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I sort of forgot about this. I have to switch around between Daily Lists, Podcasts, Back and forth and eventually it gets up to date. Pretty bad.

Thanks everyone. No wind (the windmills were idle as usual). I was using FSD. Some good food for thought. Bottom line: In hilly country don't trust that graph. Give yourself some cushion.

It is possible, however if this is a software change, and it results in a decrease of regen, then the trip energy prediction (gray curve) should reflect the change and still give you a good prediction. Instead the prediction is off in the "optimistic" direction, not good. In my case it was...

This happened on a highway drive from San DIego to Imperial Valley over the I-8. I didn't see any dashed lines on the energy display. Oh well, thanks for the info.

2020 Model X, latest s/w (as far as I know I am on early access) 2023.44.30.8. I don't know what an MCU is but I haven't done any mods to this car. I have Daily Mixes and Podcasts. No matter what, when I start up the lists are stale. I compare the Daily Mix with my phone, and the list in the MX...

Well thanks for trying. I'd love to know the actual reason. What changed? This is a fairly new thing.

Thanks for the info and suggestions. I didn't see the "dashed out" cold reduction on regen in the energy display. And the windmills were not turning. It's a mystery.

FYI Regenerative Braking and Acceleration are both set to Standard.. Also this all happened at highway speeds.

My 2020 X (low mileage 16,000 I am orig owner) is having trouble with regenerative braking. What could cause this? I only noticed it on my last 500 mile trip.

Thanks for the suggestions. After the earlier reply I tried again and got dinged flashflash BEEBEE with my hand lightly on the wheel, etc. I might put a balaclava on and see if I notice a difference ha ha ha ha. Does my cabin camera see anything in detail???

Ha ha I guess the mods didn't like… (moderator note: if the moderators delete a post and you repost it, that’s a pretty easy way to get your account suspended)…I should have said that I am generally happy with what I have L2 Driver Assist.

Thanks! Encouraging. I don't know how to test the cabin camera so I'll see if that info is buried somewhere in TMC's millions of threads ha ha. I've never had a bit of trouble with the electronics though, and the Camera display is perfect. So far, within 30 sec I get the white glow at the top of...

I get this, and I also get that Mr. Musk is a visionary who trusts his people and what they say. What is totally cool is that he takes the heat for slipped schedules, engineering misses, and still supports his design and engineering team. That's what made Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink the successes...

Is there any hope for me and my 2020 Model X (2023.27.7 / FSD 11.4.7.3)? I have to tug on the wheel relentlessly. Just a wee bit too hard and it disconnects. Not enought and it penalizes you. Three of those and you're in jail. I've never been able to drive on the freeway even for more than an...

Yes, I'm not complaining other than being baited into thinking I'd have FSD a year after I bought my car (2020). Since then I've realized how damn hard this is, and how easy uit would have been to trust some "young-n-saavy" programmers. I give Mr. Musk lots of slack, especially with the media...

OK. I get the graphs for trips and that's the most important to me. Thanks.

As my Mom used to say "actions speak louder then words"

I have a 2020 X ... what is "older"? My energy display (both on the big screen and in the driver's screen) seems to work fine.

This is a great illustration of emotional crowd mentality.

It has never been trustworthy on unprotected left turns. The new version seems to be a lot more conservative waiting in a non-intersection 2-way facing left turn lane where the cars waiting to turn left in front of you block your view of the other oncoming cars. Before, it would try to kill you...

@mxnym Excellent report. Thanks. I already had an “unfortunate” event this morning on my first drive after the update, at the very first intersection. Navigating to destination, T-stop in a quiet residential neighborhood, excellent visibility in all directions. It made a nice smooth stop at the...

Yes, in 2 years I never set my follow distance to anything but 7. Tailgating is for chumps. Anyway the media is predictably going after Elon Musk and all of his companies now, having made an about turn after he opened up the Twitter cabal and proved the collusion between government and the media...

So “refresh” is a code word for “late model” I got it, thanks lol.

The brand new beta s/w does not have “nav on autopilot”, it just does it when you start the FSD or if it is on, when you start nav. It already tried to kill me today at a residential T-stop. After a nice stop at the stop-sign, it whipped the wheel left and right a couple of times, stomped on...

I so love my 2020 X. A friend got a new one and I don’t like it as much for some of the reasons above. I wasn’t aware of the falcon door changes but mine work perfectly. I’ve been on the beta FSD and it’s getting better but it still makes scary mistakes. But that’s for the FSD/Nav section here.

Same here all along. The Daily Mix lists seem to update sporadically at best. It is annoying because playing the Mix stars with the "wrong" song. Look at Spotify on your phone to see what the Daily Mix list actually is.... and what you see in the car is wrong (old). Still asking for the first...

@Jane4 - My experience with FSD and autopilot in challenging conditions has actually been very good. For example driving into the sun on a wet highway works well. It's hard to believe it's even possible, given that I had a lot of difficulty making out the road markings. Driving at night can also...

