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    Just trying to figure out the economics, thanks in advance

    Interactive map to see if you are in a tier 2 or 3 area: CPUC FireMap FWIW, I think you can also qualify if you are experienced 2 or more power outages due to PSPSs (when the utility shuts down the grid due to risk of fire or whatever)...presumably those two things largely correlate but...
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    Just trying to figure out the economics, thanks in advance

    It is hard to do much analysis without understanding the rate plans available to you. I can almost guarantee that the power walls will destroy the ROI proposition unless SGIP returns in a meaningful way. Totally agree with earlier posts that you should really ROI the solar and power walls...
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    MASTER THREAD: Tesla Insurance Services in California

    FWIW, I had to have my S repaired after someone dinged the the rear quarter panel by the bumper in a parking lot -- they didn't leave a note...lol. Anyway, I used a Tesla authorized body shop. Repair was around $20k (ridiculous but it is what it is)...Progressive covered it all. I kinda felt...
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    MASTER THREAD: Tesla Insurance Services in California

    I did as close as I could get and Progressive was still $200 hundred bucks less (annually) while also including our other vehicle...so, doesn't appear cheaper for me. More options are always welcome though.
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    Anyone regret having a Powerwall installed?

    Why are you considering the power walls? They are not generally a good financial investment without substantial subsidies, most of which are gone at this point. Every circumstance is different, but generally power walls aren't likely to save you more than a few hundred dollars a year unless...
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    Question related to pvoutput-integration-service / pvoutput.org

    It has been a while since I looked at the setup and I still haven't converted over to the docker images but I think that's the basic idea, yes. I'm just not sure if other aspects of the config change or not. I'm on vacation so I can't check my config right now but perhaps someone else has a...
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    Question related to pvoutput-integration-service / pvoutput.org

    Great, glad you were able to figure it out. It is nice to have both generation and consumption data available.
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    Question related to pvoutput-integration-service / pvoutput.org

    Got it, yeah, that is odd -- for the synology to not be able to see the PW but his computer can. If the NAS and the computer are on the same network, I can't really make any sense of that. I'd be curious to see the output from the following command on both his computer and the synology...
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    Question related to pvoutput-integration-service / pvoutput.org

    For what its worth, the "no route to host" means that the docker container's network isn't able to navigate to the PW. If you can get to it from your network via your browser, that implies to me that it is just the docker container that can't get there, which would make a lot of sense if your...
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    Question related to pvoutput-integration-service / pvoutput.org

    That sounds right to me. I suspect my issue re: needing the gateway may be related to how the powerwall was configured/setup. All I know is that I cannot access the PW unless I connect to its "TEG" wifi network -- it doesn't appear to be on my network. The gateway device makes it accessible...
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    Sdge, Ev Tou5, Solar, Powerwall And Sgip?

    No. I have separate charges for all that other stuff...I generated 178 kWh more than I consumed, so that $16.87 credit was the total of the NEM charges (those that can be offset). I sure will miss the EV credit we've been getting the past few years -- that has more than wiped out my...
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    Question related to pvoutput-integration-service / pvoutput.org

    I noticed you referenced "joining the TEG network"...and that doing so allows you to connect to the PW. I ran into the same issue before realizing I was missing the "gateway" component. It was just never installed when my installation happened. I called Tesla (many, many months after my...
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    Ohmconnect

    Yeah, perverse incentives indeed. I mean, charging during peak to maximize your reduction seems quite the opposite of what "should" be done. Given I qualified for SGIP, I don't think I'd feel right about consuming peak power when I think it's clear the intent of that program is to help the...
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    Not one. But two flats.

    I feel your pain. I was driving home from LAX a little after midnight and hit a massive pothole that took out both passenger side tires. Boy does that blow.
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    Ohmconnect

    Interesting. I presume the OhmHours are controlled by the individual utilities. Any idea if those are published somewhere? I'd be curious to understand the history for my utility so I could get a better sense of it. I suppose there is no harm in signing up and just watching for events -- I...
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    Sdge, Ev Tou5, Solar, Powerwall And Sgip?

    My daily drive is 36 miles and my car consumes about 22kWh to charge...so if you achieve a similar result that suggests about 611 kWh/mo to charge your car. (611*.09)+16 = $70.99/mo v (611*.25) = $152.75/mo. BUT...you've also stated you are over-generating currently so the above equations...
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    Sdge, Ev Tou5, Solar, Powerwall And Sgip?

