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340wh/mi 2021 Plaid, 20's in winter, 21's in summer 45k miles

2 main reasons. I can't deal with the lack of stalks and the reduced range. The Plaid is my 3rd S, got each right when they refreshed. 2016.5, then Raven, now Plaid. I also have owned as 2nd vehicles, Y & 3. I've taken a road trip to FL 8 times, every year since 2016. Here's what I came up...

My plaid has never made it 300 miles. Range is worse or equal to my old 16 p100d

I'd want more detail on that. I've never even hit 300 miles with my plaid.

Right now trying to drive normal I'm getting 310 watts/m Very disappointing. It has ranged from 310-400+ since I got it 500 miles ago

Range is awful on the plaid. My 3rd S. 100DL, 100DL Raven, Plaid 19". Raven was a noticeable improvement from my first. Plaid is not good. I got it with 19's and then switched to 20's with EV tires that got me good range on the Raven. Right now trying to drive normal I'm getting 310 watts/m and...

My guess is that the 'refresh' is pretty minor. Lots of small changes. I think the intention is to prepare for the Plaid which will use new cells and a 3 motor design. They prob needed more fender room for hub motors so they put the fenders out a little. USB C if they haven't possibly dual pane...

My suspicion is that this is all due to thermal management of the battery with the new heat pump. You could use the heat pump to thermally manage the battery keeping resistance low and thus increasing range. It would explain why the Y had more range than the 3 initially, why the 3 increased...

The Ohmmu battery is a good buy unless you bought an old used Tesla and can't afford one. It lasts longer, you have peace of mind, farther range, more reliability, better handling/braking, etc. These differences are small but people are emotional not logical. It would seem you pay over $1000...

Drove my 2016 S for 3 years, no issues. Got a 2020 S in Chicago, on way home got a chip (3 hr dr). Went back to fix it, nightmare service experience.... On way home new one chipped. Same drive home.

I understand the decision and there are many compromises to owning a Tesla. Service being my main complaint of late. Maybe followed by interior noise. The only thing I would say is that the Tesla you upgraded from was an old one. I agree about the many luxuries you upgraded going to the LS500...

Absolutely. We're talking about speculations and in that game, all we can do is go on the data we have. It's foolish to speculate something is bad or good in a court of ignorant opinions. When you google, Amazon, forum search the Tesla 12v battery you'll find 2 things. 1. There are zero...

I am the guy referenced in that (sue Tesla) thread. I am still using the same Li Ion battery. Tesla gave me a hard time resealing my window because I had that battery in there. Hardly a bash on the battery, more on Tesla. The 12v battery does not have the same charge/discharge loads as the main...

But the point is YOU stated 'several' reported issues. Surely if you said that, you can back it up with ONE? There are countless posts of people with problems with their OEM lead acid battery and they are only made to last ~5 years so that's the benchmark. So where are the issues you're...

Can you give a link to the 'several reported issues'? I'd have to see it to believe it. I find humor in your statement "Lithium ion batteries do not do well in an automotive environment" You do know we own Tesla's right? The car is LITERALLY a giant Li Ion bat. LOL

I've run about a dozen tires. My preference is the Pirelli P7. It's the quietest tire I've ever tested. That's my main reason for choice. Grip is good, all season performance is good, price is reasonable, wear rating is high. I'm not sure there is anything better unless pure performance on 21's...

Test done at 55 deg. That's right where the model S drops significantly. If it were done at 65, they prob get ~20% better range.

The S/X is not slated for 2170 cells and Elon said there isn't much point in doing so with chemistry now the same. As slight improvements are made to the batteries the vehicles can be 101KW with same cells count/pack. Then 101.5KW and so on. That's the route he seems to be going and just doing...

Car is back, driving fine. No issues with 12v system. There never have been EVER. Not in my last car, not in this car. Manufacture has over 1000 of these in Model S's with no issues. Fuse on 12v battery is original. The tech didn't blow anything, the system was fine. He removed the ground wire...

Chicago - Elston | Service Center 3067 N Elston Ave | Chicago, IL 60618 I don't have the tech's name, they never emailed me the invoice. My app doesn't allow me to pull it up. My online account only shows my invoice for FSD purchase. I replied to the text and it says my case is closed. It's...

I"m not sure why we're talking so much about the windshield. I agreed to pay for it. I didn't fight about that. It's easily plausible that it got a stone chip or something external caused it to crack. The issue was the roof glass. I originally thought it was the windshield but I brought it in...

Any further issues I'll handle on my own with local shops. I'm not going back to Chicago. Comments on the battery are just a train wreck. There's nothing complicated about the 12v electrical system. Nothing special, nothing Tesla only, no high tech computer. Just because the brand Tesla is on it...

Spoke too soon. Doesn't look like the windshield is sealed. FML

CONCLUSION!!! I had an employee of mine drive me to Tesla today with notice that the vehicle was completed last night. Show up, it's outside, I go in. 2 reps, guy takes over from girl I spoke to. Guy is super nice, listens to everything I eventually say and doesn't really have anything to say...

Text received 8:01pm Hello! Vehicle plans to be completed some time tomorrow. We plan to update you then and provide you with a break down. Thank you! --------------------- Better than nothing but this is the 4th completion come and gone without the car being ready. Tomorrow will be #5...

