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I agree and think we should set a class action into motion, if that is not allowed then we should go to arbitration, does anyone know how to proceed on either option?

It is very unfortunate that a lot of owners are seeing the rear motor fail, it is a known design problem where the coolant leaks through the seals and kills the motor. I just had mine replaced for $6,500 and am very unhappy Tesla is not recognizing this design problem and recalling it. I used...

I totally agree with you, they should stand behind their product and offer to replace these, Mercedes had a design problem with their ABS brake system and did a recall to repair any failures up to 10 years and 100,000 miles. That is what a company that wants to keep their customers does.

It is probably a rear engine failure, most cars that year and model are seeing this fail due to a serious design flaw, fluid leaks into the motor. I would not drive mine with the noise it was making but since you disabled it I am not sure if driving is safe. I hope someone else can answer...

I just had mine replaced last week and the technician told me Tesla has not been making new units for our model for years, so all are reman. I did get a U model so I am hoping that is more reliable.

I just had mine replaced last week and the technician told me Tesla has not been making new units for our model for years, so all are reman. I did get a U model so I am hoping that is more reliable.

Thank you very much that was very helpful, I was hoping Tesla would recognize this as a design issue and start covering the cost but so far it does not look like they are.

I just had my 2014 P85D rear unit fail, they want $6,800 to replace it, 87,000 miles, any new news on Tesla helping with the replacement cost? Any improvement on the units they install , don't know if they still use reman and if they are any better now. John

My 2014 P85D started making a noise, I brought it in to Tesla and they diagnosed it with a rear motor failure. They want $6,800 to repair it . Is this a known problem ? Is Tesla covering this as a recall in any situations? The car is 9 years old and off warranty, I have about 86,000 miles on...

I absolutely agree with your post, it is not the total range that is the real problem, it is the slow charging at the supercharger.. I have driven the car from NC to NY and Florida and enjoyed the long trips but can no longer do it.. The slow rate of charge will add hours to the trip. This...

I think there are a lot of us in the same boat.. I hope they come up with a solution because taking trips with this situation will be difficult. John

thanks, I will look at both . John

I have a 2014 P85D with 55,000 miles, I believe my range is 235 miles but the car charges very slowly compared to prior to the 2019 SW. My SW is 2020.48.12.1. Does anyone know if my car will get the new SW that uncaps it? Assuming my car has the fire potential , does anyone know what...

Just got a call from my DS, I am scheduled to pick up my car at 9:30 am tomorrow, what a great Christmas present..... I will give you my first impression and pictures sometime tomorrow if I can drag myself out of the car. John

"Early Adopter" do you know what the total range of the P85D would be given your calculation? I was assuming we would get approximatley the 265 miles per charge that previous P85s were supposed to get.. Am I close? John

Let us know what happened and what they did to fix it John

I am hoping we will be on a truck tomorrow headed east , they said it would take a day or 2 and they have now had 2 full days..estimated delivery is currently 12/23. Will let you know when I hear it is on a truck. John

Congrats, maybe our cars will be on the same truck! Great news, let me know what your delivery date is, mine is currently 12/23 but until it gets on the truck they are not sure.

I was able to roll my deposit over to a new order.

Ok, my status just updated, looks like mine is done with production, now have to see how fast they can get it on a truck and headed east. Welcome back, John mcalpin Model S...

Thanks, looking forward to getting some good news this week, keeping my fingers crossed.. John

Thanks Early Adopter Thanks for the feedback and the thread...it seems there are a lot of people in the same boat as me...will keep you posted when I get more info. John

First time posting, I replied to the thread, not sure if that is how I was supposed to do it, if not could someone tell me how to open a new comment. I ordered a P85 in Oct and then changed the order to a P85D a week after the announcement. Was told I would get a December delivery. P85D , Blue...