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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Y'know, if we had Elon back going all in on the new platform unboxed process, then I'd be just as thrilled. Instead we have Elon back going all in on autonomy, something he has proven over and over that he's utterly unable to understand. He's been drastically wrong repeatedly and there's no...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    I verified today that the free supercharging miles can be used on other cars on my account. I currently have four, but two are in the process of being sold, including the one that I transferred free supercharging from. Oddly (and presumably mistakenly) that car is still getting free...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    It's a feature that comes from being aware of what's around the vehicle, specifically in the space the door opens into. So what you're asking is if they are putting engineering effort into making the spatial awareness of Tesla Vision a complete replacement for what they got from the ultrasonic...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    No, it's just another Tesla Vision limitation. When Tesla Vision eventually works properly, that full opening behavior should return. Or so I'm told. I'll believe it when I see it.
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    It surprised me when I got my Model Y in September, 2023, so it changed before then. Tesla may have announced it somewhere, and it was documented, but they certainly never informed me that after I referred myself I wouldn't be getting the referral award or the buyer award, but only the loyalty...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    There is no self-referral any more. In fact there is no referral of existing owners at all. Now there are Loyalty incentives for existing owners. Makes more sense for Tesla that referral is rewarded only when Tesla gets a new customer.
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    Just tell them to give them to you and let you worry about it. Those free supercharging miles could theoretically acquire value if you got another new Tesla and transferred free supercharging away from this new one.
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    Took delivery today. Everything looked good except the door handles on the driver's side don't align exactly. I don't see any other indication that the doors are off, cut we'll see if they can adjust it. The delivery advisor said he'd create a due bill and took pictures, but I see no evidence...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    I forgot this one: -paint or interior color upgrade on a vehicle from existing inventory (current Tesla owners) Useless for the Model X tax edition, since it's the MSRP that matters. But I'm seeing Model Y inventory with $4-5000 discounts already, so this means you can get a new inventory...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    Well, you can either turn on FSD or you can't. https://www.notateslaapp.com/img/containers/article_images/tesla-screen/auto-speed.jpg/18b1e2cfcbe6749d65d9ab3af5313ff5.jpg It won't just be on automatically because you have to agree that you understand a variety of warnings.
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    You don't have to subscribe to premium connectivity. It is just there for a year. The free three months of FSD should just appear as well, but it might take a day or two. Have you tried turning it on in the Autopilot settings?
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    These are the "take delivery by March 31" incentives I am aware of. -FSD transfer -FUSC transfer -5000 free supercharging miles on purchase -5000 free supercharging miles on trade-in -$1000 discount if you have an early Cybertruck reservation -one year of premium connectivity (affects only Y...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    Thanks for following up! Oldest story in the world: boy gets girl, boy loses girl, boy and girl find each other again and live happily ever after. Hope it works for me. And let's also hope that when they finally figure out how not to charge your old car for free that they also don't also...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    I wrote "tell me whether they get any documentation saying the transfer will happen, or whether they just have to trust Tesla to do it without any contractual language." I'm aware of what's in the app, but that isn't part of the purchase agreement so far as I can tell. If there isn't something...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    Fremont Tax edition Ordered 3/12, then hold, then restarted 3/18 Build Date: 3/8 Received VIN: 3/18 Estimated Delivery Date: March 23, 2024 Well, they played the same game as last time despite my asking the SA after I got the VIN assigned to verify that it wasn't going to try a home delivery...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    Some time today (3/19) a newly configured Model X went from an estimated delivery of March to March - April. This is for delivery near the Fremont factory, so no significant transit time.
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    I talked to a different SA at a different showroom and the story was the same. If the new car has free unlimited supercharging, the supercharging miles promotion is useless. The promotion miles are locked to the VIN of the new vehicle. Meanwhile, I had let my order be put on hold when I got...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    Can you go try it on a different car on your account and report back? SA told me it was locked to the new car's VIN, although that seems unlikely to me.
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    I went by a showroom and talked to an SA there. He of course knew nothing of the rumored front bumper camera and such. He told me my car was built on March 8, same day I ordered and before I filled out the registration stuff. Is that believable? I said the language on the web site seemed to...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    It will be nice if that turns out to be true, but on Tesla's Supercharging Transfers page, in the FAQs, it says: > If I order a new vehicle before March 31, 2024, am I guaranteed a free Supercharging transfer? I'd suggest that anybody hoping this will happen get it in writing. I don't think...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    And... VIN assigned this morning, so within a few hours of my finishing the registration tasks. Fremont Tax edition Ordered 3/8 Build Date: 3/?? Received VIN: 3/12 Estimated Delivery Date: March, 2024 So what's going on with that Tesla Vision warning. "During this transition, some features...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    Actually I should have originally written: Estimated Delivery Date: March, 2024 And it looks like that hasn't changed for orders today. I've filled out their registration and other items on Monday, 3/11, so they'll assign a VIN. Near as I can tell, Tesla's latest promotion on getting a free...
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    March 2024 MX Delivery Info Share

    Fremont Tax edition Ordered 3/8 (today) Build Date: ?? Received VIN: ?? Estimated Delivery Date: ?? Planning to transfer FSD and FUSC from my 2017 Model S. Plus the $1000 Cybertruck reservation discount. Plus the 5000 free supercharging miles, which I can use on one of my other Teslas. Any...
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    Whatever happened to the front bumper camera and ambient lighting?

