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    Bump repair - Edinburgh?

    When a stone fell off scaffolding onto the bonnet of my Model X, these guys in Straiton repaired it. Fantastic job, although not as cheap as the above. ProTouch Automotive | Car Body Repair Edinburgh | Smart Repair |
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    MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE 2 Real life experience

    I had a set of CC SUV on my Model X for about 16000 miles and have just changed to CC SUV 2 which have around 3000 miles on them. I found the CC SUV good and the SUV 2s excellent. I found noise similar or less than the OEM Latitude Sports. The Lattitude Sports were terrible in the slightest...
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    Tesla UK T0 Tyre Directive

    I don’t know how the local Edinburgh Costco sells any tyres. They have refused to fit non T0 tyres to my Tesla and non Porsche Pilot Sports to my 911. I have basically given up on them. They also have a massive wait to get an appointment. For what it’s worth I have had Kwik Fit and Halfords...
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    [UK] Model S/X LHD Discussion

    Pre the Palladium models, Tesla had been reducing the price of the S and X as they were struggling to keep volumes up. See chart below of S pricing. I think again this is due to the limited market size at 100k+. When they introduced the Palladium model, not only was there a general shortage...
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    [UK] Model S/X LHD Discussion

    As you say price and HP/performance are usually well linked. I was surprised to see that spec 0-62 on the 545 is 4.7s and I saw a road test that got an actual time of 4.4. Slower than a Model S LR, but still a very fast car. BMW I have noticed have massively improved 0-60 times in the last few...
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    [UK] Model S/X LHD Discussion

    I think it is interesting that Tesla would rather cut prices in the US than produce RHD cars to take up the slack in demand, although that would only provide temporary respite and a price cut for the S and X was expected. Surprisingly the German/French price for a LR X or S is actually still...
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    Model S/X Refresh UK Waiting Room

    US prices are pre tax and "destination fee", Europe post tax and fee. To get from the US to the EU/UK price you have to add 10% import duty then 20% VAT on the total including the duty I believe. Then convert to local currency. So $(114990+1390) x 1.1 x 1.2 / 1.09 (Current exchange rate) =...
  8. M

    X 2023 face-lift in UK?

    Hi Simon, No chance of getting a new X by June in the U.K. I’m afraid. They’d have announced it was coming by now. Maybe around year end, although no one knows for certain. I just test drove an iX 40 which was very nice and you can get some good deals on at the moment. As to the price of the...
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    Model S/X Refresh UK Waiting Room

    I got the same email, I am guessing it was just sent out automatically by accident. I have a Plaid X on order with 7 seats, also at £121k. If you take the US price, add VAT and import duty and convert it to GBP, the new price is still more than this. the current EU price is also more than...
  10. M

    MOT Edinburgh

    I have had three MOTs done at the Morningside branch of Kwik Fit. Staff there are very good.
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    I had a call from as sales representative at Tesla today...

    I expect price cuts are coming as @upgraded pointed out. I don't think this is just a Tesla issue. Cars have been increasing in price and discounts have been hard to come by for a couple of years. People could stomach this as financing was cheap and they were often only looking at monthly...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I'm in the UK so feel like it could easily be 12-18 months before I get a car if at all. Thought I would ask this anyway though. With the recent policy change to allow people to change their order and the keep the price from the time of their order, does this include the ability to change from...
  13. M

    Octopus Energy, including Intelligent and go

    Someone contacted me about it on Sunday then disappeared. I suspect what will happen is that they will put out another update and it will be fixed before I can actually discuss it with anyone
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    Octopus Energy, including Intelligent and go

    That option has gone too. It still seems to be controlling the car charging at night, but all reference to it in the app is gone.
  15. M

    Octopus Energy, including Intelligent and go

    I have been on to Octopus who have asked me to do all the usual things such as update the app and my phone, delete and reload the app and the Tesla app. Nothing has helped. I think it is a bug from the app update released on Friday. Mine is doing the same in that today it stopped charging a...
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    Octopus Energy, including Intelligent and go

    Has anyone else had the Devices tab disappear in their Octopus app? Has to been there since Friday for me, when I think they updated the app. I cannot see if I am getting any extra charging slots over and above the 1130-530 slot. Also the car just stopped rated to charge the last time I...
  17. M

