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I've gotten 2 or 3 completely false defeat device complaints (I don't have one) to which I immediately yank the wheel to disconnect and then leave them some spicy swearing as a comment. That's annoying but not a daily issue, my more daily problem is I do like to relax by driving with both hands...

The seems backward: the recall was for non-fsd autopilot which (until this patch) didn't look at your face while driving and didn't nag *all the time* (as I understand it reading the release notes). So this will remove the ability to use old-Autopilot w/o continuous nagging on the freeway, but...

I found that reinstalling is also a great way to get rid of the upgrade nag (also turn off wifi so it doesn't redownload overnight), say if you don't want features removed and don't intend to let it update again for a while.

I decided I didn't want the 'enhanced more aggressive' (per the release notes) nags on old Autopilot (which is what I use for long trips instead of FSD, which false nags *continuously* on straight freeways, even with all the right kinds of torque and staring like a zombie directly ahead) and I...

The continous nagging really makes it a bear to try to be a good beta tester and use it frequently. It used to be much better, now its so bad I won't drive on the freeway cross country with it, I flip it back to regular AP and put tape over the camera and it works much better. I do know about...

I have the same issue, its way too 'assertive' esp when starting out from a stop into a right turn. I set mine to 'only necessary lane changes' and 'chill' at the start of every drive. One problem I have a tiny bit of control over is: it turns into neighborhood streets and leaves the speed set...

You nailed exactly the issues I've noticed from 11.3.6 to 11.4.2. Mine gets really crazy sometimes when it realized it went into a turn lane and tries to 'fix' the error (swerving hard left and right at 50mph). It seems lots of folks are complaining about these issues so its probably on docket...

When you use the wheel button to change it (as mentioned above) it changes it, driving eyes off this makes sense but if you want to just see where you are its confusing. My experience has been it stays at chill (where I last left it) after each drive. What is annoying to me is the 'minimal lane...

It would be helpful when the system decides to go bonkers and scream at you about anything if the reason stayed up for more than 2-5 seconds (one way or another). Frequently I'm driving with FSD off and change lanes (with blinker) and it loses it *sugar* scaring the crap out of everyone - but I...

Agreed, its understandable that pushing 3GB to everyone is going to be costly - but it would be appropriate with human interaction (hit a button in the UI that says 'download over premium connectivity please this time'). I suspect a very tiny % of folks would use that so it would be similar to...

I had this problem in spades on the relatively featureless terrain in eastern colorado last year on 10.69, every couple of minutes a panic brake with blue sky, no cars, etc.

How do you force a strike by disengaging? I disengage multiple times per drive, frequently when it nags for hands on wheel and my hand is on it and putting just not enough torque - I just yank the wheel hard to force it to disengage so I can report their nag sucks. If any sort of disengagement...

I saw this behavior on a newer freeway in WV (35 near the ohio border), every 1/2 mile or so the speed would reset to 25. No form of AP or FSD was usable as within a minute it would reset the speed. This has been like this for at least 2 years, with the more recent FSD beta it no longer tries to...

I've been forcibly yanking the wheel and disengaging everytime it nags when I already have my hand or hands on the wheel. I figure at least that way there will be some sort of feedback the system isn't working for me. Its pretty tiring holding exactly enough assymetric torque to stop the nags...

The comments on the NYT article were interesting. I'm with a lot of the commenters that I generally like having a big screen in the cockpit, but mostly I want to use it for map and instrumentation. I really don't want a cockpit encrusted with physical buttons for functions that are almost never...

I don't like voice control. In its present form its not very good at recognizing the intent of what I'm saying even though its fine decoding the sounds into words, its also pretty laggy. If I want the wipers on right now voice is too slow. You would think understanding variations of commands...

With 11.3.6 I had a couple of events in a similar vein: picking completely the wrong lane and not even trying to make a turn shown on the nav, and on another occasion just blowing through a red light like it wasn't there even through it was shown on the screen and nav showed us going straight...

FSD beta is a hobby project to invest test time in for fun but its a burden and not something I would use outside of testing (whenever I drive alone basically). Its unpleasant and occasionally terrifying and requires a lot more attention than normal driving, I can't really use it with other...

The one thing that actually irritates me isn't the technology (its beta, its supposed to be a mess); its that you can't go back to either the last version that was working well or to some arbitrary version in the past you saved. I understand there are some versions that have recalls they won't...

In my mostly suburban and freeway driving (FSD beta) the only significant negative changes I noticed going to vision were: 1) the strategy for slowing down when coming up on stopped traffic changed from 'slow down well ahead of time then safely close the gap' to 'scream up at full speed limit...

I'll second the jerkiness, it still saves me a ton of mental energy (and I just ignore people cutting in front of me if I can) but I won't use it in stop and go with passengers, its nausea inducing. This is using the 'highway stack' in theory, I keep reading its still the old code but when I...

