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  1. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    He's a broken record. He put up his P100D for sale in an old post and not sure if he sold it or not, but he doesn't even have a Tesla if it was sold. The S and X are selling and people are getting accustomed to the yoke. Only the haters post and they choose to be so dramatic. OMG, I was...
  2. 2putt4

    Tesla Model S Plaid 2021 $41K off on Tesla Used Inventory

    I don't buy cars based on long-term value. If I wanted to buy something that holds value, it would be a GT3RS, GT2, or any limited edition runs of an iconic brand. Enjoy the car and consider it an expense. I change cars every 4-5 years and I live with the fact that I will lose money...
  3. 2putt4

    Tesla Model S Plaid 2021 $41K off on Tesla Used Inventory

    8000 miles on my car and will be 1 year old this September end. I'm not sure what vibration everyone is talking about. The ride has been flawless at all speeds and maybe the vibration you feel is lane breach warning. I feel a vibration when I'm close or meander across lane lines.
  4. 2putt4

    Tesla Model S Plaid 2021 $41K off on Tesla Used Inventory

    Supply has met demand and you can get an MSP today with little to no wait. Prices have also gone up since 2021. Configured the same spec today and MSRP vs. MSRP has gone up about $20k. On September 15, expect $3k more with the increase in FSD. You also didn't mention miles. So depreciation...
  5. 2putt4

    2022 S LR - Constant Autopilot Safety/Convenience Features Unavailable Error

    Same with mines, $0. Just be aware that the car will have to be driven up to 50 miles until the cameras and radar all recalibrate. It can happen sooner, but they had to drive my car approximately 50 miles. It probably calibrated sooner, but they had to drive the car back to the shop.
  6. 2putt4

    2022 S LR - Constant Autopilot Safety/Convenience Features Unavailable Error

    I had the same issue with my 2021 MSP that was fixed through radar unit replacement. I didn’t have the same error but couldn’t engage autopilot and shows no cars or pedestrians and just lane lines. Radar replacement and camera calibration fixed it.
  7. 2putt4

    Lucid Air Grand Touring vs Tesla Model S Plaid.

    I saw a burgundy Lucid this past weekend and it looks nice, but not something I can't see myself driving. The same way I prefer BMW over Mercedes, there's a more youthful and sporty look to most BMW's compared to the more conservative poshness of a Mercedes. Tesla is the more youthful and the...
  8. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid problems?

    Oh I just remembered an issue while driving from SF to Las Vegas. After every supercharging, and when you start driving, it will say that your sensors are blocked or obstructed and will eventually go away. Not sure what the issue is, but seems like a jolt of electricity to the car triggers a...
  9. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    This is another reason why Lucid may not be successful is because they need a volume seller. They lowered their delivery numbers from 12k to 6k cars this year but they've only delivered 1k cars so far. Not sure how they are going to make up the remaining 5k. They have 37k orders in the backlog...
  10. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    I'd love to see more detail on this comparison, but some of the older cars may have FSD or transferrable unlimited supercharging or who knows. Are you looking at these used base model 3 in the same zip code / area as you?
  11. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    Nesconset NY vs Miami, FL are two different markets. You will see this if you just scan for similar cars on auto trader across locations.
  12. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    Model X is still in short supply and there is a wait. Model S Plaid supply has caught up with demand. LR models is what the average EV buyer prioritizes on. No one needs a Plaid and only wants it. It's a luxury and not a necessity. This is the reason why expensive cars depreciate a lot faster...
  13. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid problems?

    You just got unlucky. Go to the Lucid owners forum and having a Tesla will make you feel better.
  14. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid problems?

