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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    I disagree with your view on the greenness of Tesla but I that is a separate issue. I agree that we should keep to the subject matter. You can easily find the images of many Teslas with snapped suspensions. You can also find quite a number of Tesla Sliced Wheels (just Goggle it) Anyone like to...
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    NEWS FLASH. I may have got the Galvanic Corrosion part back- asswards. The Aluminium is the less noble metal and therefore ought to become the sacrificial anode. SOMETHING is causing those steel parts to corrode but I am not entirely sure of the mechanism. That does not disprove my assertion...
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    So, question is are they perhaps using Dacromet coated bolts? Galvanic Corrosion and Cross Contamination - Body Shop Business "When bolting dissimilar metals together or even similar aluminum metals to an aluminum body, always use cathodic bolts – never anodic. In other words, you’ll use steel...
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    If anyone has any doubts that Galvanic Corrosion is a real issue then they should have a look at this thread which is right here on TM Rusting of the rear lift gate attachment points Discussion in 'Model S' started by eddiemoy, Mar 7, 2016. #1eddiemoy, Mar 7, 2016 I just noticed today how...
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    Have a look at the Edmunds Tesla walkaround. 2012 Tesla Model S Signature Performance Suspension Walkaround Close up photographs. There are certainly no fibre washers. If there is actually a film of some special material then it has never been mentioned anywhere (so far as I am aware) and it...
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    I'm not sure about the laws in USA (which may vary state to state) . In many countries consumers rights are protected under common law and can not be over-ridden by manufacturers warranties no matter what the wording. Goods must be fit for the purpose and of merchantable quality. Posters on the...
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    The Cahill Expressway is divided from the Bradfield Highway. The Cahill has 2 lanes Southbound only. The Bradfield has 6 lanes with no divider. In the morning the lanes are set to 4 lanes South 2 Lanes North. That is reversed for the afternoon peak. The reporter was driving in the 4th lane...
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    I do hope you will follow up with a fresh complaint to NHTSA. I'm just a concerned citizen but you have a lot more power as an actual owner in possession of the physical evidence. Date Complaint Filed: 05/02/2016 Date of Incident: 03/01/2016 Component(s): SUSPENSION NHTSA ID Number: 10862640...
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    I have "admitted" that I am against green scams. That is not the motivation behind my concern about the suspension problems. I'm happy to start another thread about why I believe the Tesla is not green and why I believe that Tesla executives are trousering ridiculous amounts of money that could...
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    Do a Google Image search for the picture. If it comes up then you should be able to get a better idea of the circumstances in which the damage was caused. If you read this thread Pothole in Vidor Texas Took the P85 Down Then you can see that a very minor encounter with a pothole caused the...
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    I do agree that the reporter was negligent in using the autopilot in that fashion. This is a motoring journalist who should have known better. He actually describes it as "autonomous" in the video. He should have known that it should only be used on divided roads. Dr Who has said that he would...
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    You are correct that it does have a Chinese watermark. The photograph was taken from the thread "my axles shaft broke for no reason" which was posted on this forum and subsequently deleted. The owner was decried in racist terms and accused of being a Triad member running some type of scam. All...
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    If you had your hands clasped together in your lap like the driver in the video do you believe you could take control quickly enough if the Autopilot glitched or a mechanical failure caused the car to veer into oncoming traffic. If my family was in a much smaller vehicle travelling in the...
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    I don't need to be anti-Tesla to be concerned about the huge number of Teslas that have had the suspensions fall apart. You can check for yourself by doing a Google Image search for "Copart Tesla" and also "IAAI Tesla'. If I could speak Norwegian or Danish I might be able to find even more...
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    I'm a scam buster. In particular I am a green scam buster. I'll never rid the world of con-artists and crooked businessmen but I do try to bring attention to the fact that simply CLAIMING to be green makes the promoters of such schemes almost immune to criticism. I don't believe the Model S is...
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    Do I need to be?
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    BIOHAZARD.....somebody got hurt.
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    This one is interesting. Note the extra washers underneath the nut. My take on this is that the technicians could not get the part to bolt up sufficiently tight. And so, they added the extra washer, tightened it REALLY hard. And then........ KAPOW!!
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    Lucille hasn't got any money and does not play the stock market.
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    My post history is a good deal longer than you suppose. I had to wear a frock to get access here (Lucille...loose wheel..... gettit?) If you promise not to tell then I'll let you into a secret. I'm a very close friend of that Keef Wivaneff who has posted all over the place for many years...
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    Thank you. It's a nice change from the threats and abuse I usually get for daring to suggest there is anything wrong with the Tesla.
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    "Good on the NHTSA part, but really the OP and/or those affected should do it. The FBI??? That seems overboard. Yes on the 1st part. Heavy penalties for who?" I haven't had much luck with the NHTSA. It seems that owners are much less likely to report faults than owners of GM Ford or Toyota...
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    I'm sure that if Tesla was doing that then they would be crowing about it. Here is a Model S in the wrecking yard in England. 2015 Tesla Model-S 2014 On 85 5 Door Hatchback (Electric / Automatic) breaking for used and spare parts from Car Transplants in Nantwich, Cheshire You can see rust on...
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    I am certain that this is far from an isolated incident." If the cause had been a damaged rubber boot on one side of the car then why did Tesla replace both sides? I'm assuming that you car has had the regular maintenance done on it Where I live cars are not required to have safety checks by...
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    Incidentally, that car was up for sale as a salvage wreck because of "undercarriage damage" Play the video at 0.25 speed and look closely at the 1 minute mark. There is a castellated nut without a locking pin which has unscrewed itself. I don't think Tesla normally even bother to fit castellated...
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    To prevent Galvanic corrosion it is necessary to electrically isolate the dissimilar metals. It is plain as day from photographs that Tesla is ignoring that rule. Look at the complaints about the air struts on the tailgate rusting . That is in a part of the car that only gets rainwater. The...
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    "On my S, for the sake of corrosion protection, I did paint my suspension components, as my brake parts. This keeps my cars suspension components (and brakes) in very nice condition. The upper suspension parts were painted in clear coat. This provides a shield againt oxygen (needed to have the...
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    There may not be a lot of salt on the roads but if you live anywhere near the coast then the the conditions are right to cause corrosion. The creaking might be annoying but I think folks will find it much more annoying when the suspension snaps going around a bend at 70 MPH.
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    But the original poster reported that Tesla are replacing the ball joints on BOTH sides. This is not isolated to one side of the car and simply caused by a damaged rubber bbot. This is a systemic failure that is NOT just one freak occurrence. This is a design and maintenance issue that affects...
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    Absolutely true. Corroding side view mirror brackets on norwegian cars
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    PLEASE don't think that substituting stainless steel for mild steel is a solution. As owners found out with the stainless steel side mirrors what happens the is that the Aluminium becomes the sacrificial anode and that turns to dust instead. Warning to all elise/exige/europa owners/potential...
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    1 It looks to me as though the problem is a simple case of Galvanic Corrosion. The original poster's snapped dislocated ball-joint did not fail because of a loss of lubrication. If that was the case then the ball would have been bright metal. Aluminium in direct contact with steel plus...
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    Why would he need to do that? Do you think it is acceptable for the wheels to fall off at 70K miles?
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    Suspension Problem on Model S

    Congratulations. You have made it to the number one position on FLICKR TESLA WHOMPY WHEELS. I do hope that yours is the only Model S in the entire world that has had the ball joint eaten away by Galvanic Corrosion to the point that it has popped out of the cup. Somehow I doubt that. Tesla...
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    Suspension Problem on Model S