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  1. AutomaticMan

    Tanked Model 3 values?

    That’s true - if I were one of the people who bought during the temporary massive price hike and was needing to sell now I think I’d be crying myself to sleep every night for a month 🤣 (Sorry to anyone reading who actually is in that situation!!) I had a look earlier at a US used car website…...
  2. AutomaticMan

    Tanked Model 3 values?

    I guess no way to prove for sure unless I had a German car to sell that I bought at the same time as comparison. But I can’t help wondering whether Tesla’s aggressive discounting has compounded the market conditions. I know from past experience that French cars tended to lose value quickly as...
  3. AutomaticMan

    Tanked Model 3 values?

    Yeah, as I say, not unheard of. I still think it is towards the bad end of ’normal’ but not out of bounds. I would expect a German car to do better than 35% though, so I think if we’re getting enough Teslas on the roads now that we’re getting a clearer picture of their residuals, they don’t seem...
  4. AutomaticMan

    Tanked Model 3 values?

    This one is closest I could find to mine on Tesla’s website. Mine is a bit newer, but has also done a few more miles. So if it is going for £38,400 used approved from Tesla, I guess £35k in a private sale is probably the best I can hope for. So about 35% depreciation over the first year of...
  5. AutomaticMan

    Tanked Model 3 values?

    I will ask him in between asking “why do you keep changing the prices of your cars over a near £10k range at the drop of a hat and tanking used prices??” while shaking him violently 😜
  6. AutomaticMan

    Tanked Model 3 values?

    I’m in Gloucestershire, no tow bar though. But if prices keep falling at this rate, you’ll probably be able to buy the car from me for less than the price of fitting a new tow bar to it anyway! 🤣😭 I very much hope that is true. But I have no way of knowing at the moment. I’ll probably put it on...
  7. AutomaticMan

    Tanked Model 3 values?

    Don’t worry, it’s a good personal circumstances thing rather than a bad personal circumstances thing. Though I admit the shine is being rather taken off now I know how much I’ll lose on the car! Oh, I know. I knew it would be bad, I just didn’t know that it would be this bad! £695/month isn’t...
  8. AutomaticMan

    Tanked Model 3 values?

    Ok, well having heart palpitations today! Personal circumstances* force a sale in the next 2 or 3 months and it had been a while since I did a Motorway.co.uk valuation. Last time I did one - 6 months ago or so - my 2022 M3 LR was worth £47k. I knew that prices would be a lot lower now because of...
  9. AutomaticMan

    Tessie off peak defrosting

    Afraid not. I have the Tesla charger so all the off peak settings are controlled by the car and it seems to ignore them for defrosting/climate. I wish there was a “climate from battery” toggle option somewhere. I mean, the alternative to all this is for me to wander out to the car in my PJs on...
  10. AutomaticMan

    Tessie off peak defrosting

    I appreciate that in July I’m thinking ahead somewhat… 😂 … But, I’ve just noticed that the latest version of Tessie has automation options to do various things. I think defrosting the Model 3 in winter normally will be annoying because if the car is plugged in it will pull the charge needed to...
  11. AutomaticMan

    I hate my Tesla! Don’t buy one!

    Fooled you! I love my Tesla Model 3 LR! Took a trip in it yesterday, and now that I have Enhanced Autopilot - which I think makes the driver assistance aids work better, which has eased concerns I had about those systems in another thread recently - it really struck me just how brilliant this...
  12. AutomaticMan

    So I tried camping in the car for one night......

    I really don’t think the noise is that bad inside the car if you have the fan speed at 1 or 2 (you need to turn ‘auto’ off). I guess if you’re used to absolute silence maybe it takes getting used to, but I’d say it’s quieter than the white noise machines that a lot of people buy to help them...
  13. AutomaticMan

    Fixed my squeaky seat (issue I haven't seen on the forums)

    This issue is also driving me crazy!! When it first started happening, I arranged for a Tesla mobile engineer to come around to look at it. He confirmed it was the lumbar support grommet, and said he'd taped them up so now it wasn't squeaking anymore. This worked for a while but then it came...
  14. AutomaticMan

    So I tried camping in the car for one night......

