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Guarantee this is a manufacturing defect you never noticed. Teslas stamping process for the MY is absolutely horrible. Just took delivery of a 2024 that has a very similar issue and am now waiting to start arguing with service. The local body shop Tesla uses happens to be a place I know and...

Yep, same here. CA, no network connection. Glad it’s not just me at least :)

Not sure about the whole “getting used to the steering wheel controls” thing honestly. I’ve not been able to get used to them in S refresh. Deal breaker for me. Turn signal is a miserable experience. Now if you just don’t care, or are the kind of person who never really uses them, or don’t...

Ancient thread. Going to bump it. Our 2022 Model Y LR MSM had it. I noticed under certain lighting weeks after delivery, but car hadn’t been driven anywhere it could have picked up dings, so said the heck with it. Just traded for a 2024 MYP white, same thing. I looked around at the...

Look how old this thread is. Keep waiting if you want, but most “Tesla influencers” are full of crap. I have no doubt that S/X/Y will eventually get the ambient lighting as part of some kind of refresh, since the 3 and CT have it, but it could be years for all anyone actually knows. In the...

It’s not even debatable. The only real difference now between “Enhanced Autopilot” and “FSD” is access to the beta. Some may argue that “stop light and stop sign recognition” somehow has value outside of FSD beta, but I suspect most would disagree. HW4 buyers get screwed on FSD period. Then...

The new cream is really nice IMO. The white I find too stark. The black is fine, but to me the S/X interior is already pretty bland, and the materials aren't great. The black doesn't make it any worse, but it definitely doesn't help elevate it the way any other color would. Cream strikes a...

This analogy is terrible. The two eyes are wired to a human brain and attached to a head that swivels around. They are also wired up to hearing and to "feel" (multi-sensor). The car has questionable local processing capacity and a software stack so unsettled that Elon has now decided it...

Honestly it feels you're saying the same thing. He said "drunken teenager", you described in more detail, but to me the "uh, what are you doing" moments are basically "drunken teenager" I concur and feel the same. I agree it's "cool tech to play with", but I really don't find it to be...

Wait wut? The LR doesn't lose to the Performance "by almost 1 second". These numbers of 2.3 seconds to 60 for the Raven are complete bullshit. I owned one for a year and launched the hell out of it. With rollout you can count on 2.4, but "rollout" is bullshit and the Palladium LR 0-60...

Our wives might be sisters 🤣

To me the power move would be the refresh but with USS and a wheel retrofit. I completely agree with those who feel the "amazing new interior" is really not that much better than the old, but it is an improvement and in an area where the S/X really needed some kind of improvement. HW4 cars...

Sorry, not buying this premise that Tesla represents the "tech" option. This needs to get way more specific. If what you define as "tech" is that the native UI is excellent, that the car is a software defined platform which has games, toys and OTA updates, and that the driver assistance is on...

FWIW I think the people who love the yoke are way more defensive. You like it, that's fine. Reality is many do not. It isn't because they "aren't adaptable", or whatever other passive aggressive jab the stalwart "yokeites" need to come up with. The yoke is objectively poorly done. It's too...

I mean I think waiting for HW4 right now is a good idea, because the alternative would be getting HW3 and no USS. Would I trade my USS equipped HW3 MY with FSD Beta for a 2023 HW4 MY that will have basically no advanced functionality, and nearly non functional park assist? No. I get that...

This is useful perspective for me. I traded my Raven MS Perf in 2020 for a Taycan Turbo after only owning the MS for a year (I've always been a Porsche guy, but had really wanted to try Tesla). The Plaid was semi-tempting, but the yoke was a full stop no, and then the lack of stalks compounded...

This pattern keeps repeating. These craptastic Aliexpress products keep getting pumped out. YouTubers who “aren’t paid I swear!!!” gush over them. Regular people buy them. They turn out to be pieces of junk that all but the most diehard “look at the bright side” types regret. And they get...

I don’t really see it as where someone lives. The tax credit phases out at an objectively low income level relative to $100k car. No one that makes $150k, or even $225k as head of household or $300k married given both of those statuses just come with more financial responsibility, should be...

Right now the cheapest possible Model 3 with anything that can realistically be called "self driving" (EAP) is $50k, and that's not a 300 mi range car. You think they can cut this price in half while increasing range? Not buying it. The current Model 3 is a $50k car (albeit in most ways it...

The "newest iPhone" analogy is completely flawed though. The right analogy, if you want to go with that, is you and your friend go into the Apple store. You both purchase the "iPhone 13 Pro Max", and pay the same price, but for some incomprehensible reason yours came with the A14 CPU and the...

I dont understand how anyone could argue that it's perfectly fine for two people to pay the exact same amount for a Model Y, but one gets the brand new, significantly more powerful MCU, which really is the heart of the car, while the other person gets the end of life one. It's insane to argue...

Of course this is why Tesla fanatics should stop endlessly pumping how the car "CONSTANTLY GETS BETTER VIA UPDATES!!!" all over the place when we no that the reality is what you're both saying here...

I would 100% reject this. People saying "you'll be fine! Atom is good!" are insane. Are you getting a discount? Check all the threads about the massive improvement the updated MCU brings. Now as yourself if you were buying a used 2022 in a few years would you verify which MCU it has? Would...

Wow... the fact that two people can both receive a "2022 Model Y" in the same week of 2022, and one gets a far better MCU, rear double glazed windows, and a better 12V battery is absolutely ridiculous. It's amazing to me that Tesla continues to get away with this. There's no way this isn't...

This is spot on. No one in any industry does official quality control testing on an *unofficial config*, but *especially* not automotive. It would be completely invalid and would land them in serious legal risk. The actual cost of any individual part is trivial, but regardless that's all part...

My guess is we're not going to get it. I also expect that this is the "beginning of the end" for the 2020 Model S/X now with the shift to Model 3 interior across the line. Good news is it makes it that much easier to consider Porsche or Audi for me :)