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This is absolutely how FSD should be positioned. I think Elon and Cathy vastly overestimate the number of people who will be willing to turn their cars over to the masses. And to date, I've not seen any presentation on exactly how Robo-utopia would work - who will charge the cars between fares...

I've frankly grown weary of the Robotaxi hype. Sure FSD is a big part of that, but why has no one talked about the business model? How will the cars get charged during the day? Who'll clean them? How will my white interior not become a grafitti magnet? What about insurance and liability? What...

Unfortunately, if you have a NEMA 14-50 outlet and use a Mobile Charger as your level 2, PSEG won't give you any charging credit. It has to be a Wall Connector that can send data to PSEG. Not a fan of the constant pinging, though. Is this still an issue?

At first I didn't like the idea (of the 1yr lockdown on resales), but scalpers scalp - just look at what happened with Nvidia RTX4090 cards. No one had them but the people selling them for 2x their price. I don't know if a resale prohibition would hold up in court, but Tesla could have just said...

I tried to get into the off-peak discount, for the few bucks it would save each month, but the documentation requirements didn't fit my use case (14-50 outlet installed years ago and using a Mobile Charger as my Level 2 device). They wanted permit copies for "charger installation", receipt for...

Also in for one, though I think it would have been better to fill the bottles with Kool-Aid. :p

It is interesting that Elon reduced the purchase price of F$D (by 20%) after saying he wouldn’t when asked directly on an earnings call. No one in their right mind would buy it at $15k given it’s current state and lack of transferability. I wish other software upgrades would occasionally go on...

Agreed. I guess I was sleeping at the wheel and missed this news. I specifically recall Elon on an earnings call, when asked about an FSD price reduction, saying NO - it’s cheap at $15K 🙄 because everyone want to turn their car over to the masses to be abused like a NYC taxi. I had FSD on my...

The closest analog is trying to change the radio volume (or the Voice Assist) while the wheel is turned (perhaps when parked or stopped on a curved road). Is the wheel turned 180º, 270º, just 90º? Forget about when the wheel is turning. Taking the indicators off the stationary stalk is just silly.

We never use keys. Enter and exit through garages, which have powered openers with battery backup. Haven’t touched a physical key in years.

Lucky you! I bought my Y on the last day in June just before the “one-time FSD transfer” started. I got 3500 Tesla credits for loyalty, but the app requires 10,000 credits for the three month FSD trial. I’m going to redeem my credits for 500 Supercharger miles plus four cybertruck raffle tickets.

Big pluses: improved range, ventilated front seates, quieter, ambient lighting control, at least one new color. Big minuses: stalkless steering column, price increase. Meh: body redesign (still looks like a VW beetle coming towards you). For me, rear screen would never get used.

Geez...if us HW4 owners need to wait for FSD to be "working super well", it's likely to take a lot longer than 6 months. Remember the axiom - "Take the square of Elon's time estimates and halve your expectations". So I'm guessing FSD will be working on HW4 in 36 months, but will still have...

That's how I'm playing it. Bought a truckload of ATM puts that I'll ride down to the 200 day. Get through the last of August any maybe get a Cybertruck bounce in September.

Shhh....I can see the Benzinga news story now: "NY Tesla rear ended by distracted Mazda driver. NTSB investigating if FSD was at fault." :rolleyes: Seriously, two Teslas in and nothing worries me more than getting into ANY type of collision. I drive the cars like they're made of glass. Good...

Well, good luck with the repair, or the claim. I hope it works out for you. I have to say, accident repair is my biggest fear having owned two Teslas. Range anxiety, flat tires, car fires, phantom braking, etc. are nothing compared to the apparent nightmare of getting one of these fixed. It's...

LOL. Exactly. This is a fad that I hope wears out soon (wheels that look like they're covered in brake dust and cheap black trim, associated with base model cars). A neighbor of mine has 2020 black 3 that is stunning with the silver trim and wheels. I traded my white 3 of the same year in on a...

I don’t know, I can somewhat relate (on a low budget perspective) to what I think the OP was saying. I’ve owned quite a few “European sport sedans”, all with manual transmissions, with gobs spent on tuning, yet the Tesla quickly became my favorite- to everyone’s surprise. Instant, silent power...

I would have preferred to keep what I paid for, despite its flaws. But I would not buy it again. Simple as that.

Much ado about nothing, but we sure didn't need this today. Let's face it, we get a 3% drop if Benzinga reports Elon has an untied shoelace and may potentially trip.

Welcome! I wouldn’t make my decision based on FSD alone (or at all). FSD is likely to run just as badly on HW4 as it did on HW3. 😜

BTDT. More than once I flew a little too close to the sun and got burnt, usually on the upside (selling CCs) just before a huge run-up.

Owning a Tesla is like being married to a Supermodel who uses embarassingly bad grammar. You tend to obsess on what's wrong and think, "Oh WHY can't you just be perfect?!" Through three years of ownership, my Tesla never went in for service, was an absolute blast to drive, and allowed me to do...

This trading day was just 4 hours too long. At least my ITM -p265's for tomorrow popped their head above water long enough to get out with decent gains. Also sold some 280CCs expiring tomorrow just before the afternoon slide. Those should be safe. Just a small silver lining to an otherwise...

I have the opposite experience - the blower stays on too high for too long after it's comfortable. Even if on "LO"/Auto. And some idiot in the supply chain thought putting a parts sticker on the inside of duct was a good idea (or he hated Tesla owners), because at any speed other than the lowest...