I was told they would phone me at 9am which would be 10am my time. They never called or emailed or text. I can only assume it's not fixed yet or they forgot to call and I'm going to be billed $100/day.

Tesla called on Friday. Said it will probably be done today (Monday) but they won't know til they drive it. So I'm waiting for a call as I have to be there within 24 hrs or I get charged storage. But this is the 3rd or 4th date they've given me. Good thing it's a holiday and somewhat easy for me...

THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH THE 12V SYSTEM!!!

3. OP replaces 12V battery on his new defective car before getting it repaired! Lesson learned. My only defense is -Said battery was in my old Tesla which was serviced several times w/o issue. Headlight LED 2x, cooled seat 2x, AP camera. No issues. -My problem was related to glass not being...

Tesla has finally responded. Here's what they said. Sounds like they are making progress although the car doesn't seem to be ready yet. I'm feeling a little better as it seems like I'm on a path to getting my vehicle back. the note about the 'aftermarket foam? I put a piece of foam in the rear...

So we're debating about me capitalizing an extra letter? Being in the EV industry 20 years you should help me(us) out. What facts don't I have? What do I have wrong about the regen? Explain to us why the car does not stop in a shorter distance under regen when the vehicle is lighter.

If this was a warranty I'd agree. It's not. The car was bad on delivery and I pointed that out when I got home. It's like buying a TV from best buy and agreeing to handle warranty claims directly with the manufacture. You plug it in and it doesn't work. Are you going to call the the...

Still no word on the car. Problems asside, in what world is it acceptable to not commutate with the customer? Then when you do, you don't tell them what you did, just that their car doesn't move and you're charging $100/day after it's completed. Never mind they said it would be completed last...

Enlighten me. What facts don't I have? I'm sorry me saying 'better regen' offends you. The statement is true. You get better regen performance. EVDRVN maybe you're angry because you misread the post and are arguing against something I didn't say. Go back to page one. I did not say 'more' regen...

I gave examples to illustrate what I was referring to. More regen BRAKING. That is what I meant. What else would weight have to do with it and why would someone care about storing more energy by having a heavier vehicle? Unless you could add the weight at the top of the hill, you're always...

Update. Right after posting my app notified me the car is charging again. So it's alive. I don't know what they did or didn't do. Silence thus far from Tesla.

Imagine you are pulling a loaded trailer and you let off accelerator to regen. You won't be able to tell the vehicle even has regen because @ 60KW of regen the energy stored by the moving weight is so high that 60KW doesn't matter much. Now flip that example. You have a moped with 60KW of...

yes. Later I posted I've calmed down. If you tell someone you shed 1000# off the car they'd *sugar* and it would be a track monster. Tell them you shed 10# and they claim it makes no difference at all. It's weird. Of course it makes a difference. It's just a math equation. I'm not here telling...

Update: text me last night 9:09PM saying windshield is installed. I replied asking for pics. They replied today and below is one of them. Fuse does not appear blown to me. The pictures do not show battery wiring so I'm wondering if it's even connected?? I asked for another further back. THey...

Exactly. IDK if the issues were related. Could have easily been a stone or something on my way home. That's why I agreed to pay w/o question. Just erring to their favor. To whiteX. Every year my family does a road trip to FL from MI in the TEsla. This was our 4th year. I had a lot of date/time...

Most likely and hopefully the tech screwed up while disconnecting power. Why did they? IDK, prob standard procedure? Why else would you mess with power when sealing glass and changing a windshield. In a bad scenario they shorted something out which is causing the fuse to blow. I could go there...

The battery is an upgrade. I own a business that modifies vehicles. With a lighter battery, the 12v bat lasts longer, has less chance of failure. The car is lighter, faster, better regen, more efficient. Every bit helps. I shouldn't have to justify this any more than swapping on better tires...

Calming down a bit, I'm not going to opt out of a clause, not going to sue. As a fellow business owner I understand how things can go sideways. My fear is that I'm going to get worked up when they call back. I still have all the original parts so worst case they bill me for problems they...

Adding just to add. In my last p100d, while on a mobile service call, the tech blamed my aftermarket tires for an issue. The actual issue was from hitting something in the road but I found it funny it was his go to.

I did not speak to a tech. The woman on the phone was relaying. She said it had a bad wire, bracket, battery, some other stuff. She didn't seem to know. I would agree that had I called Tesla and said 'my electrical system has problems' they would have full rights to blame me. But I brought it...

Took delivery Raven Performance last month. On way home car is noisy blowing cold air on my head (I live in MI bought in Chicago). Tesla literally has no service #, I call sales. They tell me I have to go thru app and someone will call me. App tells me no appointment for a month. They tell me I...

I do not believe the Raven models are charging faster. Mine does not. My Dec 2016 p100d was charging at same speed. I'm disappointed in the taper. A car rated at 200KW you'd think would charge @ 100KW higher than 50% SOC.

charge to 95%, call it good

Just heard back. Removed Trim, soapy water compressed air test. Roof glass is not sealed, windshield is fine. They cannot bandaid it as the caulk gun won't get where it needs to go. They told me Tesla will have to remove and reset roof glass. FML I'm going to be driving around with tape on my...