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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Does that mean he wont give Trump a sweet heart loan to pay legal bills?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    People that say the grid cant handle an immediate transition should be just pushed aside. No one is suggesting that it is possible with the grid, but more importantly it isnt possible period. It is utter nonsense, so the hypothetical is nonsense. With that pushing to transition as fast as...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Sure they could, lets not act like TSLA cant as well. The point is we feel the risk vs reward is substantially higher now with TSLA. Megapacks will do well, but I honestly dont see how people can believe the target dates for sub $30K model. I base that on the non launch of the Semi. I am sorry...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Isnt a part that can go into any car a part that works in both cars. So Y casts wouldnt work in 3 and 3 wouldnt work in Y so not shared.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    2 years ago didnt think Elon would go nuts. I like many other feared missing out. Still love Tesla, just dont trust the leader. No one can give me any reason why over next 2 years expect much of a run up. This isnt like when Model 3 and Model Y came out and people doubted ramp. Even Tesla in the...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Says a lot that have to go back to 2014, doesnt it.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Can anyone come up with anything that Elon said turned out to be just plain true. Any date that was real, any stat that was real? Really anything? By the way my family finished getting out of TSLA today. In total a little under $4M. Feels good to not feel any need to defend Elon any longer...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So what do you think is the catalyst that could drive a 2x, 3x change? Right now 2x doesnt even put us back where it was a couple years ago. Reveal of model 2 isnt going to cause a rapid appreciation. We know it is coming, I say likely post 2025. Honestly why would you trust dates at all with Elon?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And Elon has been infected by the Broke Mind Virus
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Does Tesla still have Musk? He seems so preoccupied with Twitter and revenge.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It not just that he picks a side its what he presents. He has been saying the immigrants are being let in to vote for Biden. He pushed that mail in ballots arent tied to a voter so you can just fill them out and send them in through ballot harvesting. He isnt even educating himself on how mail...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You make the assumption the $3M doesnt grow in other stocks. Last chunk of cash we had we put into NVDA. Would have been nice to have cashed out TSLA then and put in NVDA. Its a couple things. Does anyont think TSLA will do anything substantial before the sub $30K model is ramping? I dont and...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And this is why my wife and I on Saturday decided to sell all of our TSLA, which is about $3M worth. His spewing factually incorrect conspiracy theories about great replacement theory and election fraud was the last straw. TSLA isnt going anywhere the next couple years with slowed ramps and new...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Lyriq Nissan - The new one. I forget its name. Lucid Air - Didnt expect that. Biggest point in the advertisement was eliminates range anxiety Volvo - Lots of Volvo for both the new small SUV and plug in hybrids Subaru Solterra Kia - General lineup
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    My wife and I watched the 3 Equalizer movies this week. 2 on Hulu and 1 on Netflix. Amazed me how many EV advertisements that were pushed to us. I have never seen so many. Not the type I really would want to see from Tesla, but I didnt expect to see so many. Dont know if it is because we are in...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And people believed it even with no place to build the CT. I for one have a very hard time believing any time table (and lots of other things) that Elon says now. He has betrayed trust far to much.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I understand that, but if the price ends up being the same why will it cause more people to buy. Also I would like to know if say demand did increase what capabilities do the factories have to ramp further to meet demand? Can they? Can enough 2170 batteries be produced to make more Model 3s...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why? Does Tesla feel that with lower interest rates they can raise prices. So doesnt that imply the actual take home price for a car stays the same. So no real increase in demand?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    How many actually built? To me until a few different customers are using them it isnt pilot production it is partner prototype production. At least my son is going to work for Pepsi/Frito Lay and he may actually see one. Looks like Giga Nevada new facility is a year away at best.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What about the 2 front and rear casting Model Y becoming the dominant Model Y form factor. Shouldnt moving Model Y volume production to that version(s) lower the cost of production.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Quick question. Is Semi really launched?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We all were suckered into Cybertruck coming sooner. There was no factory and cant say that Gigafactory being built was slowed by pandemic. There was no other place to build it and we ignored that.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    My biggest issue is that it looks like to me that Tesla didnt better prepare for 2024 in 2023. From losing IRA tax credits on the Model 3, to the delay in launching the Model 3 Highland in USA. To not shifting production around at facilities to better make use of them. Amazes me that Fremont is...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Not all mortgages just adjust. Maybe I am wrong, but most people have fixed rate mortgages. So they dont just go up when interest rates go up. Only new and refinance and who would refinance to a larger rate?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Marketwatch.com reporting the lower growth rate in 2023 as lower volume in 2024 compared to 2023. People dont know how to read.
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    California bans small gas engines including gas generators

