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    Powerwall 2 supply issues

    Finally got mine installed last week! I had to get the SGIP rebates renewed (pain), but made it under the wire. Working great so far. Only about 14 months late, I guess that's good for Tesla.
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    Powerwall 2 supply issues

    Congratulations on your install.
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    Powerwall 2 supply issues

    Hey, Myke Hines, Did the install happen this week? I was told by my installer (Swell Energy) that Tesla promised them they finally have a shipment actually on trucks and actually on the way. According to Tesla, they will get the units, and I will get me install in a week or less....however...
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    Powerwall 2 supply issues

    I know they have said that (solar installs), but we are talking YEARS here, not weeks or months. We are also talking years of LIES about availability. There have been many times that I have heard "yours is the next batch". How can this not be a lie when they have so many thousands of res holders...
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    Powerwall 2 supply issues

    Sorry guys, I just need to vent here for a minute, I put a lot of planning, time, energy and money getting ready for my Powerwall and now this AGAIN with Tesla. Waiting for more than a year for mine. Always "just about to ship yours". SGIP rebates about to expire. After waiting years for a...
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    Seals still difficult after a year?

    Yes IMHO it has been obvious since the "launch" that this is the case. That event was closer to a reveal than a launch. My guess is that they will deliver ~100 in the last week of December (which they will save up and release all at once) and say they met the goal. Then another month(s)...
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    Model X vs Volvo XC90

    Not really, with every option except premium sound, the XC90 comes in at around $80k, it's about 60% more than that for the X fully loaded. SRP$ 79,200 Destination Fee$ 995 Total MSRP (including destination fee)$ 80,195 REQUEST A QUOTE PAYMENT ESTIMATOR PRINT/PDF Twitter Facebook...
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    Thread Tracking Model X Configuration Ramp (Delivery Ramp to follow)

    Definitely management's fault and not the DS. I feel for anyone at the Tesla who has to deal with the public. Being an X res holder has given me the worst feeling as a (potential) customer ever. The car "launched" (what a joke) a month ago, and they make you feel like a jerk for asking basic...
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    Signature delivery now mid/late January

    If you are talking March 2017, it may happen. :wink: Even though these times seem longer than we hoped, I am starting to think they may actually be planning on shipping some MXs. Some days you start to question if it will ever happen.
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    Awards for Model X

    LOL...and probably "The Most Sculpted Seats" award.
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    Spare tire idea

    Does the X not come with a spare?
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    I'm starting to think the X still isn't ready...

    Nice to see some progress! I would be happily surprised to see Nov deliveries of Sigs. Although the "with a grain of salt" comment from Tesla could mean anything. When dealing with Tesla you could use this formula...[(how much longer could it possibly take if unforeseen circumstances occur) X 3]...
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    Will You Be Disappointed If Prod X Reservations don't start shipping for 6 Months?

    The only reason I expect that is because that's what they told me. I totally agree with you on the timetable and I think Tesla does also, but this is a non-public revision. The thing is most res holders (like me before I did some research after the "launch") are expecting their cars in "early...
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    Will You Be Disappointed If Prod X Reservations don't start shipping for 6 Months?

    I am not trying to be negative. Just not overly optimistic. If I am asked to configure before the end of the year, and don't end up getting the car until July 2016 or later, I will be very disappointed and feel misled (I am Prod #16,448). The main reason for the disappointment will be that I...
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    Model X floor models?

    So with Tesla time, that means June. In all seriousness, I doubt that will happen that soon. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence out there that suggests Tesla will struggle to get 100 Signature X's out the door this year. I imagine they will get all the signature models delivered before...
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    Will You Be Disappointed If Prod X Reservations don't start shipping for 6 Months?

    Sorry, post went up without poll. It's there now.
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    Will You Be Disappointed If Prod X Reservations don't start shipping for 6 Months?

