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@dfwatt That may be true, but camber alone absolutely can cause that, and @robl45 already said they got the toe aligned after lowering. Seeing the actual alignment numbers would be good to confirm, but are you actually suggesting the static camber with those lowering springs isn't enough to...

@milesr3 It's worth noting those comparisons screenshots don't show the Michelin PS4S which is the popular one here. The PS4S is supposed to be higher performing than the non-S PS3/PS4/PS5. That said I agree those are clearly very strong test results for the ION EVO summer tire version...

Unpopular opinion: Am I the only one here who feels the seats and damper upgrades are waaaay more needed and significant for the M3P than extra power? 🤷‍♂️ I've already upgraded my suspension but it sure would be nice to have decent front seats while retaining full OEM seat functionality and...

Last time I did the math, a set of nice camber arms for a lowered Model 3 should pay for themselves by saving on tire costs in relatively short order, if you drive a lot. Exact numbers will vary of course based on your preferred tires and exactly what your alignment specs end up at without the...

Simply driving the nordschleife isn't bucket list for me...but driving a fully prepped M3P on a road course might be! Someday...

@EVChris Did any Model Y's you test drove ride better? When approximately were they built? Also were they Fremont or Austin built, and is your MYLR Fremont or Austin built? From what I understand, the chassis and some suspension parts are still different between the factories, and those...

@brainhouston Agreed, that stuff can all wear out and break on a Tesla same as any car. It's worth inspecting, or just carefully listening as you test drive. Of course even if that stuff is good the day you buy your used high mileage Model S, I promise you those control bushings will wear out...

@traubgator I see, that makes sense. Do you leave Bluetooth enabled on your phone? If so the car should automatically unlock anytime you're next to it and open a door or the trunk. Is there a scenario where this isn't sufficient?

@traubgator Mirrors folding while backing up doesn't sound right at all! There should be a setting to auto-fold mirrors only when locked in Park. With that setting enabled on my 2021 Model 3, the mirrors auto-fold only when the car locks without a driver occupant, e.g. walk-away lock or tapping...

@KBM3P EV focused tires usually only come in OE sizes for popular EVs from what I've seen (no matter if they are or aren't OE). If you haven't bought the wheels yet, and you want an EV focused tire, how about going 8.5" or 9" wide for your wheels? Then you can comfortably run an OE tire size...

@Jules22 That sounds really great. I hope Tesla can roll that out here soon, to all the cars they've sold here with matrix headlights.

I swear Tesla UI team has been taken over by suburban dwellers who never drive their cars beyond suburban sprawl, ruler-straight highways, and parking lots. Oh, right, Elon moved to Texas. 😮‍💨

@ken_neth @E90alex Holy carp (fish), thanks for calling attention to this. Press and hold to turn the high beams back on? Every time? At least turning them off doesn't require holding. From the manual: Press and hold to turn on high beam headlights - touchscreen displays a brief timer and you...

No way, new headlights with the old bumper would be the best styled mix. 😎😛

@V8s2Vzero Could your driver's seat occupancy sensor be broken? Ours broke once. I never experienced this issue but there were other symptoms from it (e.g. display turning off upon closing driver's door after entering the car). Try this experiment: Before actually parking in the parking spot...

Alignment involves adjusting the suspension and steering, not the tires. Some tire shops do alignments but many don't. I get my tires and alignments at different shops. For tread depth I suggest getting your own gauge and measuring it yourself. A basic pen gauge is dirt cheap. A nicer gauge...

@Bobo818 Were your tire rotations simply front<->back, such that wheels never moved between sides of the car, and now after latest rotation all wheels are back at their original locations? What are your tire tread depths at all 4 corners, measuring inner, middle, and outer tread? Can you share...

@timeshifter I agree the Model 3 is much more fun to drive, while the Y seat height and overall human+cargo spaciousness are a lot more comfortable and practical. If the 3 is practical enough, I say make the trade, get the fun car! 🙂 Personally I didn't like how the Model Y drove when we tested...

