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It’s ridiculous! It’s the kind of troll job that would take a pretty profound sense of wrong to actually make enough people actually care about so many years later. Especially dorks who paid $100k for a car. Or maybe even twice!

I've only been here for 6 years since Tesla released a video *demonstrating* that "self-driving" cars were right around the corner. I totally understood that it was probably a bit of a stretch and maybe it wasn't 100% but I did think that it was at least probably close to reality. Obviously I'm...

I just picked my car up after having half shafts replaced. Shutter had gotten progressively worse to where it happened even during moderate acceleration. Anyhow, very similar problem to this post. Pulled out of the parking lot, stopped at a stop sign, and as soon as I pressed the accelerator to...

Not to nitpick, but Subaru's system is vision-only

We've had two Outbacks over nearly six years, both with their TACC package. We have never had this happen on either of them. That is not an exaggeration. My S will do it at least once a day over 30ish miles of commuting. Sometimes because it thinks there's a stoplight on the highway. Sometimes...

10.9 still tries to stop for the train control light on the highway. That pretty much makes me have to disable FSD, but I did try a bit around my neighborhood first and experienced no improvement.

It’s sort of picky, but a wrinkle is that traffic light controls are enabled in highway AP anytime FSD is enabled. I can’t use FSD on an area highway because it has train tracks down the middle with train control lights. The traffic control code will stop in the interstate if the lights are red...

It only happens when I'm in the right hand lane where the 30 MPH sign is closely aligned with the US-45 sign. If I'm in the left lane there is enough parallax between the two that I think the NN identifies the signs separately. The part of it that makes me go "hmmm" is that this is the same...

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I see no changes with 10.6.1. I leave FSD mostly off these days because I find it just too dangerous for day to day driving. But, I have developed a few test points where I see if it has improved. - still comes to a complete stop on the highway when it sees train control lights that are red -...

I also went from 10.5 to 10.6.1. It’s not in the release notes, but this release includes a 19.7% increase in permanence of longitudinal UVD detection and in right turn - when turning right - scenarios, an uprevving of Chinese (simplified) language detection of potential scenario network visibility.

My wife and I were on a country road with no one around us and it came to a complete stop for no reason. I let it go to see how far it would slow down bc there was no one else on the road. Then after a cpl seconds it drove on. No idea what it thinks it saw. That’s an extreme occurrence, but I...

I have received the 2021.36.8.8 update and I can confirm a 13% improvement in static world prediction. Could be the martini. But fairly confident. Wayyyyy more than 12%

I’m not an actuary, but there is zero chance this “score” has any but the weakest correlation with hitting things and/or hurting people or damaging property. And it’s not sour grapes - I have FSD. The math is total BS. For instance, the “aggressive braking” coefficient basically, like a lot of...

And it’s not lane confusion where maybe I was on a misinterpreted exit lane w stop lights at the end. That I could understand as an error. Lane Confusion - sounds like a syndrome

More fun with interstate traffic control. Here it sees traffic signals on the overpass and tells me it’s preparing to stop for traffic control in 500 feet. Pre-FSD I turned off traffic control response bc it would stop for train control signals on the highway, but with FSD enabled traffic...

Steering practice

I think what @EVNow is saying is the car’s position is the starting point - period. The path planner is supposed to calculate the path to the “endpoint” whatever / wherever that is (which is sort of the problem). So the path can’t possibly exclude the current position of the car otherwise it’s...

It's a two lane (each way) road. Addison Street in Chicago. I'm stopped at a light behind a car that is letting a car in from a driveway from the strip mall. We're actually not moving at all. For some reason - I have no idea why - it is trying to move me through a crossover and past the Civic...

But it's so wrong. So. Wrong. Path planner. Planners of paths. Path planning daemon of whatever domain. It's just wrong. Here I'm stopped. This is the predicted path :confused: Or, you can look at the world and realize the path is ... a straight line forward.

Yes. It's a bug at best; design fail at worst. Tesla wrote that we're responsible for a 5,000# machine doing potentially the worst possible thing at the worst possible time. I don't give a crap why it does what it does - if it can spin the wheel 90 degrees in a second and it can accelerate to 60...

I just tried to engage FSD for one right turn on the way home. It jerked the wheel so hard to the left that it instantly disengaged bc I was holding the wheel. It was an easy 10 mph right turn with no tricks. I have no idea where it was going turning left. That was the 0.25 sec of FSD engagement...

There's a train line down the middle of I-90 in Chicago. There are train traffic control lights by the track and visible from the interstate. I had to disable stop sign / traffic control response in AP because it kept stopping on the interstate for the train control signals. Well, it turns out...

I must have missed this. So two over the limit violations and you're out? Is there a timeframe? I got my first this past weekend when I tried to give it a little gas to finish passing someone with a tailgater on me.

I did

For all the new stuff in FSD, it still interprets the US 45 highway sign as a speed limit sign. I first saw this last year, and it's unchanged. My video isn't very good, but you see the 30 MPH speed limit sign, then the US 45 sign. FSD bumps the speed up to 50 in a 30 Vroom!