    Buying a Used X direct from Tesla UK

    Hi, Better posting in the UK forum.Maybe mods can move this. I haven't bought anything used from Tesla, but their customer service can be poor and confusing.
  18. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    That’s a good point that probably helps reduce depreciation on a Tesla. On a BMW most of the options will lose most of their value when you come to sell it. On the other hand you won’t get a discount on a Tesla. I tend to do a simple calculation of what the net loss in value would be over 3-4...
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    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    I do wonder how much this saves Tesla and if it is meaningful why other companies don't do it. In general it does Tesla buyers a favour as Teslas come with a lot of things which seem to be options in other cars such as electric seats, glass roofs etc. Although some other things are missing. The...
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    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    The Taycan vs i4 M50 review in Autocar today made me check the i4's price in the USA. The i4 price does not seem crazy in the UK to me. The i4 M50 lists at $65900, add VAT and convert into GBP and you get £58,600. The list price here is £63,905. Metallic is free here, $550 in the US. The...
  21. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    As many comments coming now are about interior quality. Although the design of the iX was nice inside, the standard leather was very rough and the plastics much lower quality than in my Model X. Also the headliner was no where near as nice as the alcantara.
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    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    I don’t understand people being attached to any one brand. I have just bought whatever car I liked/suited my needs at the time. From memory- Citroen, Nissan, Audi, Audi, BMW, BMW, Porsche, Range Rover, Tesla The only slight bias I would have is that the local Audi dealership are arrogant and...
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    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    TBF this has not been the case for a while especially with the weaker pound in the last few years. Give or take, list prices are similar in the UK and Europe. The US is still often cheaper, but even then not always. The Taycan is cheaper here than the US, after accounting for taxes. The thing...
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    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    Actually considering it, the other thing that car reviewers seem to put little weight on is practicality. In general the Model X is not one of the best reviewed cars by motoring journalists. However, it is one of the most practical cars that you can buy. This seems to be of very little...
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    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    I did exactly that adding VAT and tariffs where necessary to get to UK prices. One of the issues is that the iX is being sold at more of a premium in the UK to its US price than other cars. They do indeed, I am sure it is a very nice car. But I always worry that reviews, where people are...
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    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    I actually thought the i4 wasn't too bad. Looks about 7-8k more than the same spec of Model 3 and it may feel like a more expensive car. But for the iX 50, performance and space are closer to a Model Y LR, which is almost 40k cheaper, than a Model X LR. I would think that the BMW feels a more...
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    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    That’s definitely true of ICE vehicles. (Although current discounts are much smaller than normal due to shortages, more like 5-10%) When you compare the price of an ICE Vehicle to a Tesla you should take into account discounts and not the list price. But there are no discounts on the iX at...
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    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    With frustration over the wait for a new Model X and now the possibility of no 7 seater being available in the Plaid, there is a cancelled order BMW iX going very cheap at the moment. So I went along to the local BMW dealer to have a look. The interior design is very nice to look at but to me...
  29. M

    Edinburgh central charging options?

    It is a lovely car park, nice wide spaces, well lit etc. The Omni Centre is awful, some of the turns are so tight that I need to do a 3 point turn to get around in my X.
  30. M

    Edinburgh central charging options?

    The new St. James Quarter has 45 type 2 chargers in the car park. Despite it opening a few weeks ago, however, they have not switched them on yet. They are all sitting there ready, so I would think it is imminent but I cannot find a date.
  31. M

    Model S Plaid Insurance

    Hello New Zealand. It’s a lovely place. We basically have the same system although they now have 50 groups with a letter added depending on whether the car has good security. This was supposed to increase the range of groupings, but a large number of cars are in group 50 including my Model X...
  32. M

    LV hiking insurance prices?

    Having used Admiral multiyear for quite a few years I just changed to Churchill who were substantially cheaper than my quoted renewal. £365 on a 2017 Model X 75 D with £35 cash back. Very pleased.
  33. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    You were spot on there as the LRs have gone up $5k today. I guess the UK price looks more correct now. I might place a Model X order in case they try putting the price up here. I had thought it would actually fall over the next couple of years and there is a chance that we do a trade deal with...
  34. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    You are absolutely right, I usually do a spreadsheet of alternatives then buy the car I wanted anyway. It is just nice to know that the decision is not crazy. I think though the issue here is that the car I want is not a 5 year old Model X and Tesla have created quite an annoying situation. I...
  35. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    Certainly if using the 7 seats it is not (I know there is now a 7 seat Y option but they look very tight). We used to do a carpool with neighbours and use them every day, but they have moved. I would still much rather have an X but I could make do with a Y if it was available. It looks like it...
  36. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    Tesla used to avoid a 10% tariff by doing final assembly in Tilburg, but they have now stopped this. On top of that the pound has weakened since the X was introduced, however they have not cut the price after the recent rebound. The X LR should probably be priced at around £85k today (£5k above...
  37. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    I have a 75D which is currently valued at 55k by Webuyanycar. Could probably get a bit more for it but I use that as a benchmark value. This is more than it was worth a year ago. I am suspicious that when it is five years old and a new Model X is available that it will drop to around 40% of the...
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    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    Moderator comment - posts moved from "Model Y - UK estimated dates and pricing." I see some people speculating the Model Y RHD might come from China around the end of this year. I am still totally torn as to how to replace my X at year end when the PCP runs out. My wife is pretty insistent...
  39. M

