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Totally different suspension than a regular 7 series. I drive on comfort+ all the time. Last 7 I had was an 07 so I am sure it's different now. I have not driven a 13+ normal 7 series to compare. However, what I can tell you is that the Alpina drives significantly smoother than the Tesla in...

I think it being an Alpina takes away the old man feeling that you refer to which I totally understand. I do love the Alpina, and it would rank first in my list as to vehicles I have owned. However, it is listed on Ebay right now. I am always looking for change. Hard to not like these top end...

I agree. I definitely would not even consider one in Germany. Cannot imagine driving with no speed limit. Has to be crazy. Highway speed is so much more important there.

That could not be further than the truth for me. I prefer a soft ride, and extreme comfort which the reason I have had them all. If I drive it, and it has a ride similar to a 50k car, I expect to pay that price. I would sacrifice the speed of the Tesla for it to be more comfortable to drive...

I have an MSR intake and a tune with got me to 700HP. I have watched several races online, and even when the Tesla wins (which it does not on all of them) the other vehicles are rapidly closing. Just for peace of mind, I would love to be at highway speeds cruising, and then race one just to...

I floored it several times. Again, it Was a 90 d which cannot beat either of my cars. And with my tuned m6, I'd love to meet up with a Tesla in a straight run, corners, highway or whatever. I get the instant torque, but let's not get carried away. It's a high torque electric car that is...

I think you said it perfectly. I agree that most fans likely have not owned one, and driven enough in a 7 Series or S-Class to have a clear understanding of the difference. It is far beyond looks. I have zero attachment to any brand. I had a 7 series, sold it and got an S-Class, sold it and...

I agree to an extent. You pay more to sit in first class on a plane to be comfortable. In this case, I feel like I am paying for it, but not getting it. I do get where simple can be better, but I just expect to pay for simple.

I agree 100% with the fact that they will improve. Of course some of us buy cars, and will make it sound like the best things ever due to us having it at that time. Then we move on to something else that is the best thing ever again. Once Tesla improves in comfort, I will definitely be in...

Makes sense. I have been reading since you posted this and I see it. I just was not really looking at a p90D. Just way too much money for just speed really. I know it is a decent car all around, and I truly wanted to be blown away by it. I just could not get past the mid level interior, and...

I understand some people are more extreme than others on this topic, and I will not head in that direction here. If you feel that your car purchase helped save our children, I commend you on that. When I see electric cars are 2-1 vs gas, I would expect a difference with maybe our children's...

2011 B7 has 40 less HP thank my 2013. Although I am sure that's not a huge a difference. 50-70 is a highway entrance speed and not relative to me. However I would love to compare on the highway from 70+. Given that the Alpina has nearly a 40MPH top speed advantage, I was thinking it wouldn't...

I agree in the quarter it will win by almost a half second (2013 BMW Alpina B7 xDrive Long-Wheelbase 0-60 mph 3.8 | Quarter mile 12.0 from zeroto60times.com). From 50+, I don't think that would be the case. I have watched tons of races. And every one...

I get it with the Alpina steering, but I don't think most people are getting one of those to road race. I like the soft steering that it has. My whole think is basic essentials inside. Its a family sedan with not cupholders for the kids, not center console or sunglasses. This would be find...

I chose that car because that is the same price range as the Model S. A 3 series would not be apples to apples since my main gripe is the class of vehicle according to price. I am sure Tesla has heard this a ton, and will make the cabins a bit more luxurious soon. As I said before, If i had a...

As consumers, we can buy a motor and batteries for a Tesla for under 20k. I'd bet its double to get A BMW 7 series engine with twin turbos, and whatever else is a must have to run a gas engine. I am just talking drive train. Has to be more than double.

I am let down the most for real. I think reading and reading had my expectations too high. The not having interior storage, and simpleness of the interior was tough for me. I know its a different car, but if you are going to get the same type of money, I expect the same level of quality. I...

ok, I just got back. Very tough decision. Right now leaning towards keeping the Alpina. Not driving a ton, the gas savings will not be a huge deal for me. If it were an even up trade, I may consider it just to have one, but considering that this would cost me about 20k on top of my Alpina, I...

I think he thought the p85+ was the best ever, and then the p85D came out, and then he had to get that as it was even better.

Those are two great cars also. Although I think totally different than what I would be giving up. I do see a lot of people giving up really nice cars for their Tesla though. But seeing that boonedocks would not trade his 7 for a Tesla also has me thinking. I think I know hands down what the...

Great info. Especially since a P85D is what I would be getting. You having the v12 made the comparison a little closer. Although you had the previous generation, I am not sure that much has changed. Going to be interesting. Right now I have a RAM Limited, an M6 vert, and the Alpina (JCW...

I am hearing that a lot about the quality of material, and layout. I know the stereo in my BMW (B&O) is also going to be far superior. As for exclusiveness, the B7 probably wins that battle also. However, one big gripe I have with the current 7 series line is that some designers must have...

The big question is, would you trade in your BMW for a Tesla? Mine is a 2013 Alpina long body X-Drive. I am not sure you can go any higher than that. So once I drive the Tesla, it will need to really wow me for me to make that decision. I will not be upset if I do not like the Tesla, but if...

I like the sounds of that. Gonna be a long few days.....Then it will be decision time. I like that here in the Northeast, the Tesla is still pretty exclusive. Kind of got used to that with the Alpina as I have not seen another one in over a year.

The thing I am not hearing when reading everywhere I can is about the ride itself with Air Suspension. I really like a floaty ride. I love my Alpina, but I preferred the S550 soft ride more. Of course the Alpina outperforms and out-handles the S class, but the ride was definitely less sport...

Pretty excited about Tesla bringing me a vehicle to test drive this coming Thursday. I have had over 50+ vehicles at age 42 and cannot wait to compare. I know even if I like it, I will have a huge decision as I would need to get rid of my 13 Alpina B7 to get the Tesla. I am actually thinking...