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I agree with you. Tesla service was great but is now abysmal and I no longer recommend Tesla to my friends because of it. I have had a Tesla since 2012. I love my Model S but I despise the service these days. It has steadily gotten worse and worse. They charge luxury car prices because of demand...
I was wondering the same thing and emailed Tesla. This is the answer I got:
"Typically, a delivery specialist will be in contact around 4-5 weeks prior to your delivery, once a VIN has been assigned."
2013 Tesla Model S Performance P85, prepaid 4 year service plan, 16500mi, white, excellent condition
Selling my 2013 Tesla Model S Performance to upgrade to the D. My car is in excellent condition and has been hand washed and polished and stored in a garage. Includes a transferable prepaid...
Hi Folks,
Been away for the last week so sorry about the silence. I am also off to CES show today through the weekend so I am afraid I will not have much Tesla time. Not much of an update on my side. The bracket Artsci sent has arrived but I have not had time to test it. I am still waiting for...
Well things went back together okay. Unfortunately my quest was unsuccessful and I did not learn much other than how to open up the wrong part of the car.
So this is what I am thinking:
1) Although I cannot be 100% sure, as I might have missed a wire in the harness, it seems like the reverse...
About to call it a day and start putting things back together. I probed for a few hours. No luck. Beginning to wonder if they switch using linbus or canbus rather than by supplying 12 volts.
It does that if you leave front camera selected. The switch has memory so it will remember its state when powered off and then back on. If you want rear by default just toggle the camera to rear..
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Well with half my trunk disassembled I just realized that the reverse light...
Okay. I answered my own question. It does not come off. You have to pop off the panel where the latch is first then it twists off. Not sure I will ever get this back together :eek:
After unsuccessfully trying to locate the reverse power lead in the footwell I moved on to the trunk. I managed to take off the plastic cover shown in the previous post. It is a dead end and does not provide access to the tail light wiring.
I am now in the process of trying to take off the...
Hmm. Did not realize non tech did not have Homelink. We will provide a remote with the kit that you can use to toggle the front or rear. Force to Rear will work the same in tech or non tech.
Thanks for pointing this out.
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No doubt about that. I recently had my bumper resprayed to fix a nick and the body shop switched off the remote monitoring. When I got my car back I noticed that someone must have been for an extreme joy ride prior to pick up! Tough to prove other than extremely high power consumption that...
Niels. The crossppint switch does not work. Please see a earlier posts. The new design uses a RF switch. Even if the crosspoint switch was working one would need a deserializer and converter to provide a "DVR"output. Not trivial I'm afraid.
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Thanks for sharing this!
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Good suggestion. I took a quick peek at my trunk and the side walls look like they should come off fairly easily. Of course it is totally not obvious to me. Anyone done that? I seem to recall a trunk lighting project that may have needed to take this stuff apart. As you guys can tell I have no...
Thanks Jerry! Force to REAR works now if I press and hold the second (of 4) buttons on my remote fob. Just need to work out where to wire it up. Note that the camera takes a second or two to toggle as you can see in the video. This is a characteristic of the Tesla camera electronics...
Hi Jerry. The way it works currently is.
1. The Homelink toggles the camera from front to rear. Only one Homelink channel is used. In my case the third.
2. The second remote channel (reverse light when wired up) switches to rear when in reverse. i.e. if rear already it will stay there. If on...
Hi NielsChr. I read that this ODBII connector lacks actual CANbus but I have not tested or verified that myself. Reading the CANbus would be very elegant but also a new and more complicated solution. I have also never worked with CANbus so my preference is for a simpler solution to start...
One of the desired features of this switch is the ability to automatically switch to the camera to rear when in reverse. The plan is to power a remote fob that uses one of the spare channels (there are 4 and one is used by homelink) by the reverse light power.
The question is - how can we get...
After further testing with the front and back camera I have found that the 12 volt power inside the camera cable is not stable enough to use to power the switch circuit. Tesla toggles the power on and off when no camera is detected and this prevents the camera switch electronics from working...
Thanks for the kind offer but I actually have a second camera and will be able to test with it soon. :-) Artsci has been using it for the design of the camera bracket.
Good news! The new board works and switches the cameras so the hard part is done!
I only have one camera at the moment but it switched nicely using the board. I am able to control it using the Homelink button on the display. Although the board taps off the 12V power in the camera cable the...
I am hoping that the latest board works too. Good news is the boards arrived and I have assembled one. The power switching seems to work this time. Bad news is I do not have my car to test this weekend. It is in the shop getting 3M protection film added. Anyway here are photos of the board...
My Galaxy S3 has the same issues. Map screen gets corrupted and has trouble connecting reliably. I have to kill it or reboot. My wife's iPhone works as expected. I hope they are working on fixing the bugs. It is not as if this is an issue on an old Android release or on obscure devices.
Well, I prototyped the RF test circuitry today with inconclusive results. The good news is that I could get the RF switch to pass the camera signal consistently and well. The bad news is that I could only get it to work with one of the pairs of outputs despite switching things around. So the...
