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As of now, both are spoken for, but if one or more are not taken, I’ll let you know.

All yours. I sent you a message.

Sorry, folks, but when I said “local pickup only”, I kind of meant local pickup only.

I have two 30’ camco cords - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024ECIP0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I no longer have any use for and would love to get one or both a new home. pick up in Jersey City, NJ only. free or best offer.

As it turns out, the demo I purchased was indeed manufactured during a drls as not standard equipment period in 2014 and my car does not have drl lighting. I apparently had forgotten which car I had seen the drl button on. Personally I don't consider the lack of drls to be a big deal. Thanks...

I had checked. They are not there or are there but not on.

Some variant of 6.1, I believe (too cold to go outside to check right now). Yes, I've rebooted. There is no button to turn on. I'm in NY. Car was purchased just in late December of last year. It was manufactured some time around September of last year. Some of the staff at my service center...

Yeah, that's the wierd thing - the button is missing from the lights section of my control screen, although I could swear it was there when I got my U.S. car.

I've had my car for a month or so and just realized there are no drl's. Neither this car nor my first S, which had drl's, has the tech package. The people I've spoken to at Tesla think that drl's might be a part of the tech package, although it seems clear to me from the specs page on their...

Sorry, not even close. Closer, but still no cigar. Folks, please pm me with offers. Thanks.

Mobile Charging Kit Charging cable, adapters and bag from just purchased demo/loaner with under 5000 miles. Looks new - part that connects to car still has plastic protective wrapping. $500 obo. Free shipping in continental U.S. List Date: 12/29/2014 For more info, click here to...

Thanks, but just noticed that Tesla's latest installation guide for the nema 14-50 outlet specifies 6 awg wire for "installations under 100 feet". I am pretty sure that was not there when we did the installation, which uses 6 awg wire, but runs close to 200' from the breaker box. It runs cool...

Also, my car always dropped the charge down to 30 amps when at home, where I charged 99% of the time. (When I charged at other locations, it charged at 40 amps.) Thanks. Yeah, the issues all had to do with decreasing range. Its loss was a pretty distressing experience. From a purely financial...

Some observations from the owner (ex-owner, really) of a late, great 40 that was totaled by a falling tree a couple of weeks ago. (Need an extra charging cable, anybody?) For those new to the game, Tesla originally marketed and took deposits on cars with three battery sizes (40, 60 and 85), but...

Note that this could also be a hardware problem with the car. I had called Tesla with this problem, they checked my logs and told me they needed to bring it in. They picked it up this morning and are still trying to figure out why the car forces a drop to 30 amps.The loaner (same 5.9.44 as my...

Yes, this is the second time that number has changed for me. With 5.8 it dropped from 305 to 280. With 5.9 it is back up to 297.

I too am really interested in finding that out, as not only did my max rated (and ideal) range drop drastically, but based on the point at which projected miles matched rated miles, which dropped from 305 to 280, it became much more difficult to attain even that diminished range. If it has gone...

Tomas understood my question, you didn't. I didn't expect him to know where the extra range comes from; nor do I expect you to know where the extra range comes from. You may have your theories, but unless you work on Tesla's software, you don't and you can't know. I am not sure what...

Thanks for posting this, but where does it come from?

So, Super Gizmo, have you brought your car in for service yet? You posted in another thread - "If my problem is not addressed by the Service Center when my car is taken in for this issue and I am not given a clear explanation in writing, I will leave no stone unturned to get this out in...

My experience is that before 5.8 it was 305, and now it is 280.

My drop in ideal miles has tracked my drop in rated miles fairly precisely. Haven't kept a detailed history, though, so can't give you more information.

Exactly. But no matter how many times you or I or others make this point, that zombie theory refuses to stay dead. Might be just semantics, but I am uncomfortable with you saying I am confirming anything. From my perspective, only Tesla can confirm any theory regarding range loss being related...

I am fairly certain that there is no way for 40's to be rebalanced unless they are unlocked or future firmware upgrades allow for balancing at any charge level. Unless one of these happens, I believe that the max. range of 40's will continue to diminish. A 40 owner that I am in touch with...

Not exactly true. The "simple guy" OP (me) was not angry because he couldn't balance his battery. I was (and am) unhappy because I have experienced a 15% drop in range (yes, rated and ideal) in 9000 miles and that the primary response from Tesla I and others with similar complaints had received...

No, the problem is that Tesla won't provide an official definition of rated or projected miles, and different reps will give different definitions. And those computations have definitely changed over time. Is is easy to estimate the number of miles you can drive at any given point if you are...