    How much would this scenario bother you?
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    Model X is already 2.0

    LOL! True... You at the very least need to define what 1.0 is. Tesla has not even released the specs yet. Many aspects of the vehicle are still a complete mystery. There has been no launch yet IMO.
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    UPDATE: Towing 3500 lbs for 22" wheels and 5000 lbs for 20" wheels

    Exactly! This is TERRIBLE Tesla. I think the X is just not as ready/finalized as we hope. It almost seems like the "launch" or "reveal" or whatever was the unveiling of the concept car. I predict less than 3000 production Xs will ship by Q1 2016. IMO they are going to keep changing the config...
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    Tesla needs a stripped down economy version of the X ASAP

    Out of curiosity when do people think the launch has/will happen? Am I off base to think it has happened? I never meant to say the X is or is going to be a failure once other options are available. I am quite sure the X will be successful at some point in the future. I thought the "launch"...
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    Tesla needs a stripped down economy version of the X ASAP

    http://news.investors.com/technology/100615-774266-tesla-bull-trims-price-target-model-x.htm This analyst has been the biggest Tesla Bull for years and he agrees with the OP. This combined with the seats (which I am confident will cause cancellations) is not good news. No matter how much you...
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    Have to disagree on this one. X needs it's own catagory, definitely nothing with a "U" in it. CUVs and minivans all have configurable seating to allow for utility to a much greater degree that the current X. But who knows why Tesla will not let anyone know their plans for the vehicle. They seem...
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    Fair, I apologize for the snarkiness toward you. It was should have been directed at Tesla. At this moment, any length delay or change from them would not be unbelievable to me.
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    I appreciate that. The Bjorn Lomborg quote was lame, the other article was good however. Anyway if you read all of the posts and not just the snippits, I never said BEV were not clean the definitely are. I was just responding to holier-than-thou people who think they are "zero emissions" and...
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    Are you seriously saying a 6 month to year delay for the X is "out there"? With a straight face I mean. To be fair I don't mean for the Sigs, I mean for any meaningful production deliveries.
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    IMO it is quite obvious one of two things is going on here: 1 - The car is not really ready. They are rushing what they have now in to production to avoid at least another 6 month to a year delay. This will probably cause massive delays all the way down the line as they try to change things to...
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    Model X vs Volvo XC90

    I wanted to wait on the X. I too am trying to mull it over. At least with the T8 you can believe what the specs/capabilities of the car are. They published all the specs months ago. This is what is so frustrating. I REALLY REALLY want the X, but after YEARS of waiting, the...
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    How long did they tell you it would be for the T8? I was told they would be getting them in at my local dealer mid to late Nov, but I did not reserve one. I wanted to wait on the X. I too am trying to mull it over. At least with the T8 you can believe what the specs/capabilities of the car are...
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    Same here, the T8 is actually a very elegant solution. For my purposes, 90% + of driving could be fully electric (granted not nearly as fast or quite as efficient as a Tesla). The other 10% of the time since the T8 has a hybrid electric engine in the front, the 4 cylinder engine is very...
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    What? Insulting women much? Besides, you are wrong, all cars ICE and Tesla publish a spec list: Model S Specifications | Tesla Motors
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    Could be... Why oh why does Tesla not release specs? It seems from these forums, lots of long time posters with low reservation numbers are cancelling. If there is some light Tesla could shed, that would be great. The car has launched after all correct!?
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    From these images, it does not look like they fold forward too much, it just looks like it when they are in action because they start tilted backwards. You are correct! Tesla should post the dimensions and any other finalized specs! Also the hatch back slopes so there is less length at the...
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    Again nobody is asking for a mediocre pickup truck or some kind of hauling machine. Just the most basic utility that exists in nearly every car as a previous noted his Hyundai Elantra has. So you say you can fit those items in a Smart Car any I am using hyperbole. You are proving my point...
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    I guess every other SUV/CUV/Minivan/Compact Hatchback that can carry a floor lamp or shovel has that ability for the small minority who ever buy such exotic and huge things.
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    60" is nothing, and people are not upset at lack of cargo volume. Can you imagine having to call a friend with his Honda Civic hatchback to come help you bring home a floor lamp or a rake because it will not fit in your X? I guarantee most sales will be with the 6 seat version. With the 7...
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    Very Difficult decision..Canceling my Sig X reservation

