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My 2 cents ( take it for what it's worth, just one solitary guy's opinion ) : 1. It will be interesting to see if the Board OK 's this deal. If they do, it will be stuck in court at least until 2017, minimum. See Delaware law on this....despite the very recent by law changes, 2. In the...

There is a huge difference between TSLA and SCTY as a brand and an aspirational product / company : 1. When was the last time people stood in line and waited for a delivery 2 months out in the US, Canada , Europe or in Asia for a SCTY or any other solar panel company ? Ever ? 2. When was the...

I'm sorry ! Please tell me what SCTY has to do with sustainable transport ? Are you saying that TSLA's next car is going to be powered by solar cells, or that you are going be living in a mobile home with solar cells that will power your drive back and forth to work - and the grocery store -...

Why ? What if TSLA had convinced current battery supplier Pansonic to build Gigafactory on their own without a JV. And Panasonic had continued as battery supplier. After all, Gigafactory is not just for supplying TSLA car batteries. And, battery tech and material inputs may change 5-10 years...

IMO, better to split Tesla into 2. And have Tesla Energy combine with SCTY. Leaving Tesla Automotive separate. But, this too has many problems....debt , cash flow, management team, JB 's future etc.

The CC that is ON right now is really POOR ! Musk is saying BS stuff and no hard facts, just pie in the sky stuff. Some of his comments just don't seem like the logical Musk ....more like Donald Trump. With Musk and Antonio ( Board member ) recusing themselves, I can see Tesla Board...

1. These are 2 completely different and unrelated businesses. Yes, the solar part is common ...but one is Panels on a rooftop and the other is Batteries ! The home and the car are 2 different animals, Not everybody owns both. In the US or globally. OH, and yeah TSLA is global, SCTY is NOT...

From what I can tell, based on info on various boards, and with the expression a 'ear to the ground', the quality issues wrt to the X have made a very significant number of X reservation holders to delay or simply not confirm at this time. They don't want to be stuck with a problem X and just...

Funny, dude ! I guess he/she is in Greece ? Lol

In addition, I would note that Elon as the CEO of Tesla , with 5 kids, on a Sunday no less, after all the work that went into the Model 3 unveil, personally responded to customers, and potential customers with 41 personal tweets. Name me a single auto industry, or another CEO ( even Steve Jobs...

Of course he does. I agree. But, IMO it requires more than willpower. IF they go too far, too fast. what will happen to the tens of billions of $ - each of them - has invested in ICE car design, and manufacturing and assembly plants for millions of cars per year, that have not had financial...

Well, perhaps you didnt get the gist of what I was implying....that there are good reasons for Tesla and Elon to be just as competitive as Apple or Google or BMW...etc.

Well then why not show all the competition everything about the Model 3, put all autonomous software out on the internet free, open access, and share it, and while you are at it share all the software and technology that goes into the battery pack and drive train. I think anyone who confuses...

I'm not sure it's Bolt hate ! I think it's more the ethos of Steve Jobs. People here are a big Jobsian....don't care for shitty looking products that are personal ( you carry on you, or that carry you ! ).

Why are you assuming that the S performance will stand still by 2018 ? It's kinda like the max model of the IPhone 2 vs. original IPhone 4 etc. Did people complain, hey I paid more last year for my model, and this years model has better performance and price than last years model or the one...

Sub 3 sec ? I never said that...all I said was that the rumor was sub 4 sec ( maybe 3.8 sec) on Performance version of the Model 3. Elon already said today that Model 3 AWD will have faster performance than the sub 6 sec announced for the base model at the reveal, where he even said the base...

I dunno...maybe you are right. BUT, I think as a strategic and military type plan, Elon and Tesla are trying to do many things at once : 1. Gobble up/ suction/ vacuum up max potential EV demand (both current and latent ) in the $35-55K price band, so that Apple and/or Google will be forced to...

Dude, in reference to India roads, he said Model 3 would have that. For India I believe it will be in base model. And so, for us in the USA too...because of some roads in Texas, OK, etc. particularly in the absence of a truck in the current Tesla product line up.... Or maybe just only with...

Doubt it would as high as $20 K upgrade....remember there's not 300-500 k reservations for Model S and X combined. Optimization says the base car half the base of an S at $35 K, so maybe max at $10 K and sell 3 times as many option volume or more. I still gross profit margin on the upgrade...

Sorry see above. I already clarified this ....

Did Elon just delete his tweet about a spaceship like steering system ? Maybe he thought he divulged too much, too early and that it might actually confuse people and make them think it would be too geeky and too different ?

I will happily pay more than the $5 K to get under 4 secs 0-60 acceleration if it also includes say AWD. I think even at say $ 7500 for both included.

And add to above list that Ride suspension dynamically adjusts to ride height, STANDARD on M3.

