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WK057.... WOOW This is so great data, data that I have wanted to get my hands on for a looong time. And the internal resistance seems to by much higher than 0,053 Ohm at least if the voltage drop is actuallt 100 VDC+ on the terminals. Anyway great insight and thanks for sharing. Any chance...

Troy.... Thank you very much for this interesting overview where the pre October 10th is new to me. I have been searching high and low for a possible root cause for the confusion. A confusion that is causing some very different points of views among all of us Tesla enthusiasts. So according to...

Hi all From time to time I skim through the threads here and often I find interesting and valuable information. Other times I observe that much time is spend on trying to beat up one another (like above). Often I am tempted to put forward my personal point of view or to defend my likeminded...

Hi Zetopan... I am not quite sure I can follow you with the explanation that the battery can deliver the 691 hk to the two motors. Please see this link with our own investigation about the subject. http://teslaforum.dk/p85d/battery-technology/ http://teslaforum.dk/p85d/ It basically suggest...

Finally finally finally.... JP Straubel himself issue this paper that most of you have probaly seen already. I just put my comment to it. http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/tesla-all-wheel-drive-dual-motor-power-and-torque-specifications My comment is : Tesla defines and accept that there is a...

So after not being able to setup a face to face meeting with Tesla, nor get a proper reply to any of our 3 compliant letters we took it to the Danish medias today : http://ing.dk/artikel/paastand-tesla-kan-slet-ikke-levere-de-lovede-hestekraefter-178910 Ing is a engineerign newspaper...

Thx Tom66, very usefull. Torben_E

Interesting how this thread died out long ago... I find it more interresting than ever.... We definitfly know that the P85D does not deliver more than 420 kW (before inverter/motor losses) by now. And that a 1.500 A is needed over the 1.300 A fuse to deliver more power. And that current in...

Sorka... You know the 400 V is at the DC level. That drops to 340-350 V when max AMP is pulled (20 A x 0,40 Ohm per cell x 74) as well as the battery disharges (SoC og say 25%). I would like to suggest that the DC to 3 phase AC inverter always feed the motor with 320 VAC. So wheter the...

Love that one...

For some reason I cant help saying that I love the term motor power that Tesla has introduced. That rules out that it is wheel power and also that it is battery power. It is just od that the battery kan only deliver 410-415 kW on a P85D.... so how comes that the motor power is defined as 515 kW...

Bingo. I guess there is very little I can ad to the thread at this point of time that the carefull readers has not already read. I guess my conclusion this far is that some support our claims and some dont. I love all the points of view that has been put forward by everyone in this forum. It...

Thx my freind and a belated happy birthday yesterday.... if Ken, Henrik and I had known we would had sang you a birthday song yesterday in our skype session (maybe in Danish) :biggrin: It is funny you say it. My P85D finished production 10th of April. I feel every stone and "un-evenness" in the...

Help me here, I am completely lost here... what is better 24, 28, 22 What is sway bar... Any pictures or drawings... And Sorka why you wanna swap with someone to after April if you like harder suspension.... ? Torben_E

So Tesla Motors US web-side now 10-11 month after the launch declairs that the P85D is with "1-foot rollout" May I remind everyone about the P85D October launch..... McLaren F1 was the benchmark. 0-60 mph in 3.2 s. It has later been improved with OTA to 3.1 s. Thanks for that free and...

Hi there... We Danes has already been debating this strange statement with "Base Options". Hookmaker is suggesting it mean with "NO OPTIONS". In other words no sunroof, no leatherseat, no rear seat, not even a coke in the cup holder. But as Werpedone says... Here we go again.... T.

Hi Niclas... do you mean satisfied like "Now we close the case ?" There is not a single answer so let me elaborate. I am very happy that Tesla has stopped the bleeding meaning they are not misleading the US customers (so they reduce their liability). Maybe they never mislead the US customers...