    As an avid Tesla supporter, I am disappointed at all the responses to the lack of cargo capacity as "well it's not for hauling lumber". The current configuration is a MUCH BIGGER MISS than not being able to haul 24' lumber. With the second row all the way forward, you only have 60". This...
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    Reactions to Model X reveal event

    Wow! nobody really read any of my posts (just the snipits that were quoted). I agree with you! That WSJ article was junk and I wish I did not quote it, but all the thoughtful responses had good data and made my same point with slightly different numbers which I will concede. Everyone has been...
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    Reactions to Model X reveal event

    Valid points about production of oil. But the production and mining of the rare earth elements (for the batteries) is very destructive and energy intensive also. Please don't take my points the wrong way, EVs are definitely a large part of the solution to our carbon/energy problems, and Tesla...
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    Reactions to Model X reveal event

    Well said! Great reasons to buy a Tesla! You don't blindly think you are not putting any carbon in the air. The key here is the S is an amazing car. Wanting the X to have a feature that pretty much all other cars/suv/cuv have is not sacrilege and I am sure Tesla will remedy it; but not if...
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    Reactions to Model X reveal event

    You can read below for yourself. I suggest being realistic about your dogma and having some facts and avoiding positive feedback loops. However you miss my point, read my whole post: 99% positive on Tesla and the Model X and electric cars in general. There is a reason even compact cars have...
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    Reactions to Model X reveal event

    Wow, you are just in love with yourself. I think all electric cars are probably the best way to go for the environment in most cases right now, and the Model S is an unbelievably great car. It never ceases to amaze me though the amount of people that don't realize electric is only zero emission...
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    My biggest surprise? They didn't show the seats folded for max cargo

    How stupid would you feel if you had to call your friend with a Honda Fit to help you bring home a 7' curtain rod?
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    My biggest surprise? They didn't show the seats folded for max cargo

    You are missing the point, people are not requesting a "hauler" just as much room as a many compact hatchback cars have. All they want is to fit a couple bikes or a dining room chair. There is a reason nearly every car, including the S has this capability. With the trunk pass through my Mercedes...
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    My biggest surprise? They didn't show the seats folded for max cargo

    I agree 100%!! People are not complaining that they can't haul huge loads of lumber. With a third passenger you will only have about 50"! That is not enough to bring a dining room chair home. Not as much as most compact hatchbacks with one rear seat folded down. The six seat option will likely...
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    New renderings of storage space and 2nd row seats! (9/15)

    We are not talking about a heavy hauling business. Go measure your dining room chair. Mine is 53". Your Sequoia could probably carry that without folding any seats down. I think as people start to realize how small a 50" (and that is the longest when laying on the floor) the 6 seat option will...
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    Can you use the 2nd row seats if the 3rd row is folded down?

    Thanks, I did learn that on another thread. Unfortunately I also learned that with the second row not forward, there is only 50" of space. I measured one of my dining room chairs, and it is 52" high. I REALLY want this car and this is disappointing. Too small for my dog even. This will not work...
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    My biggest surprise? They didn't show the seats folded for max cargo

    According to measurements on another thread, with the 2nd row slid back there is only 50". So you only get the meager 60" when the second row is all the way forward (car is in 2 person mode)! 50" is not enough to fit a single high backed chair! Very lame for any "utility" vehicle. I can't...
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    New renderings of storage space and 2nd row seats! (9/15)

    I have to disagree with >95% of use cases. According to the measurements, with the 2nd row slid back there is only 50". So you only get the meager 60" when the car is in 2 person mode! 50" is not enough to fit a single high backed chair! VERY lame for any "utility" vehicle. Such a long way to...
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    Can you use the 2nd row seats if the 3rd row is folded down?

    It is very strange that they seemed to avoid letting anyone fold down the 3rd row. I am starting to wonder if to fold the 3rd row seats down, the 2nd row needs to be pushed all the way forward. This would mean to haul any significant cargo, the car becomes a 2 seater. Does anyone have any pics...