    Wondering when you put in your order that resulted in getting a VIN assigned on March 3.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It wasn't anything like that -- those numbers are nonsense. My December, 2017 build Model 3 was VIN #...2300, early enough to get the original Alcantara headliner. Still going strong.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You know, Imagining that if AGI exists that it will make its existence known to random idiots rather than hide is making a pretty huge assumption.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Another article on this with more information: Why One Of Tesla's Toughest Critics Just Rescued Three Abandoned Tesla Roadsters Seems like Dan's a real Tesla fanboy behind his FSD derangement: two 2010 roadsters, a 2012 Model S, and two Model 3s (of unspecified vintage). Drives nothing but...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/the-three-tesla-roadsters-from-china-find-an-unlikely-buyer Kinda bizarre. But I'm glad those Roadsters have found a home where they will be treated well. Maybe it will keep keep Dan off the street and out of trouble.
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    Going from a S to a X

    C'mon people, why do I have to correct my own errors? I wrote: Of course, I will, because the Model S has different size wheels and tires now. In fact, the front and rear are now different! The new 19" rims and tires are now a bit wider on the front and even wider on the rear. At least the...
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    Going from a S to a X

    I'm planning on upgrading my 2017 Model S LR to a new Model S LR or maybe a new Model X LR too. I'd go with the 5-seater base model of the Model X because nothing else gets the $7500 tax rebate. Getting to transfer FSD and FUSC and get $1000 off for my Cybertruck reservation is just too good...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Would be nice, but I've tried the tesla.com/tradein page to get the trade-in value of my 2017 Model S with FSD (and FUSC) on 2/3, 2/4 (around mid-day) and just now (after 10PM PST on 2/4). Same result every time. The trade-in value is $20,300 (wow, that's low!) and it says "Includes value of...
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    Israel/Hamas conflict

    Riiiiiight. This is the argument of a person who says: "No, let's not do the appendectomy, as the patient will no doubt die someday anyway." And the notion that after 20,000+ dead by Israeli violence that stopping the violence constitutes "rewarding" the victims is beyond ridiculous.
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    Israel/Hamas conflict

    Nonsense. The violence is owned by Israel now. At least 99% of all the violence going on is perpetrated by Israel now. If they stop, the violence stops.
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    Israel/Hamas conflict

    No, that's just a bizarre belief based on a lifetime of being lied to and believing it. "Other benefactors" include Netanyahu and his cronies. Well documented. (A brief history of the Netanyahu-Hamas alliance | Opinion)
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    Israel/Hamas conflict

    I see very little on this thread that isn't just a disingenuous repetition of Israeli propaganda. It's an embarrassment that people here can't admit there's a difference between what is true and what Israel claims. So far as I can tell, the actual truth is that Israel's government consists...
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    Israel/Hamas conflict

    And I think it's difficult for partisans to untangle Hamas from Palestinians. Seems like a swamp we needn't wallow in. Personally, I am disgusted with Israel's government, specifically Netanyahu and the religious fanatic parties that support him. I believe they are responsible for murder...
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    Russia/Ukraine conflict

    What's wrong with international waters off of Estonia or Finland? Seems convenient.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If it's still called a beta (which Teslascope says it is), then I'm expecting to be disappointed. Just like every other time a new, wonderful, amazing version has come out. Been getting updates to Autopilot since 2014, and updates to FSD since it came out. So long as I expect it to be nothing...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It's not the WSJ that is honest. It's Dan Neil. He's long been the only guy you can believe who writes for the WSJ.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    ... share buybacks... Well, perhaps Vaibhav Taneja wants to start his solo reign as CFO with "something different"? o_O This will be the first earnings report with Zach Kirkhorn no longer around to "ease the transition". It worries me that Zach is gone.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So what? Nothing I would bother to read. I doubt anybody here would read it except for the purpose of finding out what kind of FUD is being slung now. It's totally irrelevant in forming opinions of Elon other than for credulous fools (none here, right?).
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You seem to think that people who perceive Elon as insane get there through some manipulation, rather than by reading his posts and listening to what he says. I'm sure that third parties amplify things, but people who have been following Tesla for a long time know very well that you have to...
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    Israel/Hamas conflict

    Sadly that "fringe minority" is in Netanyahu's cabinet and is running Israel now. Until they are gone, this horror will continue unabated. It's Netanyahu's war.
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    Israel/Hamas conflict

    This seems to be a pretty good primer on the situation in Yemen. https://engelsbergideas.com/essays/the-houthis-forgotten-war-goes-global/ Things seem to be escalating.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The Cybertruck is way too conventional to stand out at Burning Man. https://sfstandard.com/2023/08/30/burning-man-2023-see-the-cutest-and-wildest-art-cars-cruising-the-playa/ Besides, Burning Man is as non-commercial as possible, so they don't have an "official" anything. As for Mars? I...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Excellent analysis. Personally I would be shocked if Elon hadn't tried all the drugs mentioned and more. He makes a habit of being an "anything you can do I can do more extremely" kind of guy. But I would also be surprised if he has any sort of drug "problem" (meaning addiction). Although I...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    A prime example of the sort of garbage FUD I don't bother even looking at any more.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yup, agreed. But as it's a weekend, I'll respond to your other points. Sure. He praises his teams, he talks about what his businesses have done and will do. He answers questions about his businesses, etc. That's the stuff he should be talking about. And then he talks about things about...
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    Not receiving loyalty credits and Tesla is telling me to kick rocks

    If you were already a Tesla vehicle owner with an account when you bought it, they should have. If you were not, and got a referral, then you should have gotten a referral discount. As it's a fairly new thing, they might have screwed up if your situation is weird. Let us know how it turns out...