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Wow, thought I was going crazy when I noticed this but it’s true. This new layout is awful. Living in LA there are so many chargers it was very useful to see ones across town that were open. Now it’s a terrible interface! Wish it could be back to the way it was before…

Picked up yesterday, have the gap in passenger door. Don’t really care as it’s a lease though. Didn’t notice any other spots where the gaps were off, overall the car looks very good.

I got the same messages but without the free supercharging noted. Is this something you have to specifically ask for? I thought it was all deliveries from 12/22-12/31. Everyone mentions confirming with SA but I ordered online I’ve never interacted with a person. Who would I even contact ??

white/black/aero. The cheapest possible, haha. Ordered 11/25 edit: also today they texted saying it was early and asking if I’d be able to pickup today but I can’t so I kept 12/27...

Well. What I experienced was very fast. My 12/22-12/31 estimate disappeared completely. Then a day later it came back 12/22-12/28. Then that same day or the following day I got a VIN. Then a day later I got a delivery date.

So today they scheduled me for pickup the 27th. Will not even let me go a day later they said that’s the latest. I’ll make it work but yeah. It is fast it went from no range back to a range to having an appointment all in a 2 day span.

Oh snap! I got a VIN and the delivery date says Dec 22-25... and I can’t really pick up until Monday the 28th. Go figure... hopefully it’s toward the end of the window and I can get an extra couple days. 11/25 order white/black/aero in Los Angeles

Haha, same...mine seems to be *tomorrow*-December 31.

This is crazy. There was one in San Diego before, but now there are 2 more in LA. They are the same as mine but with 19" wheels, which I don't really care to pay for, though strangely enough the prices listed on those are $39,490 while my Aero configuration is $39,290. For an extra $200 sure...

Very interesting. Same configuration here in Los Angeles ordered 11/25, and overnight my estimate disappeared and now there’s no delivery estimate window... I wonder if they got tired of me refreshing every day though I like to think it’s because I might have a VIN and date soon

Looks like some things are moving along. It’s nice some of y’all got VINs and dates. Overnight to this morning mine had gone from “4-6 weeks from order” to Dec 21-31. Sometime today it has updated to Dec 18-28...which is...odd considering today is the 18th! Either way a bit more hopeful for...

JUNE?! Did you refuse delivery before or somehow coordinate to wait? Either way I get that they’re busy and trying but the estimate system is a bit weird if it’s showing you a window starting Dec 18...TODAY with no VIN...

When signing into your account and clicking your reservation it should have a delivery estimate. Under “next steps” tab and after insurance. Mine just updated to 12/21-12/31 (used to be 12/23-12/31 then had changed to “4-6 weeks). Ordered 11/25 white/black/aero in Los Angeles ... seeing that...

Same here also in Los Angeles...but ordered 11/25.

I thought the “end of quarter” thing was if you wait to order until next quarter and you live in CA ... but I’m not sure. I sure would hope that an 11/25 order that’s not cancelled or delayed by buyer and was quoted as 4-6 weeks wouldn’t take until March but ... who knows.

Now that it changed from dec 23-31 to 4-6 weeks from order I wouldn’t mind if I get pushed to early or mid January ... would actually be better for me. But if that pushes to next quarter and I end up at END of quarter because I’m in CA due to their shenanigans of making CA last in order to...

Same here, ordered 11/25 White/Black/Aero initially said Dec 23-31 now says "4-6 weeks from order placed date" ...

Interesting. Ordered same configuration on 11/25, always had delivery estimate of Dec. 23-31, but I'm in CA so I guess not part of your batch as I have no VIN. I guess it's not surprising if as they say priority goes to faraway places to book the sale and they have more time left to build and...

This. The people implying OP was “blocking the lane” must not know LA. Going 45mph with a car in front slowing him down ... I’m very familiar with this freeway and that’s just pretty much 405 traffic. There is NO “passing lane” to block. They’re all blocked. I often drive on the 405 carpool...

Hmm...my main reason for going with the 3 is to do a 30m commute in LA traffic. Mostly in the left carpool lane with concrete barrier a few feet away. Is this really not a good idea based on people’s experience with AP in the 3? This would change things considerably. I mean I suppose a lot...

It’s still a strange cutoff schedule. If the intent is to encourage the EV purchase or lease, they shouldn’t have the stickers expiring before leases are up. My example: 36 month lease started 5/2016. I won’t get 1/2019-5/2019 or usage. I get 2 years 7 months of sticker validity. Not the end...

Hah. We got trolled. I’m a non owner in CA but I reserved at 3AM local time before everyone in line in CA because I was in Europe. My estimate says Feb-Apr after the last delay. I expect to be invited fairly early on in the non-owner queue unless SoCal delivery centers are overloaded and they...

Non-owner, CA resident. Reserved before stores opened (I was traveling so my reservation went in at 3AM on March 31). Original estimate for first production was Oct-Dec. It got moved to Nov-Jan. Midway through Jan. I’d have to guess that window isn’t gonna be met...I’m not quite ready anyway...

Mine went from (LR:eek:ct-dec 17) (SR:jan-feb 18) to (LR:nov 17-jan 18) (SR:'early 18') Haha, same here. I had LR window Oct-Dec, SR Jan-Feb...I'm going for SR, was expecting it MAYBE next summer. So for me it's just going closer to my expectation. I suspect it'll be a truth trickle of delay...

