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Data point. Traded my 2018 M3 stealth with FSD in Dec for the MYP and got $49k. Not sure if a good deal or not as it happened quickly and didn’t shop around.

Ah all good. Ok my bad. Yes I did say that in a previous post but was looking at the one you quoted. I kinda re thought that and posted something in between both those posts explaining my reasoning. Anyway, doesn’t matter. We are on the same page. And yes, driving over Berthoud certainly...

If you would have read my whole post in context you would have realized I never said I think it’s fine and not a safety issue. I said I am “fine” using it as it is as I have no choice until Tesla fixes it. In fact, if you have read any of my other posts I’ve repeatedly said the changes are...

Not sure how you took my post and turned it into comparing me to texting and driving. That is a choice. Using the interface that Tesla has given me on a car I purchased is not a choice, unless I choose not to drive the car. It’s simply my opinion and you can disagree with me all you want. Not...

I definitely see your point. I’m not much younger than you and am in tech sales so know my way around software and UI’s, but not from a development standpoint. So it is very easy for me to quickly learn the changes. I certainly agree the interface has taken a step backwards and I’m sure it would...

I keep seeing people say how hazardous the UI is, but I just don’t see it. Yes, the changes were stupid and should be one click instead of two. But there are those of us who can still operate the car safely just fine with the changes. I guess others can’t and feel it’s a huge distraction. To...

Have you looked at these? Not a fan of buttons myself, but these seem to work for people that like them. https://abstractocean.com/products/s3xy-buttons

All great points. I think some people just don’t care. Admittedly I’m in that group. I think a lot of the changes are stupid, but once I figured where they “moved my cheese” to, it doesn’t bother me any longer. Of course if I was a UI designer, it would likely drive me nuts having to deal with...

Well, finally got the Safety Score. Some sort of setting issue on Tesla’s end. Got in Chat with them and they were very helpful. Took a few days, but they made the change and good to go now. Just in case anyone else has this issue.

Interesting thank you. Although I don’t have the other issues mentioned so not certain that is my problem. But certainly worth trying them again. Appreciate the link

Dark Passenger

Colorado is pushing a bill to allow digital plates. If it goes through I’ll buy one of these.

I get this occasionally as well. Of course when it’s actually dirty or blocked by snow/water over the camera. But have also noticed several times where it’s completely dry and not snowing/raining. Seems like it’s when the sun is hitting the camera as it goes away when turning a different...

Definitely an interesting discussion - another example of what we get to “enjoy” by driving a Tesla that we don’t get with a traditional car manufacturer. Picked up my MYP just before Christmas so obviously missed out on the Ryzen and the other new goodies. I do like to have the latest and...

Same here on iOS. Safety score hasn’t shown in over a month. Not getting an error, it’s just not showing at all. Tried opt out/in etc. could it be that they aren’t pushing safety score at this time? Wondering if anyone recently opted in who did get safety score to show. Contacting Tesla is no...

Not trying to flame here, but why would you hold the stalk for an extended time rather than just operate it as used for the other functions? Just wondering if there was some other expected result.

Interesting typo. Or is it? 😂

Yeah I don’t think some people realize it wasn’t blowing through stop signs in a neighborhood. Makes complete sense to me. Same as setting FSD higher than the speed limit. If it were to limit me to the speed limit on the highway I’d have to be in the emergency lane to survive.

Great info thanks. See, now you have me wanting it again. 😜 but without a safety score guess I’m nowhere close

Actually I thought that was a great TLDR. I don’t have beta yet (can’t even get the safety score to show for some reason). But that was my same thought after reading the post from the OP. Maybe I don’t want it. I wanna have fun driving my car. OP, great summary btw. Thanks.

Got my update one day after delivery. But I picked mine up on Dec. 23 so maybe just lucky timing with v11 being pushed the next day.

And a two button car reset never hurts if all else fails. Has solved connection problems in the past for me.

Good idea. Doesn’t really bother me either, but I certainly notice it. So do you notice the piece you added while driving? I’m sure you still see it, just wondering if it’s one of those things you keep looking at because it’s in your field of view (slightly) if it is.

Yep no question Tesla lacks communication. I did send an email off to [email protected] after the service center pointed me to them when I asked why I can’t get the Safety Score. This was the auto-reply. sent it over the weekend and haven’t got another response and doubt I will. Edit...

That would be great, and make sense, if Tesla actually defined how/when to get into the beta, but that’s the first I’ve ever heard of anyone saying they saw a timeline/requirement listed. They just don’t seem to ever do that. Of course, I still can’t even get the Safety Score so it seems I’m a...

All joking aside, you do bring up valid points. Seems that people do drive this differently for some reason, myself included sometimes.

It’s fine, I feel much better now. Mainly because I can’t stop laughing at the fact that someone actually took the time to come back to edit a post to try and get the perfect jab in. 🤣 Sorry, deflecting again. Another bad habit I need to work on.

Man, this really upsets you. Went to go respond to this post, only to notice that you edited it with another big long diatribe after the first two lines. 😝

OMG, and on he goes.

Glad you are adding so much value to this thread. Why don’t you quit worrying about others and go back to your high castle.

I’ll take option F (No Safety Score Available) - can’t for the life of me get the safety score to show for me after over a month of trying. Finally sent an email off to Tesla, hopefully they respond tomorrow. Not holding my breath.

Yeah makes sense to me. Just got me thinking when it said Tesla was the only company focusing on solving HW issues via SW. Thanks.

I wonder how some of the recalls are classified. Do they call the heat pump recall a HW or SW recall? They fixed it via SW but I wonder if they classify it as a HW failure? Not arguing with your logic here, just got me curious how they actually designate some of these things when it’s really a...

Well, there are lots of things that people forget to do everyday while driving. I think they call those accidents when someone makes a mistake. Seems like those happen at least several times a day throughout the world, but I could be wrong. Or maybe I’m just stupid and the only one to ever...

I hear ya loud and clear and even stated in my first sentence that everyone agrees some of the changes were stupid. Great point about people who actually develop this stuff for a living. I can see how it would drive you even more crazy than the rest of us.

^^^This While I think everyone agrees stupid changes we’re made (moving seat heaters, wipers, etc) it’s just really not that difficult. Unless you want it to be.

Well, the whole concept of it does as I’m sure all of us have, at one point or another, had to scramble out of a car for some reason. And if I just got run over I would probably be sketchy on the exact course of events as well. But I could see how this could happen and it is a good reminder to...

Except the running you over part, skip that step.

This is how I read it as well.

If you are on iOS are you on 4.6.0?

You just answered my above question while I was typing. Yeah that is very odd and not correct.

When you click on Service, does it show the car with …psi or not show anything at all?

Actually, you don’t even need that. When the update is available it will prompt you to connnect to wifi to download.

Yep no one has cracked the “rhyme or reason” code on when you get an update.

Soon. Meaning today or weeks, or……😜

Tap here. Mine has a bit of lag to pop up this menu.

Oh gotcha. Sorry, missed the horizontal part.

Im not sure of the default height, but you can adjust it to open lower if this is helpful to you. Adjusting Liftgate Opening Height You can adjust the opening height of the liftgate to make it easier to reach or to avoid low-hanging ceilings or objects (for example, a garage door or light)...

Very nice. Thanks, been looking for someone in this area.

Ugh, makes one really want to do business with them. 🙄 sounds like they have been beaten by Amazon one too many times.