I got the Pirelli P-Zero All Season Plus ELECT on our P85 last year in part thanks to reviews & comparisons in this thread. I'll vouch for what @Mjezzi wrote in the first post - they're a really nice combo of quiet (seriously quiet), efficient, and still handling well. Are they the absolute...

@easyev I think your friend doesn't know what they are missing with actual fun to drive cars. Does your friend only drive crossovers? A 2021 Macan I test drove was so boring I got pissed at myself when I made a wrong turn on my way back to the dealer and had to drive it a couple extra minutes...

Outsourcing for custom software that's core to your product is usually a bad move. What was the business plan if they're running out of money before ramping up to large production numbers? Were they planning to issue more stock but couldn't after the stock tanked?

I drove our Model 3 up that long steep road today, the road where it used to always pop/clunk once each time up or down. This time there was no pop/clunk from the battery pack. It seems the fix was successful.

@pipestem What you wrote is exactly how I feel about these topics. Word for word. Well said. 👍 @E90alex @terranx Both of you should really take the plunge and put some good coilovers on your Model 3's (from Redwood or MPP). I completely agree with what you two wrote, but it's all from the...

@BUCKM3P I've no experience with Tiens. You're talking about the EnduroPro Plus? From what I've read here they sound perfectly fine for $500, but...I don't think I would be happy with the handling. I guess the question is, are you looking for a sizeable all-around upgrade, or just a better...

In the service request I used Battery - Other category. I described the problem exactly as I observed it and didn't mention suspension.

@BUCKM3P I'm with you on staying stock height. For keeping stock springs take a look at the Redwood FPX dampers. I rode in a Model 3 with the FPX GT full coilovers version and it was a really good ride quality, much better than stock. The coilovers can do stock height too, but you save some...

@Topornottop Track Mode will let you do exactly the type of car control you described, and is essential for that. Traction control and stability control on the 3 and Y are too intrusive otherwise. This I can say with plenty of firsthand experience in my M3P. Now if you want to do 80+ mph...

Our 2021 M3P had this issue of a clunk/thunk/pop from the battery pack sheet metal. For us it happened going up or down a long steep road, just once each time up or down. It could sometimes be felt through the floor by someone sitting in the rear passenger seat. Tesla Service fixed it under...

@BUCKM3P What are you looking for from the upgrade? Better ride? Better handing? A mix of both? If both, which would you emphasize more?

@ZeiFin How many miles or km on your Konis so far? Brand new dampers being extra stiff until they wear in is a thing in my experience. My Redwood Ohlins Performance Sport coilovers were surprisingly firm at first, felt like there was a bit of stiction initially. After a few thousand miles that...

@Owner81 Is your 2019 LR RWD or AWD? I'm sure the parts would fit fine if AWD -> AWD. I've spent too much time on these forums and not heard of any incompatibilities there (not counting Highland). To me the switch wouldn't be worth the hassle (if DIY) or install cost (if paying someone else)...

@Sweed269 @Kvitravn Redwood's Ohlins that @LightSaber is considering are totally different product from Ohlins R&T. The issues with Ohlins R&T aren't relevant to the Redwood kits, they're not even based on the R&T. They both use Ohlins DFV parts inside the damper but that's the only...

@gearchruncher Model S came with the "tall" i.e. closed-end lug nuts originally, which made sense since the wheel designs then didn't have lug covers or aero covers. I think the short open-ended nuts started with the newer wheel designs that have covers over the lugs.

@JamesMS13 Only the Tesla service center / advisor who wrote up that invoice can answer that question! Anything the rest of us post about it here would just be speculation.

@heavymetalm8r I've driven many revisions of Tesla Autopilot HW + SW over the years, going back to the original Mobileye-based AP1. Our Model S is pre-AP but we've had lots of loaners with AP over the years, and eventually got a 2021 Model 3 as a second car, which came with basic AP. In those...

