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I have a 2022 Model S refresh. It’s at 125 miles and I don’t have a way to plug it in. Any concern with going on a 6-day vacation? I’m concerned I will come back and it will be at 0; don’t know what the daily drain is. Thanks!

I'll note that Tesla advertised autosteer on city streets as coming "later this year" when selling their cars. Perhaps that influenced Tesla to release autosteer on city streets this year?

It’s time to give up on FSD altogether. Come back to it later when someone has figured out generalized AI. Possibly in our lifetimes.

Just one more year! They will get it right! Have faith! Lol

It’s about time you all learned the truth: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-10-06/even-after-100-billion-self-driving-cars-are-going-nowhere?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews&leadSource=uverify%20wall

The class action was bought by a plaintiff who paid $5,000 extra for “full self driving” and never received full self driving. Your post has nothing to do with that. I’m totally satisfied with my car and at the same time think that Tesla and Elon are liars about FSD and anybody who purchased...

I think the most likely result is that anyone who purchased FSD will get the entirety of their money returned to them. To be honest, I can’t even imagine another result. There is no defense for Tesla here. I predict Tesla settles for that result as opposed to litigating and opening themselves...

You don’t need to go to Elon’s statements. When I bought a car in 2021, the website itself said that FSD — auto steer on city streets — was coming later in 2021. If I believed that were true, I would have bought it, but I knew it was false so I didn’t pay the $10k. Tesla’s best defense at...

I was aware of his statements when I was considering whether to buy FSD for $10k last year. It quickly became apparent that Elon Musk is a perpetual liar so I discounted his statements and dropped FSD from my order. The car (model S refresh) has been great. The lying nonsense about FSD and...

I mean, is this even 50% of the way there? Driving satisfactorily 90% of the time seems like 5% of the way there to me. None of the hard problems have been solved. The hard problems are not how to stay in a lane, stay behind the car ahead of you, and stop at red lights and stop signs. The...

honestly speaking, I don’t even know what the defense would be. Can you imagine what the emails of employees working on FSD say? Pretty sure they don’t say that there will be robotaxis in 2019.

From my perspective, it doesn't matter whether they use lidar, radar, sonar, particle beams, magnetic waves, ultrasound, etc. The problem is they're never in our lifetimes going to make software competent to handle all the rare and unpredictable occurrences that the human brain can handle...

I've been locked out of AP multiple times when I was completely paying attention, because I was watching the road instead of the display panel and my hands weren't gripping the yoke tightly enough. Yes, I know there's a warning sound, but I sometimes miss that for whatever reason. I wish there...

Generally, you're right that I get locked out because I accelerated to a higher speed (e.g., to give another car room to merge in). But the speed does not need to be as fast as you are suggesting. It can be very low on some roads. Regardless, there is no reason to lock me out of autopilot for...

I've had phantom braking a few times -- overpass, rain splashing, (I think) glare from the sun. It's not so bad. It's a good reminder that the computer has no intelligence whatsoever so you need to be watchful at all times. The idea that this thing will be driving around on its own any time...

Weird how such a smart guy can be so dumb about FSD. There will be no Level 5 FSD in the foreseeable future. Not next year, not in ten years. 0% chance. The fundamental problem is: the computer doesn't understand what's happening around it and cannot make safe decisions in innumerable...

I do like auto lane change for this reason. I figure I will just buy autopilot for one month any time I'm going on a long trip so that I can have auto lane change. The rest of the FSD features are garbage, as others have noted. Charging $10k for this garbage is shameful.

I want to be able to make the car speak remotely and wink the lights remotely. Thanks. also — it would probably be pretty easy to create an automated light show that responds to any input music. I used to see screensavers do this 20 years ago.

I think the audio system is excellent. It’s rekindled my interesting in listening to new music because the quality is so high.

It works. Unfortunately, the noise that it cancels is just a small fraction of the noise from driving.

I don’t get the controversy. The yoke took about one day of getting used to. Since then I have forgotten about it. All these things that are supposedly hard with a yoke are not hard at all. I also like the buttons on the yoke, with the exception of the horn, which should be a big target, not...

The irony is that every time I get locked out of autopilot it is because autopilot was doing a bad job and I needed to make a quick fix, often for safety purposes.

I bought a FSD subscription just to try it out. I think it is garbage. Autopark is so bad that it is embarrassing for Tesla to have released it. The “navigate on autopilot” feature has no value. It is more relaxing for me to identify the lane changes; the computer does a poor job. (I...