Yes, nice to see that it is not only 60+ P85D owners (mainly from Europe) that cant get the car to do the advertised 0-100 km/h in 3,3 s (0-60mph in 3,1 s) but that also the hightly respected CR cant. Our best times are 3,7 - 3,8 s with is close to the 3,5 s for the 0-60 mph. If anyone...

post #103 from Darthy001 @Darthy001... just a comment to the Danes got a respons .. to avoid any misunderstanding. We the 14 Danes with 15 P85D´s (one has also bought one P85D for his wife) have not received the response that we were looking for namely a reply back from Tesla on our letters...

1+ Torben_E

Sorka... you have won many follower on TMC including me. And that started even before the 15 Vikings in a country far far away brought up the issue with 1-foot rollout. Maybe we should just had stuck to our Viking ships and kept cruising to and from England. I remember back in those day we use...

Fair question. I was from day number one being called a bit naive by some of the other members of our 15 man group, naive that I would expect a reply from Tesla Motors after so many mails had ended blind. I however thought it would be the right thing to do and at least I wanted to give Tesla...

Hi Andyw2100, thanks for your refrence to "the Danes". Just to re-state what we have said all the time : 0-100 km/h is advertised with 3,3 s. Our best time is 3,8 s. Br Torben_E

The Guf..... this is a brilliant summary. I could not had said it any better. IMO we dont really have to discuss it anylonger... I just want an official response from Tesla Motors on our two letters with an answer what they are going to do about it and then enjoy my car (conditionally) untill...

1+ I love that analogy... thank you Dennis. Torben_E

Hej Dennis, ja vores sprog er meget ens så her er fra Audi også på dansk...... Se også her... hvis ikke jeg tager fejl står der "den elektrisk drevne Audi R8 e-tron superbil opnår en ydeevne på 340 kW og et drejningsmoment på 920 Nm, "! Sorry for those less strong in Scandinavian. It is the...

I do appreciate that the P85D is being being marketed differently in different regions/countries. When I in Denmark ordered the car 24th of Januar both each motor power and the combines Power was advertised. Together with the official launch of the P85D in october there was no reason for...

Dear Matias I have a firm believe that a sober dialog is the way for solving issues. We have since April 2015 been having noumerous exchanges of words face:face with Tesla in DK (in the service centers and sales offices) but very little action or responses has been to our satisfaction...

@Hookmaker.... obviously i agree with you (we met the other day and discussed it in length)... and i like to add : 1. I am perfectly happy that a car (European, Japanese, Korean or American) in the US market is promoted with performance numbers 0-60 mph. Because miles are used over there. I am...

Hi ... I know this one died out long ago but was there any conclusion to the suddent death. I guess the now "very famous 1.300 A" fuse must have melted ? And then what.. was it replaced and the SW changed to it would not happen again ? Torben_E

1-foot rollout... Do you all remember the debate a couple of pages earlier and people talking about the new industry norms and the original McLaren F1 (very very likely) also did 3.2s 0-60 mph with 1-foot roolout... Well I had never heard about 1 foot roll out before 3 weeks ago and I would...

Sorry i simply have to comment my own text.... Now I know why it is called a McLaren F1... F1 mean "one foot" (roll out)... lol. Torben_E

I have also been following the debate intense... being a P85D European owner myself and tested again and again with the VBox. 0-100 km/h. Originally promissed 3,4 s now advertised with 3,3 s. I get 4.1, 4.0, 4.1, 3.9, 4.0, 3.9 and a single time 3.8. Different SoC, different road, different...

Thx Sorka I just borroved the Racerlogic this Sunday so i am still figuring out how it works and thx for the tips. The unit has two labels. PerformanceBox and Racelogic. Guess it is a PBox then. Great to know your 0-60 mph times and that is with 6.2 SW rigth ? My build is .250 I will try the...

Dear Tesla fan I have been following this thread for a while and I more than agree that there is confusion about the 691 hk and that it should have an asterik. I have a question though and my apology in advance if this has been asked and answered before, but can any one of you confirm a lower...

I guess if you go from a 60 kWh to a 85 or 90 you have to change the inverter and motor as the voltage is 350 vs 400 on the dc part. Down the line I am convinced there will come an batt upgrade program. Cheers Torben_E