    It was like 120 degrees. That is also the summer when Tesla kicked off Virtual Power Plant in California. VPP kicked off in July 2022 with 1200 homes and by the time the heatwave ended nearly 5000 homes were supplying energy to the grid and now up to 8000. Oh and the ask was to cut AC to 78...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Oh boy and Ben Shapiro is telling him not to worry about Climate Change because people in Miami can just sell property when the city is flooded.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    He certainly wont exaggerate anything
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You really have to wonder what cars will be eligible for the $7500 tax credit in 2024. No Congress wont change a GOP controlled house is more likely to outlaw electric vehicles than do anything to push more EV sales.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Biggest CyberTruck delay was factory to build it. Not to mention the new manufacturing processes needed to build it. Honestly it is why none of us should have ever believed the initial timeframe for production. What were we thinking? There was no place to build the thing.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Has anyone heard of any Cybertruck deliveries since the delivery event. If Tesla doesnt deliver a nice amount before end of year then the delivery event really seems like just promotion. Sorta like the Semi deliveries. I hope this isnt the case.
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    Wondering why you can't discuss Elon's tweets? Preserved as an example.

    He said a post that echoed what triggered the Tree of Life Synagogue massacre. Dont downplay what he did.
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    Wondering why you can't discuss Elon's tweets? Preserved as an example.

    Not just his tweets, but tweets he elevates by responding to. You have to wonder why he even sees some of these people he ends up promoting. Maybe it is the "For You" algorithm that puts those tweets in front of him. Who controls the "For You" algorithm? Oh before saying not investment related...
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    Supercharger - Key West, FL

    Ahh we can charge up when we get Bagels. Great little NY Deli in the same plaza with great bagels.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I used to and now Elon gets brought up and I wont defend him. I do spend time every day responding to FUD articles on news aggregators. People ask me why when they are just trolls. I do it because without it people dont see whats real. Yet I refuse to defend Elon antics.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Im sure this will get out to the general public. You know the people telling me the last few days you cant get a Tesla lower than $60K.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Or let hitmen from oil companies do the opposite. Still say this is the sort of advertisements needed. Not an advertisement showing CT being shot by a machine gun.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So tired of seeing FUD article after FUD article. Barrons - The EV Meltdown Is Obscuring a Disaster for Industrial Stocks Fortune - Elon Musk’s affordability problem—Tesla is fast running out of early adopters, but its cars are still too expensive for most buyers If only someone or some company...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Real question is which happens 1st bankruptcy or Lucid cars with NACS
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why advertise to existing owners. I want FUD fighting advertising.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    OK. It is the activation I was talking about. Alexa is how we control most of our house. Lights, Heat/AC our biggest problem is 2 Alexa somewhat close to each other causing confusion. Set a timer for cooking and the family room picks it up, create another and the kitchen picks it up. Dont think...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I would like if you could initiate voice commands with a word. Like Amazon does with Alexa. Like "Tessie, Wipers On" rather than hitting button and then say "Wipers On"
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You want to vote the vast, vast, vast majority of revenue and economic prosperity of the state out of the state. You honestly think anyone comes to Illinois for anything besides Chicago?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So spent some time fighting EV FUD today and got a new crazy statistic thrown at me. Did you know that the US grid needs 700% more electricity to support a conversion to all EVs.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I still dont know why people go through tires. We simply dont. Our 2015 Model S had to have the tires replaced once and we sold at 120K miles. Our 2018 Model 3 still has 2 original and 2 replaced because of picking up a bolt. I guess if you jackrabbit start all the time it could wear them down...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We go to a Sushi restaurant that uses these. They deliver the appetizers which you take off yourself and server deliver the Sushi.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Amazes me people dont see this. At this point EVs are very political and politics therefore have a material effect on Tesla stock. When I push back on EV FUD elsewhere I get more attacked as a libtard then the data I present.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    One thing that I would like to see added to Navigation is way to put in your own preferred routes. There are a few places we go where the Navigation doesnt pick the preferred way we like to go. Say give option to remember the route I drive and then save that.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You mean complimentary wrap? Only issue is that isnt permanent.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We have our Tesla account hooked up with M1 Finance where we get 10% back for all Tesla charges.