Polls are hard. The two most common problems I have aren't listed: 1) since 10.2 when on FSD beta (city street mode) if going over 40 or so it will accelerate toward a red light not too far ahead with cars stopped then slow agressively (but ultimately safely) to get to 0mph a exactly a couple...

I've noticed this same thing on 12.2, I just have to sit there holding the pedal down to not be a nuisance in traffic or disengage and reengage autopilot/fsd.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I got my MY in early 21 and at that point what they claimed I was getting for the $10K they have "delivered" on (one could argue that the parking stuff is a demo stunt and mostly useless but it does meet the description in the purchase docs and manual). I...

They have delivered what they promised when I bought it. I'm happy to be in the actual Beta but nowhere in my purchase documents did they say or imply that I was buying access to be a beta tester. While I think they should be more transparent with their beta testers on what's going on (for good...

I've thought about this as well, I think the other 'party trick' features (like smart summon) have probably just been on the back burner as they concentrate on the core FSD. I don't think we can use the lifecycle of a sort of edge case feature like smart summon as a roadmap for how the general...

Their 3rd party browser code probably allows for a proxy under the covers, if they exposed the proxy settings one could point the browser at any of many parental (or other) proxies and they wouldn't have much work to do. It would be nice to proxy for other reasons (stripping ads from the...

I love the tech and I love testing/reporting/exploring the edges of the beta city streets feature, IMO its a lot further along than you might assume based on all the complaining in various social media and is cool as hell -- and 100% needs 100% of your attention if its engaged. The way they...

Something very similar happened to me on 10.7 or thereabouts. Driving down a divided highway and the visualization froze, then started flashing sort of randomly and AP disengaged with a lot of complaining. It came back on its own after about a minute.

For me the most stress inducing part is the stone cold radio silence from Tesla on all things related to fsd beta. I don't expect to be paid (other than by my own fun) but some coordination with the beta testers (maybe a regular status email?) that sets expectations, even weekly, would go a long...

1) Model Y, FSD Beta V10.8 (still): I've been in stop and go traffic on the freeway a handful of times in the last couple of months (post FSD beta) and have never noticed it being too agressive with the accelerator -- if I'm driving with PAX I usually engage TACC (definitely not FSD which is...

That's a good example, bluetooth works so we have options for audio. I just want the same freedom for video/interaction. Look at it the other way, would you be happy if tesla decided bluetooth was too expensive and made us only use the streaming audio they supported in car? Many of the arguments...

I'm reasonably happy with Tesla's built in stuff, but don't like being completely at their mercy on when/how to update or add features. They decide they're mad at Spotify? Poof its gone with no recourse and you're forced to bundle an unwelcome change like the hypothetical spotify loss with...

Thank you for sharing the story, its good to understand failures others have had and trade stories. I'm glad no one was hurt and it sucks your car got banged up. I would be really unhappy in your situation and would try to share to help out others just like you have. I've been very nervous in...

I've had this problem too but under really specific conditions (I reported it in detail to the beta email). Basically driving in a city at night if I look left/right for cross traffic before entering an intersection (with FSD driving) it gets mad at me. During the day or in more open terrain, no...

I've had poor luck putting two hands on the wheel, it always starts nagging even if I try to put some differential torque on (its hard to hang one hand harder than the other). Hanging one hand on the wheel near the bottom (usually the right with arm on the center rest) works really well for me...

With NOA you can disable that "feature" (which drives me nuts too); I have the FSD beta and it *really* likes to change lanes a lot (usually to the lane furthest away from the next turn coming up so it can cleanly miss the turn). In FSD beta there is an 'aggression' setting which claims it will...

Maybe one of your neighbors got their real estate license and registered their home address as a business. Google hoovers up business registrations for these maps (someone previously taught kids to swim in my pool and for years after we moved in there was a pin on my address with a swimming...

I've been running waze on my phone in the wireless charger, it does the alerts through BT and it works fine. It would certainly be much nicer to have carplay or the ability to install apps on the car itself but for me (with about 4K miles of XC driving this summer) waze on the phone was "ok"...

I'm generally pretty light on braking (less so on accelerating) so my normal driving habits haven't dinged me on braking, but OMG the 'extreme turning' is really annoying. I used an accelerometer app on my phone to see what .3G lateral really feels like and its ridiculously slow, much slower...

Oh, I've also noticed more recently (last couple of releases) that it seems to start *very* slowly from a red light, I always have to goose the accelerator if there are folks behind me because its so lethargic.

I've noticed (2021MY) that its a bit more crisp accelerating in freeway traffic if I set the follow distance to 1 (though I don't really like tailgating despite the energy benefit). It would be nice if there were advanced settings somewhere you could access that would let you tune some of these...

My guess/expectation: it doesn't specifically detect anything until/unless steering authority in the steering servo isn't enough to stay in lane, then it would immediately disconnect, likewise with speed control. Another guess: if there is a serious detected diagnostic failure (that would put a...

I tried several times to activate this on my 3/2021 MY and could not get the popup (nor any error message). Best I could do was hold down park to get the extra master cylinder parking brake to set.