    I'm another 'larger than the average bear' person with a CPAP! For CPAP users, Tesla camping is a great alternative to having to carry around a spare CPAP battery with you for tent camping I think. I camped right the way around Italy a few weeks back. I guess I averaged 1 night in the Tesla for...
  15. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    Ok, I was away from the forum for a few days and there are no 17 million pages on this thread... what happened??? 😂;) I haven't gone back and read through it all yet, so apologies if anyone asked me a question I didn't reply to. But I wanted to put an update because... <dramatic plot twist...
  16. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    Well I don’t know what to believe about anything now 🤣 I was skeptical further up the thread about the driver assistance aids performing differently in two different Model 3s. But, I’m currently sat in a 2019 Standard Range courtesy car* and, well, they do seem to! 😂 First was a negative...
  17. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    It’s interesting that other people don’t have issues with setting the follow distance that far back. What I find with that is, let’s say I’m in lane 3 overtaking and the lane is moving at 75mph, while lane 2 is moving at 70mph. If my follow distance is set to 4 or 5 then cars will constantly...
  18. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    I almost always have my follow distance set to 1 (this is already a big enough gap that other drivers lane change into it all the time), so maybe that's the difference? Also, in my describing of it I've possibly given the wrong impression that this all happens quickly, with sudden...
  19. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    It’s a web forum. If no-one engaged in speculation there’d be nothing to talk about 😄 I also don't think it's wild speculation to say that a regulator could rule Autopilot to be unsafe and tell Tesla to fix it. It sounds like they're already under investigation so that must be a possible...
  20. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    It would be interesting if it turned out that the cameras aren’t high enough resolution. I think earlier in the thread someone said Tesla has just signed a deal with Samsung for higher resolution cameras, and also that phantom braking is being investigated by safety authorities. What would...
  21. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    Fair enough, as you say, different experiences. I've used the Ionity at Gretna successfully before, though it is in a stupid place a long way from the main services building (but the same charge could be levelled against many Supercharger locations too). I've probably used Ionity perhaps 10...
  22. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    I've had non-Tesla EVs (VW e-Golf and ID.3) and now a Tesla since Feb, so I've seen both sides of the charging network. To be honest, Tesla is still miles ahead of the game on this in my experience. I mentioned elsewhere in the thread that my home charger is broken at the moment, which means...
  23. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    Not sure why it matters though. What’s the difference to owners between ‘phantom braking happens to all owners’ versus ‘phantom braking happens to most owners’? Assuming this isn’t due to driving style differences between owners,* it’s all the same to owners unless they happen to be one of the...
  24. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    To be honest, in my experience (not talking for the few lucky ones on this thread who never experience phantom braking) once you get a Tesla you use the driver assistance features but you keep your foot over the throttle and develop a good reaction time for over-riding it. It is rare that mine...
  25. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    Yes, and worth underlining that with phantom braking we're talking heavy/emergency stop style braking too. While there are often reasons to slow down on motorways (and I guess it's conceivable that the Tesla could spot something the human driver hasn't, but I too am skeptical of even this)...
  26. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    That is strange... as I say, it is so predictable with mine that it would happen in that scenario that I think I could deliberately trigger it now. I wonder how two cars could be different with the same software. Do you keep your cameras really clean at all times? Maybe my cameras are dirtier or...
  27. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    You don't even get phantom braking when changing lanes with lorries around? That is strange, because it happens predictably every time. If I'm in lane 3 overtaking someone, move back into lane 2 and there's a lorry in lane 1, it will almost always brake hard part way through the lane change. I...
  28. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    I did put ‘hypermiling’ in quotes I think? I meant to anyway. I didn’t set the following distance to 1 to get the slipstream, just because at motorway speeds that felt like the right distance (I could see the lorry’s mirrors). If I set the following distance further, when the lorry and I move...
  29. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    If true, then it is even more baffling why Tesla’s system is so much worse than VW’s. I assumed it was because Tesla was relying on camera data rather than radar data, but if not then there’s even less of an excuse for its poor performance. The other thing VW’s system did, which was lovely, was...
  30. AutomaticMan

    The thing I thought I’d like the most about my Model 3 is the thing I like the least

    I know I’m going to catch some flak for this thread whatever I do, so I will try to head off at least some of it by saying up front that I still love my Model 3 overall, think it’s better than other EVs available at the same price point for a variety of reasons, and I have no intention of...
  31. AutomaticMan

    What happens when you drive from UK to Europe? Headlight? Self drive overtaking?

    When I lived in the US I once had an American motorcycle cop pull me over with blue lights flashing and I’m 90% sure the reason was that he was thinking about buying the same model of motorcycle I had. Spent a good 10 minutes looking around my bike and asking me questions about it, then said...
  32. AutomaticMan

    What happens when you drive from UK to Europe? Headlight? Self drive overtaking?

    Oh yes, sorry, I’m on holiday so checking this forum on my phone and missed that. Well, that is truly bizarre then. If the beam deliberately kicks up on the same side regardless of which side of the road you drive on, how can that possibly be correct? Surely either the LHD cars are wrong or the...
  33. AutomaticMan

    What happens when you drive from UK to Europe? Headlight? Self drive overtaking?

    Sounds like the Service Centre just read the manual and believed it. I literally saw with my own eyes the ‘kick up’ on the left blinding French people, and then blinding me when they flashed their headlights angrily at me 😄 One thing that would be interesting to know is whether the cars in left...
  34. AutomaticMan

    What happens when you drive from UK to Europe? Headlight? Self drive overtaking?

