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Ok, I am starting to get your point ! Now , how to compare these 2 "öptions" ???? Call Spread: 1. Investment : about -72 debit 2. Max return: about 2400 3. Prob. and BE are same 4. Volume : higher than Put Spread 5. Max loss: -72 6. ROI : about 33X Put Spread: 1. Investment ...

Ok, i compared the put spread and the call spread on the calculator and on optionstrat . 1. The puts BOTH have much lower volume , lots of them have volume of 0 ! 2. Profit seems to be 100% , vs 3300% on the call spread. 3. Lets add in the additional 1800 : still about 200 % vs 3300 %...

Alternatively, you can do a put spread for a credit and recieve premium now which the account needs to keep to cover the $2,500 at risk, but you can use some of that to buy other positions. Like 2 shares of TSLA which would gain an additional $1,800+ if the options expire OTM. Ok, will look...

maybe you could join on the other tread if you dont'mind ? Have some more ideas and questions ;-)

Sorry , hit the wrong button on the keyboard so the chart does not display the values in between ; i mean is this a linear scale from 1600 profit to 2427 profit ? example 26 dec : 1600 27 dec : 1700 28 dec : 1800 etc. Meaning : depending on the volatiliy in the last 2 week, i...

If the stock went from 1825 to 1800 on the day of exipry, your position goes from max profit to max loss. Ok, i am trying to visualize what that could mean , and i am looking now at TSLA for the last 12 months . I see gigantic volatility . That means i would have to take a "virtual...

Sorry , was under the assumption that you were also following the other thread , where i mention my strategy ....

Understood , 2 consecutive ones would return max 4X . ( also after 2 years !) . However , after 2 years , with the link you sent me(TSLA Credit Spread calculator ) , it would be Max return on risk: 3324.7% (1656% ann.) ( according to the chart !) . this looks like a > 30X return after 2...

Ok, understood ! Ok ! thanks for the link , super ! After carefully studying this chart , my conclusion is : 1. Waiting until expiration is the best thing to do , according to the chart ! ( if SP > 1855 at exp. then profit is max) 2. BUT you wrote (😉) If you are off by one strike the wrong...

Ok, seems reasonable ! 👍 Ok, that is why i set the bar "low" ( :) ) at 1800/1825 . Assuming that will be the case , then : due to time value, you only get the max payout near/at expiration (or massive overshoot of the strike) Ok, i see 3 possibilities from here: 1. wait until exp. NO ...

Thanks Mongo , here is a follow up question on Q1: Q1: What is your opinion on this "strategy" from above ? Assumptions: 1. TSLA will go to SP > 1800 , before jan 2024 ( bear case) 2. Make the strike - spread as small as possible , relative to the option spread price Q2 : So why start the...

You are right on TW i can set / lock a price . However , say i set a lock in the morning , and the order gets filled in the afternoon , and TSLA drops in between . My locked price was based on the price in the morning ! What gives ???

Thanks Mongo , the brokerage is TW, and I (wrongly ) assumed the listed midprice was THE price .... 😏 . This means you never know the contract price when buying options ? Or does it depend on the brokerage ?

Hi , i did not see your post until now , i posted here on the TMC , here is the link: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/6327313/ 👍

Hi , i have 2 follow up questions : Q2: the 1800 has a large volume , and the 1825 only volume of 3 , is that why this is relatively cheap ? Q3: I there any risk with low volumes ? ( meaning : as soon as it hits 1825 , i would try to close the contract , instead of waiting until 2024 jan.

Hi , in the above post , it is listed as mid 0.72 , so 72 USD , my bad ... , rest is still the same

HI , new to the TMC , and having studied TSLA and the Options tutorials , i have a question : want to buy bull call spread / call debit spread , it is listed at 71 USD , exp. date is januari 2024. The spread is at 1800 and 1825 . IF TSLA is above 1825 , the theoretical gain is about...