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Small clarification The 13ms is for all 8 cameras combined, something like ~1.5ms per cam FYI. Elon makes it sound like per camera at first but his next couple of sentences sort of clarify it. I'm also not entirely swallowing his great night vision statement, because he's not accounting for...

You can manually slide the visualization window over, I left it full screen just to show it. You can see the blind spot camera engage near the end...

The entire interface is slightly different FWIW. Icons are colored, things moved around, consolidated. Overall better I think but again, only spent 15 minutes with it so far. Definitely more than a standard dot update.

2021.44.25.6 came down for me around 7:30 EST. Haven't tested much but the ability to make the FSD visualization full screen looks cool.

I was on 10.3 until about an hour ago (10.3.1 was available yesterday but I wanted to wait 24 hours before installing). I found that the disabling FCW pretty much worked around any issues I had with the botched 10.3 version FYI. So, I enabled FSD on the way to work (as 10.3) this morning and I...

I'm seeing several reports on the forum over the last hour or two. I have 10.3.1 downloaded but I'm going to hold off until this shakes out. Devs can get in a hurry when something regresses, and you can end up with a regression of a regression of a regression. Been there. :)

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I have FS2020... Except for last week when they pushed out SIM update 6 as a mandatory update and flooded all the servers and no one could update, or even play the game for 10-12 hours depending on the features used. I'm not dissing your point, Tesla could have tested this in a more closed loop...

Just turning off FCW and/or AEB avoids the issue (that's the way to truly turn it off) - That said, too much reliance on automated testing I think. They should have done this in rings. I'd think if they gave to the "zero ring" of a few employees and long-time testers for a couple days, they...

I'm still on 10.3 - 35.5.1 started downloading yesterday then cancelled itself. When I got in the car this morning, FCW had been disabled (I assume pushed by Tesla), AEB had *not* been disabled. On my drive to work today without engaging FSD, the car behaved just fine, unlike the fiasco...

They may have pushed beta testers to public release by accident. I had 10.3 running, then a couple hours ago 35.5.1 downloading, now 35.5.1 isn't showing, so if this is what occurred then I'd expect a new update that is 10.2 in the near future? I'm sure someone is getting yelled at somewhere at...

Same thing I was thinking here... It almost sounds like someone could have phat fingered the rollback to 10.2 and instead pushed all beta testers to public release by accident; and are just noticing they did that, "ruh oh, guys fix that now..." could be what is going on here. If so and you...

I think they could have pushed public to beta testers by mistake.

Well, right now they are kicking you back to public non-beta, but "this just in..." that they just pulled 35.5.1 too, so maybe they really did do what I mentioned here: Wiki - MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences - starting on Friday, October 8th, 2021

I'd hold off for now unless you must drive and want to avoid any danger. Then again, word on the street is 35.5.1 is now also unavailable.

Elon: "Guys I gave you one simple thing to do...". :D :D

It almost sounds like someone could have phat fingered the rollback to 10.2 and instead pushed all beta testers to public release by accident; and are just noticing they did that, "ruh oh, guys fix that now..." could be what is going on here. If so and you install the public 36.5.1, and that is...

Yes, I used FSD on the way out of my neighborhood but disengaged as it was annoying and I wasn't really in a beta test mood at the time, at least not that cluster **** of 10.3. :D On the way back, I decided to just drive manually and that's when I got the crazy FCWs in a row for no real reason.

On my Beta 10.3 drive this morning, I was getting multiple unwarranted FCWs without FSD engaged. Since this latest push to 2021.36.5.1 is the public non-beta version, there's a chance there is a problem in 10.2 and 10.3 considered dangerous enough to pull both, and maybe doing a full revert to...

There is this... https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/6046505/

LOL, I like that first sentence about getting kicked out of beta. Kicked out for what? Putting up with a terrible beta release? :D :D I'm about two more dangerous FSD events from kicking them out.

Yes, same here, all FSD and even regular ole cruise control is now unavailable right after all the weird behavior. I emailed the beta team so they know it's the car not me (as if they read them).

I just got two or three consecutive FCWs within 10 seconds @40 MPH for a car that was 100s of feet in front of me (FSD was not engaged). So far in front, it was almost out of range of the display on the screen. Then about 2 minutes later I got a "take control immediately, road departure...

It also happens with non-highway for me, to the point it's becoming frustrating. I'd not commented that much thinking it was me but no, it's FSD. Last night, for the n'th time, I was already in the right turn lane to make a right and out of nowhere it tries to change to the left lane. It knew it...

Congrats!

Yes, Android here and the sideloaded app + 100 score at the time of the counting. It dipped to 97 just after midnight last Friday, so I think I came extremely close to missing it.