    Model S Plaid Insurance

    I have a 911 which was over 100k new, although not as fast as a Model S Plaid. It costs a lot less than my Model X to insure, about 1/3 of the price. I think that "proper" sports cars do quite low mileages and tend to be well looked after so are cheapish to insure relative to their value...
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    Model S Plaid Insurance

    Considering all the threads re insurance costs for the M3P. Can't wait to see the first quotes for the Model S Plaid. Historically high prices have limited the number of extremely fast cars on the road. There are a few cars in the US with similar top speed, slower accelerating still, that cost...
  41. M

    Anyone comparing the e-tron GT to the Model S

    I don't know what the average use on the site is, but I have never once used a supercharger for a long trip. In the last 10 years, the furthest I have driven in a day is 150 miles. If you make a lot of long trips I would say superchargers are a big benefit, but the average UK driver doesn't...
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    Anyone comparing the e-tron GT to the Model S

    I am in the same boat, I find it increasingly hard not to drive something electric, it just feels nicer. However, my 911 is a cabriolet, if there was an electric cabriolet available I would be all over that. Glad you agree with me re the weight of the Taycan. I am just going on many reviews...
  43. M

    Anyone comparing the e-tron GT to the Model S

    Needs serviced every two years or 18,000 miles. Standard for most German cars. A lot of people would only need one service during their ownership of the car. Despite not officially needing a service I had my Model X looked at last year and they did a brake clean. I was not comfortable with the...
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    Anyone comparing the e-tron GT to the Model S

    I drive a Model X (and a 911). I test drove a Taycan 4S last year considering it versus my 911. I decided that nice car as it was, it still is a very heavy car and despite what the press says felt nothing like the 911 to drive to me. It also needed options that would bring the price up to...
  45. M

    WARNING against Michelin Cross Climate+ Tires

    Sorry I just saw this I have Crossclimate SUVs. My car has 255/45W20 on the front. They are 105W rated versus 105Y rated for the original Latitude Sport 3 acoustics. That is an ample top speed rating of 168mph The rears are 275/45Y20 so the same 110Y rating as the OEM tyres. I checked the...
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    Lights going Yellow to replace $8,000

    Is it just the polycarbonate front covers? My brother's old Nissan had this at 8 or 9 years old. I bought a kit from Amazon for a few pounds and fixed it. You get a paste like toothpaste that you rub onto the light and then buff off. Indeed I have read tat you can use toothpaste to fix the...
  47. M

    Model X -> PHEV : Regrettably after 4 years

    The leasing site seems to have the wrong weight. The X5 is 2510kg according to the BMW site which does surprisingly make it a little heavier than a Model X. This car seems to be the best reviewed of the similar sized hybrid EVs at the moment. I must admit that with the delay to the new Model X...
  48. M

    What happens if your Model S or X lease/PCP runs out during 2021?

    I have been excitedly waiting for the Model X refresh as my current PCP runs out in December. At 1.9% APR it was a no brainer at the time. Ignoring thoughts re the refresh, UK delivery is listed as 2022. Presumably quite a few people will have their Model S or X due to go back this year with no...
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    Warning! New Brake Pads and Discs after 13,000 miles

    It was Edinburgh. They are normally very good and didn't push it. Just before I sold my RR Sport I had the same discussion with the dealer re brakes. They were a bit more specific about when they would need replaced. I tried to make them last until I sold it, but ended up having to replace...
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    Are Tesla cars a good investment?

    A Model 3 LR costs £47,000 currently. Changing the question to is it a good idea/deal. You would expect to lose 40-50% of that over 3 years. So £19-23,000. So if you bought one and kept if for 3 years it would cost roughly £7,000 a year in depreciation (I cross referenced leasing costs which...