No.

No, but I am pretty sure you are tied for first place. There are at least several of us who generally see a max charge of 116-118. And unless you are an exception, I am guessing your ideal range has plummeted as well.

1. My range has dropped 15%, not your 5%. Very big difference. 2. My ideal range, yes ideal range, has dropped the same 15%, from 160 to 136. I will guess that my mileage was somewhat comparable to yours at 136, but that is only a guess. You keep way better records than I do.

But won't that result in the battery becoming more and more unbalanced, which is not good for battery health, or is balancing irrelevant to battery health?

No, c'mon guys, you know, on the energy display on the touch screen, showing projected miles based on last 5, 15 or 30 mile energy usage. My projected miles has plummeted with 5.8 - i now need to drive under 280 wh/mile (virtually impossible this NY winter), to beat rated range versus 305 prior...

Projected, not rated. Thanks.

@eadopter, have you found the calculation of projected range has changed? Before 5.8, my projected matched rated at approx. 305 wh/mile. Now, my wh/mile needs to drop to 280 for them to match. So while my rated and ideal range has dropped significantly, my projected range has dropped even faster...

No, can't plot my max charge over time - haven't been keeping those kind of records. It seems to drift down and then to plateau for a while - as I recall, my first plateau was at 136 or so. And I have been checking my range immediately after charging completes.

If you have only 3000 miles on your car, that may be why you haven't seen much reduction in range. I have over 9000 miles - my first drop in range also brought me to around 136, as I recall. The fact that you are still at 136 and others below 120 kind of negates the theory that the reduction is...

It is not my fear, it is my reality. Soon after I got my car, I took a 120 mile trip and had 30 or 40 rated and 50 projected miles remaining. There is no way I would attempt that trip again, probably not even in the summer. It is a 75 mile round trip to visit my son. When I start out with...

Peter, yes, I have worked with service/engineering, as have others. The response I and others have received after Fremont looked at whatever it is they look at, is that my battery is operating normally. As I stated, I was told that a new firmware release would restore some of the lost mileage. I...

I have been extremely concerned for a while now about the very significant loss of maximum charging range in my 40kwh car. I am down from the initial 141 mile max rated range upon delivery to a 120 mile range, a decrease of approximately 15% after 9000 miles of driving. I have been unable to...

I understood you were trying to be helpful, and it is appreciated. I and others have taken our concerns to Tesla, but as far as I know, after Fremont looks at our batteries (remotely), we all get the same "battery is normal" response. Only time I ever hear any mention of "balancing" is here...

Can't speak for Fred, and I know you mean well, but if Tesla suggested that, I wouldn't have a very good reaction. Kind of like saying, "nice little car you got there, but unless you want to see it continue to degrade prematurely, give us another 11K." Not exactly, because we would get the...

@islandbayy, you may have misunderstood what Fred6936 was saying. I think he discharged his battery to the point of having 9 miles left, as you had suggested, then did a full (72%) charge and found his fully charged range dropped from 129 to 128.

Center console insert?

Peter, I know I haven't, and I have not heard of any 40 that has. Tesla has not yet admitted to anybody, as far as I know, that the range loss experienced by 40's is anything other than normal. I agree tha it would be interesting to have them unlock a 40, charge to 100% and see what happens...

Veronika, watch the video referenced in the above thread. It will explain decreasing range, but won't make you happy. - - - Updated - - - Veronica, I mean this one.

Great stuff. Thanks. I was wondering about my most recent drop in max charged mileage after the cold hit. Good to know that is to be expected. It does seem like we 40's are pretty well screwed, though.

@gear, ALways charge to 72%, every night, generally drive between 30 and 50 miles daily. Weekends sometimes more, rarely more than 80 miles a day, sometimes less. Until the cold winter hit in NY, I had a lifetime average of approx 290 wh/mile. Now we have a lifetime avg of approx 315.

I posted earlier thanking those who responded to my query regarding my very significant loss of range on my 40, but I got a msg stating that it needed to be approved by a moderator and I'm not sure it will ever show up. As others have said, I'm pretty sure the battery is never fully charged...

@yobigd20, we can charge to a maximum of 72% can go down to 0.

Thanks for the replies, everybody. @tdiggity - Tesla hasn't acknowledged that there is a problem. Based on my conversations with various employees, there is no way they are going to unlock the reamaining 20kwh on our batteries, even temporarily. @islandbayy - Yes, we can set the charge level...

So any suggestions for a 40 owner (limited to 72% charge on a 60kwh battery) who has seen >15% range loss after 9000 miles?