I knew I'd get dinged for that. :) The weather cooled yesterday, so that's why the one tire went a pound or so under the threshold.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/13/22724171/nhtsa-tesla-letters-fsd-beta-autopilot-recall-emergency-vehicles Much of that article is about why the September fix, concerning parked emergency vehicles, wasn't handled as a formal recall, but the below caught my eye as "over-reachy" concerning 10.2:

I'm not gonna if I can help it, I immediately disengaged. I don't give it that much chance to screw up before I take over and report it.

It wasn't 100% beside me, maybe 1/2 the other car, so had I let it go it may have been inches? I'm assuming I have no dashcam of it but will check.

I know right? :) See my previous posts where I kind of thought the same but this one gave me a little faith back. To be fair, there were a credible number of disengagements in some ambiguous situations. The main annoyance this trip was it just seems to have this urge to change lanes in city...

Drove across town for a massage today and a few of the FSD turns were much better and more acceptable. Such as the one below, to be fair it did have it's own arrow/right-of-way green light but either way it was darn near perfect in busy traffic. I also noticed it does much better with green...

I'm not sure I watched videos that closely before but for me, though having my hands on the wheel amplifies things.... it's the obvious unsureness that results in jerky movements. FSD is surely having a difficult time deciding what to do. Keep in mind the majority of this comes down to turns...

I'm on board but I hope Tesla gets a lot of good data from our doing this, it's kind of annoying and frustrating to test/use. The hesitancy for right and left turns is way too long if there is any traffic behind me. It will tick off other drivers. Seems like most turns have a small jerk to one...

Just realized I got the email/beta this morning. Took it for a drive, man, that was a bit scary. It's beta alright but felt a bit like an alpha. It's worst when it suddenly gets confused and starts toggling "should I go here or there?" and jerking the steering left and right with sudden...

Let's be more clear in clarifying "people that" and "you" since what you described isn't me. I am sincere in what I stated. If I have to feel like I'm chasing the score, just to get the beta, I don't really want it enough to do so. I had the cash for FSD at the time and added it to my order last...

I've gotten a good day and a half of driving in thus far. I'm a safe driver anyway, I'm at 99 and that's due to someone cutting me off where my safe/defensive driving kept me from hitting them. And because of that, I'm not really chasing the score to get the beta. My take is my normal safe...

I used APK Mirror and updated to 4.1 without issue FYI. I did have to give the APK Mirror app permission to install untrusted apps. I also heard you can search Google Play Store since 4.1 is a separate update that doesn't show up as an update to the Tesla app you already have installed.

FWIW, my FSD has almost always choked in some form at that interchange. Usually I'm coming from Pineville to get on 77 South and at the last minute it and suddenly tries to swerve to the northbound exit/entrance (the dotted line as the lanes diverge seem to confuse it). It's late enough and bad...

A couple weeks ago I was backing out of someone's driveway and turned short. There were small 'boulders' lining the driveway say 8-12" in diameter that were somewhat round but sort of sharp an pokey. One caught up under the right front bumper in front of the tire (because the wheel was turned...

You could over-engineer the crap out of it like I did for my wife (non-Tesla) using an Arduino and LED matrix. :D

Normally, I come to 100% complete stop, but in this instance, I figured he'd get even more impatient, so I let it roll through about ~1 MPH. Due to stop sign running at high speeds, I've been conditioned to keep an eye on drivers behind me in this neighborhood. I was confident he might want to...

Point taken, I can't be truly angry because my M3 didn't get hit, so I'm pretty happy. :)

Thank you! Yes exactly, in this neighborhood I drive the posted speed limit and physics says I can't turn into my driveway 90 degrees at 25 MPH. Everyone else... pay attention, you guys are as bad a readers as that person behind me is a driver. :D

Again, my house is the 2nd house after that turn, I have to slow down to pull into it. I kept going straight and circled back around because I shot past my house avoiding that dumba$$. If you look closely, right after I accelerate, the house with the gray truck and open garage is my house.

BS, the speed limit is 25 and it's my driveway I was pulling into dummy. The other thing is some here, go through that stop sign @35 MPH without even slowing and are going to eventually kill someone - he would have ran it, except I was in his way.

I'm still annoyed since it just happened but the instant torque was a huge plus. He slid 10 or 12 feet (tire marks are still in front of my house) so chances are he would have hit me though I can't tell for sure from the video. I was already watching him as people tend to run that stop sign and...

Ah, the harness would explain why.

I wonder why they removed the frunk, on mine it was a simple matter of removing the wheel well cover, 10 minute job. I know because I replaced it myself with an ebay version while waiting weeks for the replacement.