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  1. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Depends on how the car is designed. If you're talking about a 1959 Cadillac, the engine makes the car more dangerous because no one thought about crash safety back then, at least not in terms of engineering. The story is completely different with modern cars. Engines can be part of the crash...
  2. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    You're attacking the messenger, which is fine. But you can't say the Model S is better because it's more efficient and then turn around and play down the better efficiency of the Leaf when I point it out because it doesn't have a Tesla badge. So, I short handed my comments because if you can't...
  3. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Just so everyone's clear, a whole bunch of stuff is being conflated. When we started reviewing the cars for this particular comparison, not only do we have a two 220 volt chargers at the office, but we're three miles from a supercharger station. The not having a 220-volt charger at my house, oh...
  4. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    You've lost all credibility with me x2.
  5. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Now there's a GREAT question. Boy, that's very difficult to answer. Car of the Year -- unlike the video in question -- is NOT a comparison test. We use a whole bunch of criteria to determine the winner, and please always keep in mind the OF THE YEAR part. Many people discount it and say, "You...
  6. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Oh yeah, the Benz will depreciate like a rock.
  7. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Actually, since we did the test, it's the battery pack. 2013 Tesla Model S P85+ Long-Term Update 4 - Motor Trend
  8. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Rethink my position? I've been one of the Model S's literal biggest advocates. Again, my Tesla credentials are that I voted it MT's 2013 Car of the Year, the first (and I'll argue most important) award the car won. Every single thing that's been said, I've said, both personally and...
  9. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    You're not even reading what I'm writing. The M5 is a pretty blah car and I'd MUCH rather have/drive a Tesla than it. The Tesla would SMOKE the M5 in the comparison.
  10. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Junk? That's a ridiculous comment, and one that's dripping with "pure bias." Let's say I live in Germany and would like to go 155 mph, a speed at which the "pure junk" S-Class is totally cool at but that the Model S can't go. I know this because years ago I took a Model S up to 132 mph for three...
  11. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    I totally compared them. Hence, comparable. - - - Updated - - - The Model S would smoke the M5. That would be boring to make.
  12. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    The Leaf is more efficient. TRUTH! as the kids would say. And I'm hardly a troll. I am here to defend my opinion that after spending two weeks with both cars, given $125K to buy one of them with, I'd choose the Mercedes because I like it better.
  13. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Even if I had a Supercharger in my bed and only had to drive 5 feet, those five feet would let me know that the S550 is the better car.
  14. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    I drove about 300 miles yesterday. I'll be driving 350 miles on Sunday and 300 miles on Monday. But I'm weird.
  15. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    I'm not debating it!! And if you REALLY cared about the environment, you'd be driving a Nissan Leaf! - - - Updated - - - You're talking the W221, last gen S-Class versus the Model S. The Tesla is a better car. The old S-Class was good, but missing the special sauce of the W222.
  16. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Oh, you're asking me to be logical? Good luck!! - - - Updated - - - People tend to defend their purchases, especially their $100K ones. Though, we know a guy here who ran out of electricity with Model S and gave it to his wife. He went out and bought an S-Class. What about his experience...
  17. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Oh jesus christ. It was neither. It was me charging the car at a house I moved into three weeks earlier. And I don't have a dryer socket. I have natural gas.
  18. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    I'd say the aluminum (lighter) Jaguar XJR would smoke both cars in an autocross. Our figure eight test is a pretty good approximation of an autocross (kinda) minus a stop box. But it tests accel, braking, turn in, steady state cornering and corner exit. All the while steering feel, transmission...
  19. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    That's an excellent point. As you may imagine, when you're filming a video you say about 3 hours worth of stuff and it gets edited down to 11 minutes. My intent was to talk at length about that (and I did, it just didn't make the final cut) and I said that if the energy going into a Model S is...
  20. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Oh, you want to play THAT game? Then the Jaguar XJ is better than the Tesla. I should add that stuff like our figure eight is limit handling. In terms of going down the road, the Mercedes drives better. [/COLOR]
  21. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    A couple of general points I'm not saying the Model S is bad. I'm saying that in comparison to the S-Class, it's not the better car. If this would have been against say the BMW 7 Series, the Model S would have hit it out of the park. Alas (for the Tesla faithful), the new S-Class is one of the...
  22. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Gas mileage sucking, not a deal breaker. I didn't hate the exterior. In comparison to the Tesla, it's worse. It's not bad, however. Slower? Fine, but 0-60 mph in 4.7 seconds is what the British would call adequate. Performed worse? Um, 25.2 around the figure eight is excellent. The Model S just...
  23. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    I think it is valid. This is different from having a chime go off if your seatbelt isn't belted. This is just a nudge. It might only save a handful of lives, but so what? Lives are lives the way I see it. And yes, if you have a totally regimented life and a relatively short commute, electric...
  24. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Hmm. Well, let me tell you about the week I had. We had the car at the test track. Sure, no one ever goes to the test track. But let's just call it an unexpected trip. Anyhow, I got in the car with an indicated 75-mile range and I had a 45-mile commute home in 90-degree weather. Of course, going...
  25. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    I should have said, 16 mpg the way I drive. I'm an environmental terrorist. Normal people would probably see 23 mpg. My Range in the Model S is pretty dismal, as well. Because we wound up charging it at the Supercharger so many times (many takes for video, plus it's down the street from our...
  26. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    I would say the S-Class trumps the Model S in terms of safety. I know people like to tout the "5.4 stars" (whatever that means) that the Model S got, but the Benz actively avoids accidents. It also does all it can to mitigate accidents and injury. For instance, when you close the rear doors, the...
  27. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    That's not a question, but which MB are you trading in?
  28. J

    Ask Me Anything -- Motor Trend's Jonny Lieberman Defends Picking the Benz

    Hey All, It's been brought to my attention that a great many people feel I picked the Mercedes-Benz S550 over the Tesla Model S because of shiny lights. I didn't, but those lights were shiny. I figured I should come here and defend my decision a little. Especially considering that I've been a...