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But, isn't that exactly what WS and the analysts have been demanding, getting back to the 25% margins? IIRC, Elon himself stated at a recent earnings report that their goal was to get back to 25% margins.

That may be true, but let's not forget what happened in 2008, when tens of thousands of people started defaulting on their car loans. Will they get another bailout this time?

Same thing happened to my wife and I a few months ago. I reported the video to Youtube and they took it down.

Yes, for ONE QUARTER (4Q23) BYD managed to push out as many cars it could to its dealer lots to be able to claim it outsold Tesla. The media has beat this dead horse long enough, why am I having to hear it here?

Yeah, you gotta love that headline, more complaining about not enough nags. And then, of course, they save it until the very end of the article to admit the testing was done before the update 3 months ago that added more nags. SMH.

Just a datapoint: I took delivery of my Model Y LR in January 2022 (ordered 9/21) for $52,900. There were a lot of crazy price changes around that time.

I had someone say the same thing about my Nissan Leaf back in 2012, at a Nissan event in Miami. Worst insult ever. :mad:

I think your view is too US-centric, IMO.

I actually saw a Fisker tonight at the Treasure Coast Mall. It really shocked me seeing it, as I haven't seen one for years, and I thought they were already bankrupt! LOL! :confused:

That's not how I remember it. If I recall correctly, the partnership broke up because Tesla wanted access to the raw data from the Mobileye chipset, and Mobileye refused.

Yes, having 6 MPPTs would definitely help them avoid using Optimizers, like their older solar inverters. I love the idea! My Fronius has 2 MPPTs, but I can definitely see use cases for several more! :cool:

I saw that back when I was trying to watch a SpaceX launch a month ago, disguised as a countdown. I reported it to Youtube, and they removed it.

No, @terranx just needs to go pursue one of his other hobbies. As numerous people have tried to explain to him, he is preaching to the wrong group. This is a Tesla INVESTORS forum, not the "Tesla Day-Traders Forum". I think most of us HODLers would agree that Tesla is going to trade mostly flat...

People, please remember: “Arguing with ignorance is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good you are, the bird is going to knock the pieces over, crap on the board, and strut around like it’s victorious.” — Scott D. Weitzenhoffer

Wow, I consider it rather ironic, and truly sickening, that the same judge who decided that Elon's $55 Billion dollar payout was "outrageous and excessive" could now possibly hand over billions to the plaintiff's ambulance-chasing lawyers! What about the damage that payout does to Tesla...

Why? People might as well just buy a base Model 3 then. I don't think Tesla would go to all the trouble to create a completely new car, using completely new technology to manufacture and assemble it, just to have it come in a couple thousand dollars less than the Model 3. They could spend much...

Yes, and I have heard that CNBC is actively trying to locate them to come on and talk about TSLA.

I thought the same thing. After living 40 years in PA, I well remember how many times your car battery totally died with the first cold front. You come out in the morning, and click, click, click....dead. But, of course, no mention of this cold front's affect on ICE cars.

It appears that the 2024 models are using the new 310 mile range for the Model Y Long Range, and 2023's still say 330 miles.

I thought this was the way for the Powerwalls to control the inverter power output, in a master/slave arrangement? The higher the frequency, the higher the output demanded from the inverter, no? I had 4 power outages this morning, and the beeping of my UPS units was driving me crazy. I do need...

Does this work on inventory cars also? I have a friend that has been watching inventory LR Model Y for several weeks, but doesn't want to have to finance the extra $7500. (He gets a lousy 8.5% finance charge because he has Canadian citizenship and it has been hard for him to build a credit...

Exactly! The detail that the FUD media and analysts seem to keep missing is that (IIRC) Tesla predicted that they would AVERAGE 50% growth YoY, not grow 50% each and every year. That would put them at 2,529,463 cars for 2024. They have beat 50% AVERAGE YoY each year so far.

Yes, but I have a strong feeling the CT is here in Jupiter, FL. They were seen driving it to a party in Miami a few days ago. I keep watching for it when I'm in town.

Yes, ever since an update a few months ago my wife's 2022 Model Y seems to think it's opposite-day. The wipers don't come on when it starts to rain, and they wipe randomly on perfectly blue sky days. Weird. I know Elon likes to say that "the best part is no part", but if removing that part makes...

So, basically the same thing they did with Maxwell, buy the company, transfer the patents and IP for dry electrode to Tesla, and then sell the company back to the original owners for a bargain. This time they probably got some wireless charging IP and a few really sharp engineers in the deal...