What? Is that the little black camera icon at the top of the display? That sends the last x seconds (or minutes) of video and some telemetry? That would be GREAT. Also if that's it, how did you find out about it? Was it in the Release Notes or ??? If that's it, I'll be thrilled to know it's...

10.69.2.3 a couple of days ago. Not once could I avoid taking control. It stopped about 40 feet before a stop sign, announced that it was going to creep, then shot out into the intersection, running the stop. It is still signalling way too late in a left turn lane, like at the far end when it...

Well I'm no more hopeful with 10.69.2.2. Nav on Autopilot, freeway, light traffic. It needed to get to the right to transition from one freeway to another. It proceeded signal right to change lanes into a lane that was ending, right into the area with the big white left arrows on the road...

I've been so skeptical over the last couple of years... 2020 MX. I got the 10.69.2 FSD beta and turned it all on, and doing Navigate on Autopilot. On the plus side the driver's display is fantastic. I think you could drive "on instruments" without looking out the window. On the minus side, it...

2020 MX still on original 12v battery. Just a reference point.

I got this today backing out of my driveway. It went away after I got to my destination, got out of the car, then came back later.

I can tell from all of this that my $10,000 spent for “FSD Fairy Tale” in Jan 2020 is still a puff of smoke. I’m actually amazed at the level of tolerance of s**t here. Just the regular autopilot + nav on auto on the freeway is dodgy. Forget it if people are passing you on the right when it’s...

Thanks for the jargon help. Now I just need to find out how to trigger this feature ha ha ha.

2020 MX FSD, not familiar with MCUs HWs whatever (WTF is all that?). Anyway the park assist came up once while backing into a space in a private parking lot, end space with a big truck next to the space on the other side. It worked OK, but it ended with the car too far off-center. I was...

Yep, the random raising of the front is annoying, as is "Park Assist Not Available". The latter happens on the freeway every few MINUTES!!! then it won't happen "for a while" (days) then you'll get another few days when it makes you CRAZY! Make it stop!

Unknown. 2020 MX. Tesla app iOS 4.0.2. No way to update. Too old for Safety Score. WTF? $10,000 and I can't even get the latest iOS app with the safety score. #teslasmokescreen PS: Apple AppStore was unaware I had an old Tesla app. This is a bug in the Tesla app submission. I uninstalled and...

I paid $10,000 for this? Should??? Right. Sorry, Detroit is already there, and their drivers don't have to double-button reboot every week or two. Wishful thinking. You and I are on the same page. Tesla is blowing smoke up our a**es. [not a happy customer for $10000 FSD in 2020]

I have 2021.32.20 as of today. A video game and surround sound update? All I want is for the Park Assist Not Available messages to go away forever!!!

It's suicide to use on the highway. I am so sick of its brain dead unsafe driving behavior. Every time I make a highway/freeway trip and use autosteer, and especially navigate on autopilot, I have to take over quite often to avoid an unsafe maneuver. Where do I start? (1) Driving in the right...

This discussion wold actually matter if it did what they promised up back in 2019. It's not even safe to use on the highway.

HA HA HA It didn't right? Grrrrr......

I wish. I got on here to add my horrible experience today. AUTO PARK CHIMES ARE OFF. I pulled off the fwy, stopped turned off the car, rebooted with the two buttons. WTF that's awful. No change. It's a damn software bug, it has become worse, and the service centers can't do anything but give you...

This is a site feedback issue. Having the models split is so bad. I have an MX, i search for an issue and end up in the M3 forum. Now what? Do I reply there and say "I actually have an MX but, like you, I have this problem, and here is what I know or don't know..." ????

My two-button reboot took "forever" after 2021.24.4. I was able to drive home with black screens. When I got out of the car and closed the door, voila! the big screen lit up. A bit later the driver's display lit up. I was getting ready to call the service center. Oh and I did it to see if I...

Getting this on the freeway!!! Whether autopilot is active or not. BEEBEEBEEBEE!!!!! (oh *sugar*!) [Park Assist Unavailable] ... WTF? Irritating. I hoped the latest s/w update to 2021.24.4 might correct it. Nope. I also have it randomly not lowering the mirrors going into reverse. I see I'm not...

Reporting back - Turning on Use HOV solved the lane changing problem. Thanks @TresLA . One down and a few unsafe driving habits to go :-)

Yes. But crossing a single wide line is also prohibited in some cases, like making an early entrance from an on-ramp, changing lanes on surface streets "too close" to an intersection, entering a gore point (though you might argue thata a gore point is a double-wide lane, just not parallel :-))...

This must have come in on a recent SW update. Thank you!! I will go out and test this afternoon! ARS doesn't answer it, so I asked a "friend" (DPS trooper), who says there are no restrictions on entering and exiting HOV. ADOT doesn't give reasons for the wide-dash, wide-solid, and double...