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We all know the real reasons this on the table to be axed; (1) Legacy auto lobby (oil, manufacturers, dealers etc) (2) They probably ran numbers that show that the overwhelming majority of users of this tax rebate are in "blue" states or "blue" districts. No different than the removal of the...

please edumacate me

Ditto

I don't know...i'm estimating. If it comes included with PUP, then great. I don't think so based on MS and MX, so i'm estimating 1k.

Base - 35000 LR - 9000 Premium - 5000 Paint - 1000 White Seats 1000 (estimate??) = 51K Aftermarket - 5k (wheels, tint, dashcam, HUD, external carbon fiber treatments, red brake caliper)

I'm not doing AP either. I like to drive.

Trolling by a moderator.... hahahahaha

Without a doubt, metallic gray turbines are the best wheels. Period. So if you will have 18" or 19" turbine for the M3, I'm sold. Now pricing might be a peculiar proposition. It appears as though current pricing for the turbines for the S (~$1900 for 19" and $2200 for 20") is meant to undercut...

krla.... That's pretty slick.

Here's my 2c, from the safety side. I've done safety across for a ton manufacturing companies for the past 15 years. I used to do it via consulting first, helping out smaller firms (low fortune 500 to not even listed ) then got into large corporations and over the past 10 years, been...

Oh my. It's not meant to be apples to apples since it's not apples to apples. It's meant to be "in that market segment". That means, if someone is buying an A4 or BMW3, they will or should give M3 a look since it's in the same price range; base or well optioned.

That's not the target market. The target is the entry level BMW & Audi. It's been expressed that way quite clearly, down to the dimensions and size of the vehicle. If you are choosing to hang your hat on interpreting "mass market", then that's on you.

So you value design, but don't want to pay for it or think a good design aesthetic should be free..... Got it

Please cancel your reservation.....better for the rest of us

I'm not amazed. It's human behavior in the 21st "internet" century. People just complain, no matter what. If the car is 5K, people would complain why it's not 4K.

You have other choices.... (1) Don't buy a model 3 and buy a car from a company that is doing 100% what you want (2) Go manufacture your own car to your exact specifications

Ok thanks...will check around. Used alliant probably 5+ years ago when I used to live in chicago, but rates weren't as low as today/ 1.99% and 84 months is free money. Congrats on that deal.

whaaaat!! Who and when did you lock that down? I'm over 800 on all fico scores so I should qualify for best rates but haven't seen that advertised anywhere..

For the CPO buyers out there, what's been the loan rates and terms you've been getting? Pretty sure I'm locking down a CPO tomorrow, but want to start investigating rates and such.

Can't believe this thread is still open. Lol.

I'm not saying "should"... I'm saying, that's the reality when you look at prices, particularly Tesla's own CPOs.

in terms of real market prices, easily in the 15K range

It's really crazy that prices on CPOs have APPRECIATED. In the Dec-Jan time frame, there were CPO P85s and + with less than 20K miles, fully loaded for 70-75. Now, those same cars, not fully loaded and having 35K+ miles are only 5K cheaper AT BEST. Crazy stuff

That's a ridiculous price. 91K for 50K miles....and 50K miles in 1 year? and that car is not on ev-cpo as of right this second....interesting.

A CPO advisor, Tyler, literally told me that high mileage is all they'll be releasing for sale as CPOs. That, mixed in with low optioned cars, non-pano cars, and cars with damage history. Pretty crazy, especially compared to CPOs just 5-6 months ago. Either demand is super high or this is a...

hey buckeye... Sorry for bringing this thread back up. But i'm looking to buy a used private as well. Couple questions: (1) Who did the full inspection for you and how much did it cost? (2) Who at Tesla did you contact to confirm no issues with the car? Thanks..

Awesome news!

Sorry bro. That sucks big time.

wow...interesting.

M3 looks good and I got my reservation in early, but still prefer an S and crossing fingers hoping the CPO program kicks back in and replenishes the stock.

I have an RN # but no email. RN107XXXXXX Reserved in fashion store AZ; #20 in line and reserved at 10:10am PST

holy sh!t

300+ in fashion store AZ. Inside the mall, wrapped around multiple stores etc

200 in fashion store AZ now..really insane for a sight-unseen product. I imagine ever other car manufacturer right now is like WTF?....

About 100 in fashion store AZ. The dude who came here first (non tesla employee) is handing out tickets because you can't line up til 9am.

Saw one today on Pima Rd near 101. It was sort of a bronze-ish color.

I do find these threads mildly amusing. What does "so many" mean? 100 salvaged cars out of the 50K sold in the US (0.2%)? 500 salvaged cars out of the 50K sold in the US (1%) Maybe it's 1000s out of the 100K sold globally? (<0.1%) Where do you think the number is? I personally haven't seen or...

To me it's hilarious because it's a single door across both driver and passenger (front and back).

Surprised this didn't get posted yet......Funny stuff and terribly obvious Lincoln's huge Navigator Concept has falcon-wing doors like the Tesla Model X

I would do P85+ for 3 years. By that time, Autopilot 2 will probably be out and ready and you'd get a very much improved and "ready" AP.

No. You miss the point entirely. YOU are making an assumption into the meaning of "mass market" or "EV for the masses" to mean 25K. If the goal was to target 25K buyers, the car wouldn't be aimed at a BMW 3 SERIES. Why is the car aimed at BMW 3 series and not a toyota camry? Where are all...

just wow..... Tesla doesn't owe you an "affordable" EV.

Lmao.... This is a luxury item. Not an essential item. You aren't ENTITLED to get one. Tesla doesn't HAVE TO make a vehicle at a price point low enough for you to enjoy. And I am a millennial. Now I see why people complain about the entitlement attitude today. This is crazy. People crying...

One more feature request, but more so for the "history" site. The ability to multi-select options in the dropdown. So for example, if I want to see what similar cars were listed for in the history site, it's very hard to do because I can't multi-select, for example, year, interior type, wheel...

holy sh!t... your CPO 55593 is an ABSOLUTE STEAL. Wow. Congrats.

I'm not attacking any messenger. You brought up their data, yet you have no access to the data they use. You just assume their data is good because it's a respected organization (whatever that means). I see you also conveniently left out the part in their own description that says they include...

Where is the real data AAA used? Lmao. I'll wait for you to provide the data.... In addition, you have no idea what their metric "maintenance" means. (1) Is it only annual manufacturer's recommended service? (which is what we're discussing here from Tesla). (2) Does it include total...

Ok buddy. If you're paying $400/yr on a 14K car, you're being fleeced. End of story.

Service seems to be a huge ripoff tbh.

Hank... Maybe this is a feature that others requested before or maybe isn't very useful, but i just thought about it. Is there a way, to receive an email alert when one of your matches is removed from the site? So for example, i have an alert setup currently that had 4 cars matched. This...