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I just got my 2 week Window. June 10-24. March order. M3 AWD White, Black, Aero. Phoenix. I've changed the config probably 4 times deciding between AWD / RWD but settled on AWD finally. Finally going to do a test drive today at the Tesla shop :)

So I get that, and I don't disagree...to a point. But most peoples cars serve as their daily commute cars and also their cars for everything else. Get a call about you sick mom in the middle of the night and have to road trip the next morning? Jump in the car, get gas on the way out no big...

That's why I wanted to comment on that. Yes you should investigate, but not for the reason you may initially have thought. As people transition from ICE to EV there's going to be a learning curve because not all of the relevant information is published. I know I average 22mpg when on the...

So, to answer the "Worth Investigating further?" question. It is emphatically YES. Here's the thing. The stated range by Tesla is based on a set of not necessarily real world driving conditions. Anything you do outside of that very narrow criteria they used it determining that stated range...

When I read that graph, take the first box for instance, it tells me that after 55'ish% the degradation starts kicking in much higher. Unfortunately Tesla hasn't made my decision for me. Both models fit my range requirements, cheaper is not always better, I'm looking for the model that has...

From what I've read, the least impact on the battery is moderate depth of discharges in the middle of the battery capacity. So a 20% depth of discharge from 60% to 40% would have the least overall impact on the battery (versus 100-80 or 20-0 for instance). Only LFP's need to go to 100 for the...

I do get a sense of double-speak when hearing some of Tesla's official statements. I feel it's a bit like my local oil change place that says I need to change the oil every 3k miles. Always has me wondering, is it really best for the car, or best for you? There's a lot of battery research on...

Yes, interesting feedback, thank you. I am looking for car utopia. I have enough bumps in my life without looking for them ;) I'd prefer my car NOT add to the situations I have to handle in life lol. I want a car that will have a low cost of ownership (don't mind the initial upfront) and...

Yes, thanks for the input. I do see a lot of 100k mileage videos, most of the are pretty short duration, like they've owned the car 3 years. Obviously a lot of this is due to the fact the cars haven't been out that long, but given the things that can go wrong that I've seen about on youtube...

I guess that's what I've been reading about. Sure, fewer parts to fail, but they are indeed expensive parts. I've also read comments about how Tesla's in general don't have the same level of fit and finish a traditional car maker has just due to experience in production processes for that type...

Hello, First off, excellent forum, love all the info on here! I'm looking for a long term, low cost vehicle to replace my 2005 Lexus ES. It's has about 250k miles on it and has been really great. I've probably spent a few thousand dollars on it over and above normal maintenance costs (oil...

I guess that's what I'm trying to do between NCA / LFP choices. Try to minimize downstream costs... Is the LFP a better long term choice because 1) it may last longer due to cycle count and 2) if I do have to replace it, will it be less expensive because it's an overall cheaper battery and 3)...

My daily driving should typically be 50 miles with occasional longer drives. Keeping to a 20% DOD should be no problem and charging to 50 or 60% whatever isn't an issue. I feel since my driving is kind of minimal, as in not many long commutes, I have a lot of flexibility in my charging...

I understand they don't just stop working, but since the rate of degradation once it reaches that magic number is not linear, you might as well consider it EOL for estimation purposes. I'm trying to learn if I can control the rate of degradation meaningfully by adopting the best charging...

Yes, and that's also where my "cycle count" fear began... This graph shows that while NCA "can" get 1500 cycles, that's not the norm. But then I see an article with this table that shows how cycle counts can change with reduced DOD.

The Arizona Freeway speeds are 75, doing 80 is pretty routine. That's only about 1/2 the driving though. The reason for diving into the numbers so deeply is wanting to understand how to best prolong the life. For instance, if the quote "Current battery modules should last 300k to 500k miles...

I appreciate your replies. I'm trying to get my head wrapped around all of the numbers going into this. I am loosely interpreting (incorrectly obviously) a cycle as a charging event. I do plan to keep the car 20 years, that's my goal anyway. I am trying to take into account 1) normal...

From what I understand, Musk is quoted as saying the batteries are good for 1500 cycles. That also jives with a chart I saw that said 10-90 charging will result in 1500 cycles before significant degradation. So those 2 things agree with each other and I've seen numerous high mileage posts to...

Thanks for the reply. I am heavily leaning towards the LR simply for the dual motor, AWD and that sweet premium stereo. Also, I have rationalized that I would just consider the LR a standard range assuming I'm charging to 80% but I'm picking up faster recharge speeds being able to charge to...

This is the most interesting data I've found so far regarding it. "For example, previous reports on cycle aging of LFP cells indicate a tipping point at temperatures of 5 °C–10 °C, with degradation rates increasing both above and below this temperature.26 Studies of LFP cells that considered...

Debating between the RWD vs AWD and wanted to see if anyone had insight into battery longevity based on temps if living in a high heat area? I do like the extended range of the AWD, however based on degradation and charging recommendation does it really have extended range? And if so, for how...