Yes, I noticed this speed limit behavior over the weekend. Whenever I went through a town and it slowed down from a 55 to a 35 (or whatever) it would set the max to 40 but then just cruise along at 60. Eventually I just turned it off to slow down because I didn't think it would ever slow down on...

Just cuz three’s a trend, I also have a 2019 MS w 10.4 and no live sentry

There are lots of "Do not block intersection - $500 fine" signs on my way from the house to the highway. With my terrible 95 score I'm just kind of borrowing worries here, but does anyone know if it blocks intersections on busy streets in stop and go traffic?

Holy crap! 10 new pages of deliberations on The Safety Score since noon today! Everybody's taking the chance Safety dance Oh well, the safety dance Ah yes, the safety dance

For sure! I rarely have to use the brake, but today AP in stop n go traffic dropped the brake pedal to the floor almost every third stop. Panic at 5MPH!

I wonder if I can put my car up on blocks, put a cinderblock in the seat, set the cruise to 65 and let it go. I wonder if it would run! 😆 Ferris Bueller style. A little over 50 hours I'd be at enough miles to counteract The Bad Day. I wonder what my Wh/mi would be

Because of my aforementioned one bad day on the road with my 2.5% hard braking score resulting in a 94 for a 613 miles drive, I will need to log 3,055 miles of perfect 100s to get to 99. (All my other days are 99 or 100s) Guess I'm in purgatory for a while

But, in my case, I couldn’t possibly recover. I did a 600 mile round trip to a vendor. I made four stops along the way each with maybe a dozen braking events. I’m getting off the highway and going to Culver’s to charge or whatever. But so I’m rolling at 20 MPH in a strange place with no one...

Yes! It’s his own personal version of The Real World. It’s kind of weird that thousands or maybe tens of thousands of people have literally turned their daily commutes into a video game to win a prize

I understand that. My beef is that in aggregate the hit those braking events cause is amplified by the day's driving when calculating the overall score (the one you see on the first screen of the safety report). What I'm getting at is that all the braking events for all the days I drive should...

Right. The score is 98 when using the simulator and my aggregated scoring factors. But their weighting of daily values by mileage gives me 95

Between my credit score, my Uber passenger rating, my kids’ opinion of my cooking, and my TMC reaction score, I have plenty of people judging me. :p I’m just going to drive from now on

I've posted in a cpl places already, but even this strategy is flawed. I drove 600 miles yesterday but had a couple of "hard braking" dings. Total BS, but whatever cuz I drove so many miles. But the proportion of braking events yesterday was higher than normal (I usually drive around the town...

I had a 97 (98? Don’t quite remember) going into yesterday. Yesterday I did a 600 mile road trip to a vendor. Two stops to charge and the stop at the vendor. And a couple used-coffee disposal breaks at rest stops. The stretch to the first rest stop had 0 hard brakes and that included all the...

Took a 600 mile road trip to a vendor yesterday. Stopped to charge there and back and obviously at my destination. Due to a yellow light and a couple other Whoa! moments that were completely beyond my control but totally safe by my measure, I got my first hard braking dings. “No problem! They’ll...

I think they should start with the worst drivers since they need the most help ;)

I wonder how long until Tesla sells indulgences for the remission of safety violations 🤔

Yesterday I took my MS in for low coolant. Turns out it was a bad three way valve. I saw the invoice said “customer pay.” I ask them why not warranty when I went to pick it up. The guy says “oh, it just defaults to that. Yeah, this is warranty.”:rolleyes: So, maybe don’t get too upset until you...

This is sort of tired. Fraud requires proof the defendant intentionally concealed or misrepresented facts the plaintiff relied on to their harm. In this case a plaintiff during discovery would need to subpoena Tesla to provide emails or any communications regarding how they portrayed FSD in all...

I'm going to miss Semi Dance when I move to 3D from 2D 😞 Seriously, recognition of busses, trucks, etc. alongside the car is so bad with the production releases. I can't watch any more beta videos, but are there videos showing this behavior actually being fixed?

This version significantly improved my car's starting and stopping in stop and go traffic. I wonder if it is no longer using the radar for longitudinal control.

Honestly, how softly could I have played that for you? “I don't have anywhere near the time or interest in personally going through a lawsuit, but it's always surprised me that a consumer fraud claim hasn't been brought - at least in Illinois.” This is an honest musing. I bought FSD! Even after...

I don't have anywhere near the time or interest in personally going through a lawsuit, but it's always surprised me that a consumer fraud claim hasn't been brought - at least in Illinois. Here, consumer fraud requires a deception by the defendant, a reliance on that deception by the plaintiff...

I’d imagine most of the reactions to phantom braking, etc are amplified by the fact they’re surprises. They’re startling, so they will seem more dangerous than they really are. Not that they’re not dangerous in and of themselves, but I’d imagine a lot of “slammed on brakes” are actually “applied...