My estimates moved from (oct-dec 2017)(jan-mar 2018) for the LR and SR...to (nov 2017-jan 2018)(early 2018). Non-owner, CA, very early reservation. It's interesting they don't even give a month range for the SR. Just "Early 2018"...I doubt if I were going for LR I'd even see it before Spring...

I can't say I'm surprised, I basically planned for it being delayed. Is anyone surprised? You'd think that when saying deliveries to begin in October, the order invites would have gone out in September. October went by, with no invites...I'm surprised there was no thread started before about why...

I know they can track that it's sold, but can they track how much it's sold FOR...that is the question. Since apparently the language is based on selling above MSRP or not. It's not a matter of them finding that it's sold. How will they know if it sold above MSRP or not?

I know, but in CA the DMV doesn't let you get away with low numbers like that. Last I heard they will just up the value to blue book anyway when calculating the tax. Plus would Tesla even have access to a DMV bill of sale? You could sell it for MSRP and then charge a $5k 'consulting fee' ...or...

How will they even track that? They could just fill out the bill of sale at MSRP and then get cash on the side... not like Tesla will have access to their bank accounts to see anyway...

Wait...stupid question but...you can't get Sirius/XM in a Tesla??

Still waiting for my M3 but have put 19k miles on a Fiat 500e in 15 months so I have a lot of experience on the highway in an EV. The 500e is rated 86 miles ... I think at about 65-68mph it will achieve just that. Winter lowered it though, by about 15% on the colder days I'd say. Since my...

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They SHOULD stop issuing green ones and let them expire in 2019; extend white ones to keep BEV incentives; possibly even increase to 3 people in areas with saturation. Why on earth they decided to start re-issuing green ones a year ago, I have no clue. There are far too many PHEVs out there...

I think the answers in the poll showing October are: 1) Some owners who missed the NON-owner part of the question (I know at least two have posted, maybe they answered the poll) 2) Non-owners in CA who reserved before CA stores opened because they were traveling. Like @EricUSC (9AM PST) and...

Thanks for the input...that's definitely what I was afraid of! It only dawned on me recently and I should have thought of that before, I admit. Yes, that lane is where most of my travels take place. Here in LA it is truly uncomfortably close a lot of the time. Today I paid more attention and...

Thanks..Hmm...Yeah I would not use something like AP in a construction zone. But much of my driving in LA HOV lanes leaves less than like 2 feet on the left. But whenever you pass a sign you'll often have it diminished to about a foot or less in sections like this: I always assumed with a...

It seems to say BOTH complete validation and a roll out would happen in Dec. 2016. I think taking 'be rolled out' in context here together with the validation completion certainly implies that, you'd at least have a working AP in December... I must say I was not aware of the fact that AP2 was...

Actually I double checked and it was 1AM so 9 hours not 7 (I forgot which way DST moved). My e-mail confirmation for the rez came at 1:18AM California time. It was by coincidence I was out there and happened to be near a store that I could get to easily...so I went and did it. Unfortunately I...

I have Oct-Dec 2017. Non-owner, in SoCal, reserved at 3AM on the 31st because I was in Europe 7 hours ahead of CA when I went to the local store at 10AM.

Here's another data point. I am in CA however my reservation went in before all the line waiters here as I did it in store 10AM in Europe during a trip (which was like 3AM here in CA).

I'm curious to see how the communication starts to happen for early orders. I am in California but I reserved during a trip while I was in Europe and did it in store on the 31st at about 10AM local time which was 3AM in California...technically getting in there before all the people in line that...

Wow, this thread blew up...so aside from graphs, the trends seems to be: 1. Those of us ordering in Europe all ended up at 36XXXX? Right? Are there any data points from Australia or elsewhere that got in earlier than 3/31 Morning EU time? 2. Those ordering 2 cars do end up around...

I saw that post from earlier in the thread. I ordered in Italy (local time 10AM on 3/31 so about 8 hours ahead of the US orders) and I live in California... And mine also starts with 36xxxx...

I'm a Californian and reserved in Italy at local time as I'm on a trip this week, so I got mine in 9 hours before the California stores opened... Hoping that combination helps. Ended up with RN1077 so it doesn't seem to correlate with much...

Reserved in Italy, but I live and will take delivery in California. Reserved at 10:20AM local time (1:20AM California time-sorry, guys in line back home!)...had email for creating a password within minutes and a confirmation minutes after that. Number starts with RN1077.

Placed order at about 10:20 AM, email came through a few minutes later for creating a password on the tesla site. I created it, then got an email with a confirmation. Not sure if creating it spurred the confirmation, I think not and the confirmation would have come anyway. But then I was able to...

No pictures or anything. They used a tablet to access the reservation site and put in my details and credit card info. Hit submit, it just said confirmed. I got the email a few minutes later with a link to create password, created my password, and now it shows my reservation number when I log...

I was able to reserve for USA Delivery (California resident) at the local store in Milan. The rep had to check with someone else when we went to change delivery country to USA but they allowed it.

Wow, I didn't think there would actually be lines the night before. I live in Los Angeles and was going to go to a store, turns out I took a last minute trip for business to Milan. Was able to pop into the store and reserve in local time, 9 hours ahead of my fellow west coast residents. Store...

Thanks...do you know if a US resident could possibly reserve in store in Europe? I live in CA but I am on a trip in Milan and I want to reserve ASAP rather than wait for online orders. But, it will take me about 45 minutes to get to the store by train. I will probably just go and see what...