Really ! I did not hear that either....I don't think so. Maybe poster is confused by article that claimed $28,500 price after rebate on Bolt?

That's why I said ' probably '. That's what has been rumored for the performance version. Maybe there will be more than one upgrade option ...AWD for under $5 K ( dunno how much maybe like $3,750) and then another option on top of that like Ludicrous mode that takes it to under 4 secs. Let's...

1. AWD with super responsive high performance acceleration, probably under 4 secs 0-60 mph, for under $5K 2. Spaceship type steering and dash standard 3. Room for a minimum of 2 child seats, maybe 3 narrow ones like in Europe 4. Can fit a bike or a surfboard , plus optional towing hitch 5 Base...

Folks, the point of this thread was IF Model 3 garners say 500 K or more reservations/preorders, what does it say about the immediate size of the market for the BOLT , since it will only rollout to the US market, at least initially with no announced plans by Chevy to launch it in Europe or Asia...

Defies logic, math, finance etc. Makes zero sense to add additional complexity to the single factory production line for very little financial gain !

Waste of space, time and effort ! Bob Lutz is a has been ! Low IQ old man who is now nearing the end of his intellectual life ! But he is a passionate man and that is great ! Passion, love and history mean nothing in this universe. The future always unfolds on its own, and always...

TOO big ! What are your dimensions ? Weight ? Without that this is just BS by non engineering types ! Artists and design people need to work collaboratively with others in engineering, production, supply chain , finance etc to end with a final design ! Otherwise, this is complete and UTTER...

Dude , you Rock ! Live your post !

MODS. Could you please move this to Investor Discussions ? Thanks

IF, as now probable, Tesla Model 3 garners 400-500 K preorders by this fall, with $ 1000 deposit, per car, I am quite sure many large global banks and even funds will be lining up to offer $1 Billion - $ 2 Billion of non-convertible debt, under VERY favorable terms !!! So, no equity raise will...

IF Tesla ends up with 300-500 K preorders for Model 3, prior to the Chevy Bolt sales launch, the Bolt is doomed to being a marginal, bit player! The Bolt team needs to ask some important questions: 1. Why is this happening : Passion, Excitement for Tesla and its designs ! Not much for Chevy...

It's a frickin Chevy ! Enough said ! POS cars that do not stand the test of time and Rattles and Shakes after a couple of years and looks like it 15 years old after 2-3 years ! That's why people prefer MB, BMW etc. Because they don't wanna be seen driving a POS in something that is a POS...

I nominate MorrisonHiker and his dopey buddy from CO ( what are you guys smoking btw ) for Daft of the Year Award ! We will all pitch in and get you guys a T shirt announcing the award !

Will buy the SUV version too ! Actually, that was what I preferred ! But this first 3 rocks and looks a bit like a muscle car....no other EV guy will make a muscle looking EV with Tesla type performance at this price point....with a Super Supercharger network to go along with it.....let one...

Noooooo ! None of us as daft as you ! And plus, unlike you....we have better things to do with our time ! Clearly, you don't have a job.....

Having noticed that more than 85 % of the people in line ( from global pics) were men , I think Tesla needs to pick up the optics for women who make up 50 PC of the market and are generally undeserved ( when the designers and primary decision makers are largely men !!!) . please LISTEN Tesla !

Folks ...pls don't underestimate how much ( this time around ) Musk and company are concerned about showing too many cards this early to their competition ! This goes for both the exterior and the interior. The front nose/grill is the easiest thing among other things to change. Also, I won't...

Ok ! Please go make your own EV with equivalent specs and price , will you ? Oh, sorry, you can't make anything? Can you ? Maybe we'll get to see your Dummy car ? Soon ?

You are bananas ! Can't believe you actually have a job ? Well, maybe you are unemployed ?

Maybe they are trying to confuse and throw a curveball for the competition ?

Me too ! I am pissed off ! No email confirmation for more than 14 hours ! But Amex charge went through instantaneously per Amex iPhone notification ! Tesla MIS department is screwed up ! Reflects poorly on the MIS department and Jay Vijayan .

Ok, no problem, if you don't like the duck face as you call it....then duck and run, !

Awesome ! Please cancel your reservation immediately, if you have one ! And find another car that meets your needs. We don't want losers driving Teslas....

Please cancel your reservation immediately ! Elon if he does not, please cancel it for him ! Good riddance !

Can't believe they can't make their servers handle just 20-30 k volume...compared to Apple ? No email conf. My Tesla down ! Terrible ! What ? They had no clue to expect this kind of volume ? NOT GOOD !

Me too ! Austin store. More than 5 hours gone by since....but no email confirmation. Got notification from Amex of $1000 immediately on my iPhone....but no email yet from Tesla ! Why are some getting the emails quickly and others not !?! Please Tesla, explain! Does this mean I go to the...