “More or less” in his terms could be quite a broad range
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    FSD reflections after 3mo of use

    I don’t even think this one is in the NHTSA recall fix it list..
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    Does any 2023 model y owner who picked up their car on February has FSD?

    You may be waiting awhile. NHTSA has to approve before that gets pushed out again…Tesla agreed that fsdb is currently unsafe and agreed to fix per NHTSA guidance https://insideevs.com/news/655030/tesla-not-shipping-fsd-beta-nhtsa-recall-fix-first/amp/