Bought a P85+ (2013 w/5k) last week. Last few perf cars I've had: M Roadster, 335i, X5M, X6-M Perf Pkg, and now the P85. I can say without hesitation, the acceleration / fun-to-drive factor of the P85 completely destroys all these previous cars. The MS is amazing. The P85+ is 'on par' with...