    Was thinking about this… how can you raise a service ticket without booking an appointment? No point in me bringing my car to a service centre for this, they just need to flag it to Tesla so their engineers can add changing the Matrix beam pattern to suit the country you drive to (as the manual...
  35. AutomaticMan

    What happens when you drive from UK to Europe? Headlight? Self drive overtaking?

    I’m not sure what 5 seconds of adjusting I should have done? As others have posted, the beam kicks up so much on the left that if I adjust the beam down enough that the left side of the beam doesn’t dazzle oncoming drivers, the centre/right side of the beam would be so low that I wouldn’t be...
  36. AutomaticMan

    What happens when you drive from UK to Europe? Headlight? Self drive overtaking?

    Nope, still broken. The low beam pattern kicks up on the left. Many annoyed French drivers flashed their headlights at me on my drive along country roads this evening! Bit dangerous really, the manual saying things that aren’t true like that. I might have bought one of those beam blanking...
  37. AutomaticMan

    What happens when you drive from UK to Europe? Headlight? Self drive overtaking?

    Thanks! I was sure I read that. But posts further up the thread suggest it doesn’t actually work? Maybe a bug they’ve since fixed? I haven’t had a chance to test my beam pattern against a wall since I’ve been here, but I’ve had no headlight flashes from annoyed French people thus far so I’ll...
  38. AutomaticMan

    What happens when you drive from UK to Europe? Headlight? Self drive overtaking?

    Just resurrecting this thread, any newer info? I’m currently on a ferry to Dieppe and my Model 3 is sleeping peacefully on the car deck below. I thought I had read in the manual that my lights will automatically change the beam pattern for driving on the right when I get to France, but reading...
  39. AutomaticMan

    Too picky on collection day?

    I must say, I am starting to think this myself. On collection day the principle of not getting a pre-scratched car seemed important to me. Now, 2000 miles in I expect I've already scratched/stone-chipped it worse somewhere else myself. The picture makes the scratch look worse than it is I...
  40. AutomaticMan

    Too picky on collection day?

    Thanks all! To be fair to myself on the seat, the premise of my post was that I feared I was being ridiculous, so clearly I had at least started to feel that way myself 😆 The story on the seat is that as I was looking at the car with the Tesla bloke stood next to me I spotted the creased bit...
  41. AutomaticMan

    Too picky on collection day?

    Having read all about the need to perform inspections on new Teslas when you collect, I went over my Model 3 with a fine tooth comb on collection day. I found two things that I reported to the chap, and he showed me to take pictures and book them in for repair on the app. One is a scratch on the...
  42. AutomaticMan

    New M3 LR owner - what has surprised me so far

    That Ioniq 5 idea sounds good to me! Perhaps Tesla can steal it for a future software update. I had the same thought as you regarding bonging and EAP, so I did try that. Sadly, it doesn't make it any better. Perhaps on a very quiet road it might, but in normal daytime UK motorway traffic the...
  43. AutomaticMan

    New M3 LR owner - what has surprised me so far

    Thought I'd post some impressions of my first week and a bit of Tesla M3 LR ownership, particularly some of the things I've been surprised by. This will include both good surprises and not so good surprises. Therefore, I want to give the bottom line up front - I bloomin' love this car!! 😍 I know...
  44. AutomaticMan

    Some Tidal interface questions

    Thanks! Yeah, I tried it out yesterday and I think bundled Spotify will be the solution for me! At least unless they do roll out an Apple Music app at some point.
  45. AutomaticMan

    Some Tidal interface questions

    Hmm… if it is I can’t tell 😂 Seems better than the quality of music from my phone via Bluetooth anyway. Haven’t done a back to back comparison with Tidal though. But free Spotify doesn’t sound bad to my ear anyway
  46. AutomaticMan

    Some Tidal interface questions

    Yep, first thing I checked. No change unfortunately 😕 But I’m thinking the ‘free’ (well, free with Premium Connectivity anyway, so I guess ‘bundled’ is more accurate) Spotify account may be fine for me anyway, or at least no worse than Tidal, assuming my workaround to get to playlists works...
  47. AutomaticMan

    Some Tidal interface questions

    I'm running the same software, and definitely a problem for me. Maybe it doesn't affect every car and/or every iPhone? The way I would describe it is if I set the volume to something like say 85% using the car's scroll wheel it would go to that volume and the volume bar on the screen would go to...
  48. AutomaticMan

    Some Tidal interface questions

    Thanks! That sounds like good news, is that true of the bundled Tesla account that comes with Premium Connectivity, or only with an actual premium Spotify account? If so, I might just try the bundled Spotify for a bit and see how I get on. Obviously, it has limited functionality, but it looks...
  49. AutomaticMan

    Some Tidal interface questions

    Well that was plan A for me. But I've discovered another annoying bug (and there are threads on this going back years, so it's not just me, and it seems like they're in no rush to fix it) that means you can't set the volume properly using bluetooth from an iPhone. If you try to set the volume to...