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I am a conservative driver with AP1. I keep one hand on the wheel for autosteer and I turn off AutoP when I think it’s going to be stressful to oversee. It’s still a tremendous stress/fatigue reliever for me. Why? Keeping your foot off the pedal, all that pedaling adds up. Not having to be...

I would just install it. The Blackvue will probably be a higher quality, more mature product, and you'll have the video coverage instead of waiting for Tesla's. It's hard to imagine Tesla's built-in solution will have much video coverage -- where would all the video be spooled to? I'm...

I am on a AP1 Model S 75. I got the update push to me yesterday when checking in at a service center. No detectable difference except today, to my annoyance, on the SF bay bridge the auto pilot speed semi dropped to 60 mph. I was able to manually tweak it back to 70, but that had never happened...

New firmware, annoying USB music change. Basically if you have an album with different singers, it gets split into different albums. so for instance the Hamilton soundtrack is now forty different albums. What I think infuriates us about this kind of this is: 1. WHY? Is this regression a...

Just there over the weekend on Sunday morning. It was CROWDED and the lot is small (and used by the service center) so there's not a natural place to wait for spots. I parked and stood and when a spot opened (in about 5 min), someone pulled in and started to take the spot. Luckily, all I had to...

Awesome, my wife just asked about whether we could drive from SF to the Grand Canyon. I've only got an S60, so some of those hops look a bit close. Kingman to Flagstaff, round trip to GC...

Yup, applied 9/24, just got check-in-mail-email today (11/16).

Summon isn't exactly mission critical for me, but I have used it a lot more than I thought I would. Basically, I use it to adjust my parking once I'm out of the car and I can see better, and a couple of times I used it to get into parking spots that were too tight to exit the car. For this...

Yeah I just did this trip to Anaheim last month. Pretty straightforward, though I took care to avoid Burbank SuperChargers. I left SF Bay around 4, hit Gilroy, Harris Ranch, Tejon Ranch, then charged at Anaheim Marriott. Same chargers on the way back. Eating at Harris Ranch is a kind of...

FYI, I just got my carpool decals (10/27). I applied 9/24, so about five weeks.

:D High fives all around!

For the SF-LA route, I'd like to see something on 5 between Dublin and Harris Ranch. As it is, with my S60, I pretty much have to go out of the way through Gilroy.

From another thread: My feelings are mixed of course. I took the car on Sept 11 and it is fantastic. So of course it hurts to miss the refresh by six weeks. But AP1 is already so far beyond other cars. Now I was thinking about whether to buy the new car and trade in the current. But I'm going...

My feelings are mixed of course. I took the car on Sept 11 and it is fantastic. So of course it hurts to miss the refresh by six weeks. But AP1 is already so far beyond other cars. Now I was thinking about whether to buy the new car and trade in the current. But I'm going to wait because: AP2...

With Autopilot 2.0, your Tesla will be able to punch itself in the charger port.

You might be right. It's not about logic, though. It's about handling the fringe cases of human irresponsibility... Who knows if it can be settled with a rename. Maybe you'll need to pass a driving test before turning CoPilot 4.0 on...

I suspect Tesla may eventually end up renaming AP "Co-Pilot".

Not sure of this exact issue, but I believe AP has a longstanding issue with blindness to stationary objects. Makes sense that this exact situation would confuse it (cars move out of way to reveal still object).

Death or Glory by the Clash!

When I use Autopilot, I keep a hand touching the wheel and my right foot on the floor near but not over the pedal. Then I watch the road to see that the car is going where I would have steered it. I pay casual attention for the parts that AP is good at - flat, well marked lanes that are not...

Yep, I had the constant rebooting also. I remembered from TMC that the last one was due to wonky nav info (I think) so I put the nav away (music and power use instead) and that stopped the reboots. Could have been a coincidence though.

Okay, here is the update from the second half of my big road trip with AP 8.0. Another 500 miles. Overall, AP is still a huge lifesaver both in stop and go traffic and also highway speeds. I don't feel that it performs much differently than 7.1. I do think that AP works a little less well on...

Preliminary report from driving on AP w 8.0 from SF to LA. 450 miles. 2 glowy alerts, once I felt unfair, once when I actually did have hands-off wheel for a moment to handle something. When I hit LA region, maybe confirmation bias, but the car did seem to sway a bit 3 or 4 times, but only for...

Also you basically can't use them when someone is in the rear middle seat. They also seem pretty fragile to me... I'm waiting for one little accident to rip them off. USB ports are useful though.

I use AP 8.0 all the time and just keep my hands more ready when approaching curves or across intersections. If you feel it go awry, just correct with the wheel. Anyone reading this thread would think AP always just rockets towards every truck and swings left and right randomly. If my AP did...