Cannot agree more. The collaboration has been great. Just a few of the many innovative ideas that come to mind include using the Homelink to control the display and using 3D modeling to create a license plate bracket. Thanks for starting this journey for us Artsci and for working on the...
Thanks for the support Berkut. Having never worked with LVDS or video before this is quite a learning curve. I do fortunately have a background in RF engineering (albeit very rusty) so this stuff does not scare me. This is the first time I have bared my design iterations in all their gory...
The mission is not over ...
The bad news is that the first design does not work and it is going to take a bit more effort to make and test some modifications and get it right.
For the technical folks here are the issues:
1. The LVDS crosspoint switch I used did not work. It is a 1.5 Gbps...
Hi Jerry,
I have put that on the back burner as a second phase while I build and test the switch. It is not at all easy to do this as the setting is done in software and it appears that the console likely communicates with the camera each time it it switched on. The communication (custom...
Thanks for all the support and encouragement. The two PCBs I ordered arrived faster than expected and fit inside the enclosures they were designed for. Still waiting for the parts to arrive and if I get them soon I might be able to perform some initial testing this weekend.
Here is a photo of...
I placed the order to have a couple of PCBs manufactured. They should take a week or so to arrive. I will order the parts next and will hopefully have something to start working within a couple of weeks. My initial test will be to verify the operation of the video and power switches. If that...
Thanks for the feedback Ken. I noticed an error with MCLR connected to 5V instead of 3V and fixed that. I also added some test circuitry to make my life easier when testing the circuit and developing the firmware. I think I am close to ordering and assembling a couple of PCBs and seeing if...
Ken,
I share your concern.The current board design uses differential microstrip. The crosspoint switch and sockets have been placed to attempt to create close to equal length traces.
The current specs are:
Using inexpensive FR4 with assumed relative permeability of 4.3. High frequency board...
I will post a more details later. It looks like the PIC is providing clock and converting from UART over LVDS to I2C.
For the technical geeks like me here is the proposed schematic and layout for the switch. The board is designed in a Newageenclosures case.
Although it is quite likely that the PIC is setting the OV registers, the reason why I have not ruled out the possibility of I2C being set by the console is this type of serializer from TI that passes I2C down the twisted pair: http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/ds90ub901q-q1.pdf
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Thanks for the info araxara. It really does look like there is really no easy alternative to some some reverse engineering using an actual camera. I plan to order mine soon and I will see if I can continue working on the schematic and perhaps analyze the I2C/SCCB bus using a logic analyzer. I...
thanks vfx. The current design approach is to use a microcontroller to switch the relays that is signalled by 4 channel RF decoder with an additional two wired inputs. The schematic is in the posted link. I chose an 18 series pic because I happen to have a swordfish basic compiler that I can...
Time for a little technical update. Artsci and I have been collaborating on the front camera design and we thought it would be useful to summarize where we are:
First the Goals:
Primary
[*=1]Add front facing camera to the Model S that displays on the existing screen
[*=1]Switch the camera...
My mirror arrived and I taped it as close as possible to the back camera as shown here:
On the console it looks like this:
You can see the mirror image in the rectangle in the center. The sense is correct. Unfortunately the mirror is still not optically close enough to the wide angle...
Great to have you involved cybrown. I was hoping that we could find an Omnivision expert and you seem like just the guy.
I spoke to two camera integrators today who work with Omnivision modules. One does not have LVDS interface options but they said they would look into what they may be able to...
Worth a shot. You may be on to something: amzn.com/B00DN2U0YI - so I ordered one. Thanks for the idea. Will post what I find when it arrives.
(My neighbors would not even see that.)
I am of the same opinion. Camera reversal is a nice to have for me too. My first priority is to help you with the switch PCB. Looking forward to your test.
Still happy to pursue the other option but so far it is looking like too much effort. We have learned a lot though and as we uncover more...
I like your illustration. Not to rule anything out I grabbed one of my daughters' hand mirrors and surreptitiously wandered into the garage, held up the mirror and peered in the back window at the display. I held it at a 90 degree angle and as close as possible. That camera is very wide angle...
@ken830. Good eyes. I did not suspect an on board PIC as the LVDS serializer/deserializer data sheets I read showed examples of both the video data and control lines being converted to serial. I am just a rusty old guy playing being an engineer again. It will be interesting to see if the PIC is...
@ken830. What are you thoughts here? Are you suggesting we solder I2C breakout leads and write to those registers with a microcontroller? It might be a bit tricky to do this on more than a few. If we go down the programming route I am thinking that the only practical way to do this would be to...
Definitely worth a call. I will call the companies identified early next week. They may know or have easy ways to work out the OV10630 settings that Tesla used as well as add LVDS and may not want to charge much. We might get lucky particularly if one of them owns a tesla ;-)
Not foolish at all. That might be best particularly if the console is not setting the camera on the fly. Hopefully that is not the case which would make the aftermarket solution a good one if it is possible to identify and mimic Tesla implementation.
Besides the technical issues, the gotcha is...