My portfolio whenever this guy opens his mouth...

This has long been my problem with FSD/AP. Who knows, maybe AI can solve it, but with nearly 5 decades of driving, I can see problem drivers and situations develop by reading the "body language" of cars in traffic - much better than AP, which seems to have a very short view of the road. I no...

Always clear as mud, right? My Fremont MYLR was built in June and delivered in June and has matrix lights and HW4. Vin is F8015xx.

Was holding 10x 7/28 -p265 going into earnings and was too greedy/lazy to take profits when it flirted with 300. Feeling better about that today (along with picking up shares @258). But then there's the damn FED coming up...

Fellas…don’t drink and drive. 😜 Problem solved.

Only a piker has a single hole to throw money into. :p I try to keep several bottomless pits filled with money on a rotating basis - motorcycles, swiss watches, guitars and one boat. And there's always the go-to: hookers and ****. 🤪

It is funny that the stock was pretty flat after the numbers came out after the bell. And then came the call...geez.

I recently switched from a HW3 2020 M3 to a HW4 2023 MY and driving my car is a cacophony of beeps - every car, bush, bicycle within 3 ft at any speed causes constant proximity alerts. Stopping at a red light when a car pulls next to me. Entering my driveway. Pulling into the garage. Exiting a...

Of course this offer comes one month after I traded in my 2020 Model 3 w/FSD for a Model Y without it. I did get some bump on the trade from Tesla. They offered $3500 more than the best offer I could get from Carvana and the others I tried, perhaps because of FSD or the end of quarter push...

When I had a 3, I couldn’t take it to an automatic car wash because the factory wheels stuck out further than the rubber tire. The metal guide would have chewed them up. Swirl marks don’t really bother me. It’ll never be a museum piece, but I hate chewed wheels. I learned the two bucket wash...

Sometimes I drive with no music on because, well, the Apple music implementation is flaky and sometimes doesn't want to play. I have noticed the booming road noise when going over bumps in the road. Hasn't bothered me enough to look into it, but I'll search for the thread people have referenced...

I thought all the MYLR cars were only coming out of Fremont, but I am no expert. I took delivery of a Fremont MYLR in late June, built in early June. Mine was (and I believe all are now) HW4. Build quality was vastly improved over the M3LR I bought in 2020. As much as I wanted to be SURE ahead...

There's no replacement for displacement range in an EV. I'd definitely go with the LR for convenience and resale value. You'd be surprised how the battery drains much faster than you think. A home charging setup would be high on my list. I only use superchargers on long road trips. The other...

I want to love it, but I just can't. 25 years ago, my son (in Kindergarten) drew a car that is almost identical. Basically a door stop wedge with wheels. It hung on our refrigerator for weeks. On the positive side, at least it's not another derivative of the other models.

How about when one uses Summon in a parking lot? (I kinda doubt anyone really does). I can imagine frightened shoppers rolling shopping carts in front of the driverless car that is rolling on its own. But I’ll go on record as being against any FSD warning lights.

Geez - what hit you - a pickup? The Y is fairly high in the back and the strike zone is large. I’d be shocked if it wasn’t a total loss. Curious about the details leading up to the crash.

I’ve traded in two cars with Tesla (one a Jeep and the other a Model 3LR with FSD). Was surprised that the offers were competitive. In the case of the 3, Tesla’s offer was $3600 more than Carvana. My last delivery (a week ago) went like clockwork. I was out in 10 minutes after I inspected the...

Geez. That sucks. I know when pulling into my garage, next to a workbench, the sensors (USS on my 3 or camera only on my Y), go nuts, so I kinda have gotten to ignore them in those close settings. I think the 2020 had an option to make them less sensitive. I can't find it on the 2023.

I just picked up my 2023 June-build, Freemont-factory MYLR. It has HW4, but the only way I knew was when I actually saw the car. I would have gone for the MYP but for the lowered suspension. I have a hideous angle on my driveway apron and my Model 3 scraped its tail every day, so that was a...

I use my Mobile charger as a wall charger with the NEMA 14-50 adapter. I noticed that Tesla doesn't include them any longer, so when I traded in my 2020 Model 3 for a Y, I held on to mine. They didn't ask if I included it (actually, they never really looked at my car). If I had no charger at...

MYLR MSM 5 seats White and black interior Induction wheels Tow hitch OD: 12 June 2023 ODD: June - July Manufactured: June 2023 Actual DD: 24-June-23 VIN: PF801 Location: Princeton, NJ HW4 + matrix headlights verified

Telsas remind me of "A Very Brady Movie" - where Mike Brady had one design concept (his house) and everything he designed after that looked like another version of the same thing (gas station, bank, office building). Let's face it - while Telsa has the tech, their cars are pretty frumpy on the...

Disappointing that these issues still exist. I put up with them on my 2020 M3LR, but plan to be pretty picky when I pick up my MYLR this weekend. It amazes me that the concept of aligning body panels continues to vex the assembly line teams. Remember the old Lexus ball-bearing commercial and...

Well, he's right - it's not great. I bought FSD just before the price increase from $8K to $10K (October 2020) when Elon was promising beta release to all by EOY 2020 and production release to follow shortly thereafter. Early progress was encouraging, but it was operating at maybe a 1 sigma...

That implies someone actually checked something pre-delivery. I had the same issue with my M3 and found out after I got home that the passenger side repeater camera was dead. I scheduled an appointment (this was during Covid) and was told the part was 8 weeks backordered. I found a replacement...