My take is: who cares? Tesla hasn’t been able to program autopilot to handle two merging lanes in a sane, sensible matter. The fundamental problem is that the computer is stupid. That’s not going to change any time soon. It’s good at identifying fixed lanes and staying X feet behind the car...

Thoughts are: Car looks terrific and drives well. MSLR max acceleration is much faster than is useful / safe for any ordinary driving purpose. Yoke is very comfortable. Took some practice to get used to winding parking garages (but became easy when I learned to use an upside down yoke...

I know. It amazes me that they would prominently put The Witcher III in so many advertisements and then not have it in the car. Not that I have any desire whatsoever to play video games in my car (especially an epic game like that one).

False advertising is Tesla's MO. They see no problem advertising that the $100k car they're selling has ANC and will be delivered in February/March and then delivering a car without ANC in November. The Tesla fanboys don't see a problem either. But it's bullshit and it's illegal and...

Yeah, right now the trunk space has a large depression where we can store stuff (we put a medium-sized cooler there, and there is enough room for another). But it would be nice to have a flat cover, both for appearances and so that luggage can lay flat. I was told to put in a service request...

For what it's worth, I have noticed no flaws whatsoever in my 2022 Tesla Model S. I haven't gone looking for flaws. But I did look at the paint when I received the car and saw no blemishes.

Thanks. Yes, that makes sense. Those things are missing. In theory, Tesla is supposed to notify me when they come in. In practice, I doubt Tesla will be able to keep track of this.

By the way, I didn’t mention that they delivered my car without “a few missing accessories”—namely floor mats, load floor cover, and parcel shelf. What are load floor cover and parcel shelf?

Well, the lack of communication during the 10-month wait was outrageous, and they flat out lied about when the car will be delivered, so I lack respect for Elon and Co. I will also note that they delivered the car three hours before my scheduled delivery period when I was not home, without any...

The car is really great. It actually exceeded expectations.

most condos allow charger installation. Many apartments (particularly those in the price range of folks who buy Teslas) have shared chargers

someone has to balance out 2021plaid’s endless positivity, and I have selflessly accepted the charge.

They have to produce quickly because they have a huge backlog of orders dating back to January when they lied and said the car was in production and would be delivered in February/March. They don’t need a quality control manager. They need to stop lying and to complete the development of...

something else Tesla lied about at the time of sale.

They are supposed to deliver mine tomorrow, roughly nine months after the estimated delivery date of February/March that they gave when they sold me the car in January. The car had better be pristine or I am sending it back. Elon and Tesla disgust me.

Does the published data compare freeway driving with AP on and AP off? Or is the published data a phony comparison of freeway driving with AP on versus driving on all streets, including surface streets where accidents occur more frequently? Given Tesla's general lack of ethics, I'm going to...

"FSD's earliest adopters." LOL. How pioneering of you all to pay for something that doesn't exist.

I've always said that fools and their money are soon parted regarding folks who buy FSD. But now it's fair to say that fools and their lives' savings (if not their own lives) are soon parted. The fact is that FSD is extremely dangerous and nowhere near being useful. Tesla can't even get basic...

I hope you all agree with me now. Tesla management, from Elon down, are shits, frauds, and liars.

Fools and their money.

My proposed lawsuit does not involve the contract that has the arbitration clause. The legal theory is that Tesla fraudulently touted that its toy driving software was "full self driving" and "coming soon," when in fact Tesla knew that the software has nothing close to full self driving...

I am not going to provide legal advice. I don't know the relevant law. What someone should discuss with a lawyer is: Consumers potentially could bring a class action against Tesla for false advertising. For example: Clarifying Standing In False Ad Cases At 9th Circ. | Article | Law360 |...

rxlawdude's legal advice: It's lawful to take money for a product/service, provide a false and objectively baseless estimate of when you will provide it, and never provide that product/service or give the money back so long as you have a caveat in the sales contract saying you aren't sure when...

It would be appropriate to submit Tesla's fraud to the FTC. So far, the FTC's focus has been on Tesla's false description of its incompetent driving software as "full self driving." More focus needs to be on the fact that Tesla has had the audacity to SELL this deadly software yet not provide...

What they need is a Common Sense Department. The Chief of Common Sense would tell Elon: Given that we haven't developed FSD yet, we shouldn't be selling it yet. Also, we should not be telling customers that FSD is "coming later this year" or "coming soon." Also, we should not be treating our...

Say what you want. I’m happy with my decision to cancel my purchase of FSD for $10k. I made that decision several months after my Model S refresh was supposed to arrive and it became apparent that Tesla never had any intent or ability to deliver the car on the date they represented to me. I’m...

All hail the Technofraud!