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Same boat. Was in a model S that I loved. I like almost everything about the 3 better except ride quality. oh well.

Yeah pretty sure you could do as you describe. Not sure you can trade it to a dealer and have them pay it off. I haven't done it before, so not sure of the details - was just reporting something I read on the internet - quite possibly could have been inaccurate. Just advising someone to do...

At first I was like "that's picky....they all have that....dust nibs...paint runs...man this car has a lot of nibs....and chips....and pushed in panels? paint falling off the bumper? wtf."

That post was from august. More videos have come out since then that were not available at the time, and yes you are right, the p3d is faster than the advertised 3.5 as someone put lightweight wheels on and got a sub 3.2 time. I think that was w/o rollout, but I don't honestly remember, nor do...

I had a similar problem with Tesla roadside. I think the call center is just disorganized.

Is this through tesla or usbank? I heard usbank wont let you sell the car to a dealer and pocket the difference. I had never heard of that but someone on another thread said there was something in the language about that. YMMV. Get the inspection done via autovin ahead of time. Some were told...

Wow nice.

You know I do have chill mode on. I was doing it because people were talking about too much torque etc, but I never had the problem in my P90DL (it was heavier and it had a different problem of a great stopping distance, but that was predictable). I'll turn chill mode off and see if I do any...

Yes, i had a lexus full size SUV or something in front of me that i was staring at and I didn't see it having any issue at all - plus, the snow was worn almost (but not) completely through to the pavement along the two tire tracks that I was driving along. I was caught totally off guard by the...

Minneapolis. EDIT: Snowy as all get out here - but fortunately (outside of the street i live on) almost completely flat.

Michelin xice xi3 are all season right? right?? You are such a good guesser.

If I limit torque application anymore I will have no forward propulsion. My p90dl had much more power from a standstill and was infinitely easier to drive in the snow. I don't want less torque, I want more torque from the front.

Drove an outback for 6 years in New Hampshire/Vermont. Never experienced this degree of wiggle in that car. I almost fishtailed off an off ramp 10 minutes ago. Was with traffic, partial snow and ice cover with tracks visible to pavement. Going 30 mph with traffic, out of nowhere back end slides...

I can easily get the wiggle with gentle acceleration. Our roads and plowing are crap in Minnesota. I get that the car will correct via traction control but it is different and imo annoying versus other AWD cars I have driven. It would be great if Tesla could fix, otherwise I will just change cars.

Would rather have my S back than my p3d. I don't care for the 3s ride. Still debating what to do.

+1 for a snow mode with fwd bias to get rid of this 30mph straight line wiggle in heavy traffic. I'm not rally racing I'm commuting. And no it's not the torque of an EV I'm not use to, the behavior is night and day more annoying than my p90dl was.

Everyday I miss the smoothness of my 2016 S with SAS (this was on 19s). When my 3 was having delivery defects fixed (or attempted to fix anyway) I was in a loaner coil suspension 2015 model S. It rode pretty similar to my 3 over bumps, but admittedly a touch better. I would take back my S with...

Overall preferred my S because of the smooth air suspension and quieter cabin. 3 is better in most other ways though.

My pixel XL and pixel 3xl are good but not flawless. They are both probably 99% successful.

let's just keep that between us before they notice :D

Even Tesla didn't think that was worth $5k ;)

I have essentially the same car. P3d- full wrap, accessories 2k miles etc. My total out the door was $84k - tax credit -5k refund = 71.5. 59k before wrap and taxes is a way to look at it from a buyer's perspective. No offense but you are out of your mind at 70k. I'm not in love with the car...

Xpel stealth over midnight silver

P3d- owners easily got the best deal price/performance wise. I couldn't care less about track mode. I would love a snow mode that reduced the rear wheel drive bias if possible, though.

wish there was an option for better sound deadening, air suspension and heated steering wheel in 3. Those are enough to make me miss the S. I definitely do not miss the size though.

Oh sorry, I'm in MN. Maybe I didn't have to pay that since it cost $1200 each year to renew the registration. MN has so many taxes disguised as "fees."

I turned in a us bank lease and just paid $395 + $25 in random crap I didn't really pay attention to. Certainly no $2k+ tax.

Aren't these the things that corrode and get stuck?

I had this problem which has now gone away with the cold (-25). I assume it will come back with the 30 degree heat wave this weekend.

+1 Heavy steering after car sat in -25 parking garage for 10 hours.

I can't tell if you're playing along or you really didn't understand it was a joke.

Article obviously a fabrication - everyone knows there were never QC staff at Tesla, much less an entire department!

Wow, brutal experience.

A new red P3D with white interior and EAP is 70,500 before fees, so I'm assuming that's the same spec as this car + delivery and doc fee? But I would want to see the window sticker as there have been so many pricing changes on this model in the last 3 months. I don't think I would be too...

I dont think the current range in the model X is great for fast, non-stop trips. Either plan on supercharging or take your ICE. You're lucky it's that warm.

Pics might help. Personally as someone who has had their car damaged by Tesla trying to fix delivery issues and then having to fight them to fix those, I would be cautious about getting minor things fixed. As far as perfect tesla paint, people will undoubtedly claim they got a defect free car...

I would love this if I could also easily drive 300 miles in the winter without supercharger delays.

We need some complaining to balance out the Tesla does no wrong crowd.

Wow.

Not sure anyone claimed it helps :)

I don't think it's fair to say in -20 that "most" ICE vehicles won't start. Either that or I've just been driving the right ones. We often get to -20 for at least a couple days a year and I can't remember not having a vehicle start due to cold. Might chug along for a second or two as you start...

I've only noticed it when first coming on - but I only commute in relatively well-lit urban areas with continuous adjacent and oncoming traffic, so it would be hard for me to notice flickering while driving.

Yes because obviously no one had real problems to complain about.

Lots of people experiencing headlight flickering on model 3 in cold weather, myself included.

Maybe if Tesla gets burned on a couple transactions like this they'll figure it out. It's not supposed to be this hard to buy a car.

I dunno those prices seem high to me. I have a P3D- with a full car xpel stealth wrap, painted brakes with 1800 miles on it and I doubt I could get 60?

Following. Model 3 sounds like a window is open at speed.

I usually undo my seatbelt at the end of my driveway out of habit and roll slowly into my garage. The model 3 will usually abruptly shift to park. Drives me crazy.

I've noticed both effects. The 3's suspension is bad over rough roads. I've also noticed the bizarre back and forth rocking over certain roads at certain speeds. In the end it will likely end up being too much for me and I will trade the car.

My opinion hasn't changed much since I posted this. Power still feels good, but like someone above said, the P90DL was just so much more brutal from a stop - after that I don't notice as much difference. Car still sounds/feels too loud and rough for me. I'm not into sporty suspensions (one...