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Why do you want keyfobs in your pocket when you can just use your smartphone ?

Same, 13-27 dec, RN1158. Sadly, that’s exactly when I’ll be on vacation far far away.. anyone wants to pick my MSP for me ?? 😅

I think the Max speed rate is enough in winter, and basically this size was designed for mclaren, so prob enough in winter conditions ;) For comparison, my winter tires on my 911 also have a lower max speed rate and are approved by Porsche.

All season tires are not great in all conditions, why not using proper winter tires for winter and summer tires for.. summer ? Pirelli has the correct size for front and rear.

We are a bit of topic but as we are waiting for our VINs we have a bit of time I guess 😀 I would agree with you about Twitter as I also believe that speech freedom should always have “boundaries” : you can say whatever you want as long as you do not harm or incitate others to harm our mankind...

You take it too personally. Tesla is now run by many very good engineers and at some point Elon Musk will no longer be very much involved in the company anyway.

I placed order for a red MS Plaid in oct 2021 and still no VIN (edd dec - feb). I’m in France. I’m wondering how VINs are assigned : country ? RN order ? Looks like it is a bit random..

For you guys who got a more precise EDD, what was the first digits of your RN ?

Lol dude you are missing the point of what he is trying to say ! The pb is not only the rending of his car on the screen (which might not even be red?), it is a general rendering issue with all red colors, including in theater mode, etc.

I’m really wondering why this is important to you. If the car is the same, what is the benefit to get a 2023 vin ?

Partly paid and the rest is financed. No VIN yet, the status on the website was “payment pending” with the amount so that’s why I did the payment. Now the only remaining step is delivery. I wanted to pay as early as possible because my EDD is still dec22 -feb23, but I won’t be there almost a...

MS Plaid, France, payment finalised : Tesla center saying that they should come in Europe by end of November, beginning of December.

So I did the payment, and of course my bank put the wrong order number for the wire transfer. Talked to Tesla, they will fix it (hopefully). Where is the world were people can pay for whatever they want themselves without going through any random bank account managers who can’t read a f*** wire...

Website for financing is working again. I provided all paperwork, and waiting for confirmation. But I also hope that my delivery window will be after 08/01, because I’ll be on vacation for almost a month before on the other side of the planet.. Covid was too long to postpone my holidays again !

Hello guys, any news from your SC ? On my side I’m still stuck at the step where I need to provide payment infos because except full payment upfront the other financing solutions does not work. My order is for a MS plaid with delivery in France.

I have the same on my account too (France): I filled all the info until the financing part (I don’t know yet if I will lease or loan). But sadly it didn’t work: financing solutions seem to not be working in France (yet). So I went to my SA today and they told me that it was too early for that...

I have a reservation for a MS Plaid in France and didn’t get contacted to increase the amount from 100e to 250e, but I did get the email about delivery in nov/dec this year

Thanks for the feedback @M3LA. Can’t wait to put my hands on mine. Sadly I’m in Europe so I’ll have to wait next year, but anyway the plan is to replace my current ‘19 Porsche 911 c4s in December 2022.

You are REALLY trying very hard to turn something very simple (2 buttons, left/right) into a very complex one.. I suggest you to ask a 6 year old kid to use a stalk to activate a turn signal, versus using 2 buttons that are right below their thumb (just like a game pad, you know), I bet my...

Do you know that ALL carmakers are using tons of buttons on steering wheels for decades ? Have you see the dozens of buttons in a Mercedes EQS ? Poor ergonomics too right ? Dealbreaker ??

Roundabout are probably the place where using stalks for turn signal is the worse. When you have both hands on the steering wheel, turning left to go around it, you are nowhere near the stalks. You must lift your left hand off it and then activé the turn signal to the right, doing a move upward...

This is CR trying to demonstrate that the buttons for turn signal on the yoke is a bad idea by trying to use them when the yoke is upside down, not me ! I perfectly know that blinkers should be enabled BEFORE applying any angle to the steering wheel or whatever you use. That’s why I’m saying it...

Sure. 100x more difficult. Hey you know what ? BMW drivers cannot drive a Tesla anyway, because there is no stalk for gear shifting in a BMW, it would probably take them 100 years to figure out how to put a Tesla in D mode whereas they are used to have a gear selector in the center console...

Well, you can use an iPhone for emergency calls.. 🙃 Most of current plaid owners says that the learning curve is approx 1-2 weeks. I don’t think this more than transitioning from automatic to manual transmission for instance.. I think you are exaggerating the learning curve a lot, and I don’t...

Ford is for you then. Oh by the way, have you seen the latest iteration of Audi steering wheel ? Flat bottom, flatter top, it looks more and more like a yoke but no one complain because it is a well established brand from legacy carmakers I guess..

- Turn your steering wheel at 90 degrees, and try to use blinkers without lifting your hands from it, and tell me if this is very different from what you can or cannot do with a yoke upside down. - There are so many cars where it is clearly blocking the view of the instrument cluster, you can’t...

I think you completely ignore all the other downside of a traditional steering wheel. I think you have the same reasoning as people who complained about the iPhone was released back in 2007, because it didn’t have physical buttons and 3G. I think the usage of the yoke is going to increase, and...

I think they should review it after more than 5min of usage and train a bit their muscle memory. I think they should have a look at the in car user manual, about the alternate way to activate the honk. I also think that the turn signal should be activated way before you have your steering wheel...

Edmunds tried to prove that the yoke is not working by trying to drift it on a race track.. well, this is completely BS, and it exactly proves the opposite : if they can’t prove it in the driving conditions the car is designed for (remember this is a sedan, juste like an Audi RS6, so it’s...

Honestly I’m not fully sure why about that particular feature, but what I know is that when I learnt driving, I’ve been taught to « keep my hands on the steering wheel » all the time, which is, when you think a bit about it, contradictory with the usage of stalks, gear shifting sticks, turn...

You don’t need to find the horn button to use it, you can just put your entire hand over all the buttons of the right side, just like if you pushed the traditional centre cover. It works exactly the same except that it is a bit on the right. Doesn’t seems to be a big deal here. Regarding the...

Well, that is probably the next step for Tesla : if not possible yet, they will have to implement a variable steering ratio according to speed, which can be achieved mechanically but also, and that’s probably the next evolution of a yoke « v2 » is to use steering by wire, which also makes sense...

Because you have a fixed mindset. You need a growing mindset to understant why a yoke will ultimately be better overall than a regular rounded steering wheel in most use cases. When I see the op talking about U turn or 3 point turn, my first reaction is "how often do I do such move ?", well, it...

Hi, I will replace my current car in December 2022 by a Model S Plaid, when do you think I should order it ?