    Don't. People come to the forums to complain and the other 90% who are happy don't. I haven't had any major issues other than weird software glitches where it took me offline from the mothership, but a quick visit to the service center resolved it.
  15. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    This is only true for the Model S and I'm not surprised. Model 3 and Y are both still in high demand with a huge backlog of orders. $120k+ cars is not a high volume seller and after the first wave of affluent buyers, demand will eventually taper off. This is the reason why Giga Berlin, Austin...
  16. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    Just pulled up my Vehicle order agreement from back in May of last year and wow have prices gone up. I also had to pay 9% CA sales tax on top :mad:
  17. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    Yes. You can get an MSP same day in California. I was charging at a supercharger that happens to be at a Tesla center in Pleasanton, CA and there was a brand new white 2022 MSP ready to be driven off the lot. Everyone that really wanted it early had to deal with supply but now it has caught up...
  18. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    You also need to consider the used car sales bubble. The best time to sell a car was earlier this year, between Jan - April. Everyone was buying your car because people were paying a premium due to the supply chain shortage. Now companies like CarMax, Carvana, and dealerships are having...
  19. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    Who are you getting the quote from?
  20. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    Oh damn, I just configured one online with the same options I have and it's now $157,440 before CA sales tax. Yikes, I'm glad I got mines when I did.
  21. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    You can't calculate Tax on depreciation. I paid about the same and I'm assuming you are including FSD, Fees, and Taxes which you can't recoup in a sale. What was the MSRP on just the car alone?
  22. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    I can see how it would be difficult as the yoke jerks quickly in turns and grabbing it can be challenging vs. letting your fingers glide as the wheel turns. when I had to take over autopilot, I just grabbed whatever part of the yoke to cancel it, I wouldn't say it's scary, but it was a little...
  23. 2putt4

    Lucid Sapphire - uh oh Tesla, let’s revive the Plaid Plus.

    I think this means war! The Taycan Turbo S just beat the plaid Nurburgring time and now Lucid is coming out with the Sapphire edition with a Tri motor and over 1200hp. Where do I put my deposit down for a plaid plus?
  24. 2putt4

    Battery daily vs. trip charge recommendation

    Really weird. There was two ticks for me between daily and trip. So I’m assuming daily charging to 90% should be fine?
  25. 2putt4

    Battery daily vs. trip charge recommendation

    Is it just me or was there an update where the trip region is now 90 or 100%? The scale that you can adjust in my first 9 months of owning the car had it at 80% for daily and anything above is "trip." It seemed to have changed after I charged to 100% for the first time when I was doing a road...
  26. 2putt4

    Anyone else have issues with their 2021 refresh Model S?

    So far so good with my 21 MSP. Will hit the 1 year mark at the end of September and have driven it over 8k miles. Only issue was with connectivity after a software update 2 days after delivery and most recently, they had to replace the radar unit when autopilot stopped working after 6k miles.
  27. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    You almost crashed it twice trying to park? Use auto park maybe. I don’t understand what people do to almost crash their yoke. What were you doing and how fast? Slow down maybe, there’s something called the brakes if you don’t feel comfortable with a maneuver.
  28. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    Not all people who track their cars do it in competition. Serious track day junkies have a dedicated track car(s) and some, like myself, who enjoy the 1-3x year track day with your buddies, use the cars we have. I had an F10 M5 Competition BMW and I tracked it... It's in a no-passing class and...
  29. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    CCB's are overkill for the streets and you may or may not stop any faster. Requires more brake input when wet and is expensive to replace although it has better longevity at 100,000 miles. Will be less, of course, if you abuse it on the track often. CCB's are actually ideal for the track because...
  30. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    Watching that video again, I don't think that even counter steering would have avoided that spinout. It happened so quick out of the turn because he put toooooo much throttle input (being a plaid) he didn't expect that much power to come through. He was merging and just gunned it. Reminds me of...
  31. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    I saw this video and laughed at the fact that an inexperienced driver, not knowing the dynamics of something with so much power and how it behaves in "Track Mode", tried it on hard acceleration in a turn. He explained his "theory" of how it happened and I'm sure that he is shocked and it hit him...
  32. 2putt4

    Model S Plaid Brakes Are Terrible!