Yikes, that's horrible! Now I wouldn't want FSD even if it was free. Okay, I do see that FSD Beta can be disabled in-car and that reopens access to standalone TACC, but still, for me there'd be no point in having FSD Beta then. Even though Autosteer has improved a lot in the past decade, it's...

@FatM3 The Ohlins damper tech is higher end. Costs more, performs better. Well definitely costs more, supposedly performs better 😄. Redwood only made the Ohlins version when I bought my kit, so I never cross-shopped vs FPX myself. For an actual explanation of behavior differences you might feel...

Those of you running into the milling sound now, on 1st gen RWD Model S, is this your car's first such failure, or have you experienced multiple milling sound failures over the years? As a data point, our P85's drive unit was replaced under warranty for the milling sound around 2015-2016 if I...

Redwood Motorsports now has damper-only kits that can reuse the stock springs: https://redwoodmotorsports.com/collections/model-3/products/model-3-y-fpx-long-stroke-damper-only-upgrade-kit-engineered-by-fpspec-for-redwood-motorsports...

@BrianZ What was your source for this info? Do you have an MCU2 Tesla where the backup cam seemed to improve greatly with a recent software update? As best I can tell this improvement was never rolled out to my 2021 MCU2 Model 3, not with its current 2024.2.7 software or any prior version...

Nice comparison @FastLaneJB. The result is no surprise, the octovalve heat pump is really great. I'm sure the Eletre has more interior volume to heat/cool than a Model 3 though. Model Y or S are probably closest to the Eletre in interior size. But I'm also sure a current Model Y or S with...

@brettinteriors Do it. Everything is better with some reasonable tire sidewall. I switched out our 2021 M3P wheels for forged 18x8.5" Titan 7 T-S5 in Satin Titanium. The ride, handling, tire cost, and of course tire + wheel reliability are all better with the smaller, lighter wheels and...

@S&B's M3 You didn't ask me, but on many roads 100% yes. You can't just swerve around a pothole when the whole road is a cratered mess, or when there's a huge lip across the whole road. Not to mention highway potholes where the combination of speed and traffic and/or barriers might not give any...

@enemji This is what a max performance tire looks like after a short neighborhood driving (Bridgestone Potenza Sport 245/45R18 on 2021 M3P). MXM4 don't pick up debris like this. 😉 Note again, "max performance" is just the max street tire category. Track day and racing tires get even stickier...

@enemji Those two should have a clear, obvious difference in stickiness at warmer temperatures (above freezing at least). MXM4 are pretty terrible for grip and performance, even compared to many allseasons. PS4S is a well regarded "max performance" summer tire, the top category of...

@xxaarraa Yes the MXM4 are really terrible. Try the Pirelli P-Zero ELECT All season. Specifically the ELECT version. https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/car/catalog/product/pzero-as-plus-elect We put a set on our P85 last fall. Quietest tire I've ever used on a car of my own. Better grip and...

Agreed with can't generalize. Summer and allseason both encompass a huge range of tire noise levels. The last summer tires I ran on our Model 3 were noiser than its current allseasons. But I could cherrypick comparisons where the reverse is true. It really depends on the specific tires.

Same with our P85, except we only made it maybe 3 years before a 21" rim cracked. Downsized to 19" after that and never looked back. Our M3P came with similar rubberband-thin tires on 20" wheels (235/35R20). I immediately downsized it to 18" wheels, with my wife's full agreement that it...

@evo9rs Yup we still have our P85. 160k ish miles, still on its original struts. I replaced all the controls arm last year though, the bushings and bearings were all shot. P85D+ and P85+ suspensions are different because of the motor up front. More weight, and some things changed in the...

@evo9rs Have you explored swapping to the actual OEM P85D+ air struts into your S90D? I'm not sure about pricing or availability, but I imagine a set could be obtained with some patience, new or used. I guess the 90 kWh battery weighs a bit more than the 85 kWh, but with the self-leveling air...