I'm used to not using the glacial browser, but this would make my kids happy when parked... Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk Not mentioned, but dare we hope for new Nav software while we're at it?

Yes your car is unusually dangerous and I wouldn't drive w AP on it. I'd go to the service center and show them. Something must be wrong if AP never works. AP 8.0 has been excellent for me, knowing its limitations. I'm driving down to SoCal for the weekend, and I've noticed some of the AP 8.0...

About to go on a 900 mile road trip, so I may have more thoughts on 8.0 AP. But given its existing limitations from 7.x -- flaky in intersections and off-ramps, squirrely on hill crests, drifts out on curves, stays too close to cars in next lane -- I've found it to be quite solid. And in...

Voice recognition is fine, even good, on 8.0. However, as mentioned above, I have to speak a lot louder, which is annoying.

Applied 9/24, approved 9/29. $ coming in December. Completed a pretty long survey too.

Yes, share it with them! Another fellow from NY complained about swerve... maybe there's something in common... I've never fully trusted AP on curves myself. It hasn't taken me off-road, but it definitely drifts too far to the outside for my comfort.

Whoa, I wonder how Tesla can get data from these weird "drive off road" reports, assuming they are real. AP 8.0 has been quite solid for me, but I just drive normal roads in the Bay Area. Also, it may be that Tesla completely underestimated how many people are using giant USB music...

I put hands at 5 and 7 o'clock (actually was taught to do that by traffic safety instructor - he said otherwise you might get arms in face on airbag deploy). It's comfortable and I never turn the wrong way. I have gotten exactly one nag in about 100 miles on 8.0. (I'm also quite good at FPS...

Ah, thanks. Improved cut-in detection using blinker on vehicle ahead I'm not sure how improved it is, but I generally found it does a good job. Car offsets in lane when overtaking a slower vehicle driving close to its lane edge This one I haven't seen working at all, and it's something I...

These look familiar, but I can't find where you're getting these? This post with release notes does not list either one: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/goto/post?id=1750675#post-1750675

I know it's frustrating but it's well known in software development that every preference checkbox adds extra testing and possible regressions.

1. It does seem a little smoother. But 7.1 stop and go was already awesome. 2. I don't see much difference either. Maybe a bit smoother braking. 3. Agree. 4. Was this promised? Maybe 8.1. I have never had an issue with cars cutting in, but if it's really close I just brake myself without letting...

One little thing about my 8.0 update. i believe it changed my Summon "require continuous press" setting to Yes. I only figured this out when Summon wouldn't work from my keyfob. I first thought I was just using it wrong.

Yeah I use it all the time. I don't stare at it for long stretches, but I regularly peek at it so I know what AP thinks is happening out there. So if a car cuts in, I peek at it to see if it noticed (it always has), or if the lane markings get light, I see if AP is still confident. I do wish...

I don't use TuneIn much, but yes it hangs for me on launch. Can't even scroll down to enter in TuneIn login info.

Fair enough! (Actually the lack of money was the limiting factor up until this year...:))

And I've posted Part 2 now!

In Part 1, I discussed my decision to get a Tesla; this is what happened after the order. I know that when I was deciding on whether to take the big purchase, I read as many owner accounts as I could, and when I was enduring the long wait for the actual car, I read through all of the reports on...

Very glad to hear it's 3 second-level nags that lock you out (three first nags would be way too early). In fact I'd venture that even two second level nags should lock you for the good of society. Any better handling of going over hills? (I have 8.0 but haven't had a chance to drive around on...

The browser still seems slow to me. I won't get a good long stretch w AP until the weekend, but I'll try to trigger the pulsing white 3 times and see if it locks me out. As far as I'm concerned, if you escalate past pulses three times, you deserve to have AP turned off. But three...

As others noted, favorites and driver profiles seem the same. I think it changed my right dashboard view but I changed it back. Contrary to what I read before, sunroof control is STILL an option for right scroller. Upgrade DID reset my temperature on both sides, so check climate prefs. And...

I never thought of this, but I wonder if Teslas should put on the brake lights for Regen braking when the car decelerates.

Update staged 1:30am, Car on home wifi. But people looking for the magic formula may be confused, because I also - drove by the local service center yesterday - got on the Tesla Service network - already got the "wait this isn't 8" security patch on Tuesday - held a overnight vigil at Tesla HQ...

I have the sparkles thing in the top left corner of my windshield. Annoying at pickup but I guess doesn't matter much in actual use...?

This is going to be a short account of (1) my decision to get a Tesla; and (2) the wait, pick up and impressions from the first weeks with her. I know that when I was deciding on whether to take the big purchase, I read as many owner accounts as I could, and when I was enduring the long wait for...