I think the part that mongo objected to was actually MP3Mike's statement I quoted above. It sounds to me that a person's 2024 tax liability is no longer an issue, just their AGI and income cap. Is that right? That's the way I have been understanding it ever since the IRA was passed. So, if true...

I think you will like the white interior. It is very easy to keep clean, and I get compliments on it all the time.

It doesn't appear that GM is very anxious to keep supporting older EV's or hybrids from what I just heard. A guy in a Volt was right ahead of me, and we both were headed to Harbor Freight. He asked me how I liked my Model Y, and then told me how he is having so much trouble finding parts for his...

I seem to remember a Detroit show years ago that Tesla wasn't allowed/invited to, so they had cars out in the parking lot to display, and even that got them in some trouble, IIRC.

At least no one will have to worry about those flooded Teslas being resold to unsuspecting victims, like so many ICE cars after a flood. But, what I cannot understand is why anyone leaves an expensive car, like their Tesla, at home when they knew a CAT 3 was headed for them. It's just like last...

Maybe they are trucking them to California or Nevada for the handover event?

In this case, I don't think it is FUD. I just dropped off my wife's 2022 Model Y for service because it has lost power steering 5 or 6 times in the past 2-3 weeks. They pushed it off a week so they could get a steering rack in stock. I'll find out when I pick it up tomorrow if that proves to be...

Tesla has access to a lot more info that I/we do, and I'm sure that if they were seeing an "epic collapse of demand" they wouldn't be submitting plans to double their factories in both Shanghai and Germany. Yes, the economy is tough right now, and yes, interest rates are too high, but I'm seeing...

I truly feel bad for the guy that I bought my 2016.5 Model S 90D from. He bought a Lucid, because he said "he wanted to see what a 2nd generation EV was like". I think he heard those words from some guy with a British accent, and he fell for it. If only he had realized last year that a 2022...

They just keep moving the goalposts to keep their investors happy. In 2020 they claimed they would have a running prototype in 2021 and "limited production by 2025". Toyota has developed solid-state batteries that charge in less than 15 minutes - Autoblog

If we are talking about Interstate travel, since that is where there is the most Supercharger use, and you count the time from when you exit the Interstate, wait at the light at the end of the ramp, find an open pump, swipe your credit card, pump your gas, collect your receipt, get back down the...

I'm curious as to what your wh/mile is showing during this drive. Does the math agree?

I think Elon has already said that all SuperCharger sites are already buying "green" solar, wind, or hydro electricity. Sure, some/most of the electrons may be coming from other sources, but Tesla is doing everything they can to offset that. Hopefully that FUD will stop when Tesla finally gets...

Do they mean the prototype cybertruck for the reveal that Elon admitted that he and Franz threw together in what, like 2 weeks? Well, DUH! :rolleyes:

Same here. Since I downloaded 11.4 the other day the phantom braking has been driving me crazy! Much worse than before. :rolleyes:

Maybe they are thinking that daily charges from 60% to 80%, basically every time you pull into the garage at night, vs charging every 3 or 4 days from 10% to 100%. I don't know about 8X, but that would definitely make a big difference in battery health over time.

Yes, you are correct for 2022, Ford was #2 and GM was #3. But, it appears they are cherry picking 1Q 2023 data, when Ford shut down the F150 Lightning plant, and some other production holdups.

Early next year Ford is going to ship ALL EXISTING EV customers a Tesla adapter! It sounds free! Wow, that answers that question. 🤯

Progressive completely compensated me for what I had paid for EAP.

Based on what, only the 01Q23 report? You're as bad as GOJO at cherry picking data. Everyone knows the 1st quarter is always lower in the automotive industry.

I have to wonder how much of this is caused by EV manufacturers wanting to avoid a bunch of RFI interference on AM that would make it useless anyway. All those electronics and motors have to be putting out lots of harmonics, IMO.

I took it as "100% of cellphone batteries contain cobalt", which is undoubtedly true.

A 12.325 kW system from Tesla is only $27,362, BEFORE incentives! That's why it pays to get multiple quotes. Too many installers still quoting $60,000 systems.

Employee charging? That would be my guess. Level 2 would make more sense. Nice employment perk.

As far as I know, Tesla has never indicated that they have any intention of sourcing 4680's from Panasonic. IMO, that is something Panasonic just decided to do on their own. Also, I really doubt that they are using the dry electrode technology that Tesla is at this time. Maybe that is why they...