    Not sure if any of you seen this, but this is a thorough explanation worth noting about the plaid brakes.
  33. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    OMG, for once he agrees. 🤣 People still take it to the track and just like any other car, you have to know its limits. The $20k CCB brake option will be available soon for those who seriously track the car, but for those who say that a car of this price should include it as it is negligent of...
  34. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    Brake and Braking Comparison Porsche Taycan Turbo S Tesla Model S Plaid Horse Power 750 HP 1020 HP Curb Weight 5,109 lbs 4,816 lbs Front/Rear Diameter 16.5"/16.1" 15"/14.4" Material Carbon Ceramic Steel 60-0 103-ft 104-ft For all those who complain about the brakes, please educate...
  35. 2putt4

    Las Vegas Self Carwash

    I'm sure many in Vegas do not self-report because they prioritize on themselves having a good time. Most people will not quarantine and continue to leave their room to get food and do every day things. I self reported because I didn't want to quarantine in the room for who knows how many days as...
  36. 2putt4

    Thoughts on Yoke from Plaid owner

    Maybe you’re right about yoke not being offered anymore, but I thought I watch a video, probably old, that had it as an option. Regardless, it was introduced in the new S and X and the Cyber Truck soon. Why wasn’t it teplace in the 3 and Y?? I don’t know maybe they focused on the giga press...
  37. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    Judging from your historical posts, doesn’t sound like you have anything positive to say about tesla. Did your car sell? If it did, then you’re no longer a tesla owner unless you have other models in the garage. There’s calling things as you see it but trying to convince others it’s bad and...
  38. 2putt4

    Thoughts on Yoke from Plaid owner

    That’s all you got? Great.
  39. 2putt4

    Thoughts on Yoke from Plaid owner

    People laughed at the first iPhone and continued their loyalty with BlackBerry and its physical keyboard. Companies advertise that they still have a headphone jack when their competitors don’t. Where are they now? BlackBerry now focusing on security software and whatever, Google and many others...
  40. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    There’s like 2 or 3 on this thread who continue to extend this to 11 pages as if their rants will change anything. I looked at the some of the historical posts on one of them and they have a history of being negative on just about anything. FSD is BS and will never work, Yoke is a Joke, Elon is...
  41. 2putt4

    Las Vegas Self Carwash

    I felt symptoms and the next day I had a full blown fever and chills. I had an antigen test kit with me and tested positive. I called the front desk the next day and they asked me to stay in my room until a manager calls me. The hotel manager calls me along with a contact tracer who asked me 20...
  42. 2putt4

    Las Vegas Self Carwash

    Thanks. I had to cut my trip short and return to SF yesterday after catching Covid on day 3 of my 9-day visit. The Wynn disabled my room key and I couldn't leave my room. 2 days for me to feel better and drove back yesterday.
  43. 2putt4

    Easiest way to black out Tesla emblem (front and back)?

    I did about 7 coats and just drove my car from SF to Las Vegas and Back in 100+ deg heat while peppered by road debris and bugs. Looks good and nothing sticks to it.
  44. 2putt4

    Easiest way to black out Tesla emblem (front and back)?

    Not putting back on your spoiler?
  45. 2putt4

    Model S -> Taycan Review

    This is why traditional auto will fail and why dealership will be obsolete. If traditional auto continues to leverage dealerships and dealer networks continue to lobby their local politicians, then Tesla will win. Ford has started cracking down on dealers putting 25-50k markups on the Mach-E...
  46. 2putt4

    Model S -> Taycan Review

    I would have to agree here. I wish Tesla would offer more color options. This is the reason why color wraps are so popular in the Tesla community. Like Tesla, Porsche needs to control their margins and it's probably the reason why you feel that the interior materials were a notch below the...
  47. 2putt4

    Wheels: Vossen vs. HRE vs. Signature or Others

    Nothing wrong with anything manufactured in Taiwan :) as long as it performs and looks good.
  48. 2putt4

    Further discussion and analysis on why the yoke is not good

    +1 - Check out this guy doing 150 in the chicanes - worst track I have ever seen to have a wall in the middle. The driver is totally nuts.
  49. 2putt4

    Model S -> Taycan Review

    Nice review and great choice on color. I seriously considered the sport tourismo GTS version but I couldn't justify the $166k sticker after options and dealing with Porsche sales people. Love the interior and quality of the alcantara rich GTS, but even at that price, there are some basic options...
  50. 2putt4

    How to improve yoke buttons for $8

    Is it just me or do they look off center? I'm sure it's just an illusion given the bubble