    Completely agree that if backup is important to someone, the Powerwalls can be a great solution. There are pros/cons with more traditional methods so for people who need backup, they will want to compare and contrast the options. I don't think anything can come close to battery backups like...
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    Question related to pvoutput-integration-service / pvoutput.org

    You may be hitting the same issue I did when I put pvoutput on the diskstation. For me, the issue related to the https call...basically, I had to find the right certificate(s) (from the powerwall interface) and add them into the trusted store on the diskstation. If you really want, I can dust...
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    Sdge, Ev Tou5, Solar, Powerwall And Sgip?

    No, you don't lose the ability to sell power back to the grid. I switched from EVTOU2 to EVTOU5 after my year was up back in April. The structure of the bill is basically identical -- the primary difference is the $16 monthly fee and the $0.09 rate for super-off peak...but structurally...
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    Powerwall: To Get or Not To Get

    What does "worth getting" mean to you? The quotes I've seen on this forum for 2 PWs are generally $18-22k installed. The $4,500 figure you mention is just the labor cost -- you're looking at $13-18k more for the PWs and associated equipment. I'm saying this just to make sure you aren't under...
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    Switching circuits from/to PW covered panel

    Ok, so maybe I wasn't crazy after all and this is going to be a mini-project of sorts. One thing is that I'm pretty certain I will need to add more solar. I'm pretty much breakeven at true-up right now, and that's without everything for the landscaping/pool and I intend to replace the wife's...
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    Switching circuits from/to PW covered panel

    Here it is... So you're suggesting we could swap out a few of the current breakers for these quad units and free up some space?
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    Switching circuits from/to PW covered panel

    Yeah, we are definitely having a sub-panel put in (near the pool equipment), I was just hoping that could be wired into the PW panel. The PW panel feeds the entire house at the moment and I don't think there is much/any room left in the panel so I've been assuming something would have to be...
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    Switching circuits from/to PW covered panel

    Yeah, they are basically behind each other...uncovered panel is on the exterior wall of the garage, PW panel is basically the same place but on the interior wall...so the distance is negligible. I just wasn't sure if there was any special complexity to doing it that may not be obvious to...
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    Switching circuits from/to PW covered panel

    So, when I had my 2 PWs installed, I ended up putting my entire house on the covered panel...including my AC units and my tesla wall charger. My landscaping will be wrapping up in the next few months and that includes a pool. I don't think I can fit the pool into the PW panel, at least not...
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    Sdge, Ev Tou5, Solar, Powerwall And Sgip?

    The problem is batteries without serious incentives are way too expensive for them to pay for themselves, let alone save money. I'm not sure what incentives are still available re: SGIP, but I don't think it's substantial enough at this point to make it cost effective. The 30% federal credit...
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    Sdge, Ev Tou5, Solar, Powerwall And Sgip?

    I'd consider EV TOU5 without the power wall if you are focused on $. Based on the usage you provided, I don't think the PW will help you a ton and they are a lot of money now that the subsidies are so reduced or outright gone. If you want it for backup power and have the money, sure, go for...
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    Anyone install a powerwall in San Diego with SDG&E TOU5

    ...I'm sure gonna miss the EV credit. It wiped out the last specs of juice I had to pay for...with the pool going in and the landscaping finishing up soon, I suspect I'm going to be feeling it next year. :(
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    Anyone install a powerwall in San Diego with SDG&E TOU5

    I used Tesla...I was supposed to make SGIP tier 1 but Tesla over-promised and I ended up in step 2...which was still awesome. But as others have pointed out, SGIP is largely tapped out for SDGE at this point.
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    $2500 CA Rebate Experience?

    I looked at the form again and you are correct, I don't see a reference to the signature being required to be original; however, I'm attaching a snip from the email I received saying that is the case: "Signed Application Form: Your rebate application form was not signed or was signed...
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    Solar Panels + Powerwall

    It doesn't seem like a 4kW system is going to produce your low-end target of 30kWh/day. I'm in SoCal and my 6.175kW system doesn't produce 30kWh/day all year round...we've had some bad weather this week for example, and I've only exceeded 30kWh on 3 days...2 were less than half that... Agree...
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    $2500 CA Rebate Experience?

    I had used adobe acrobat's "e-signature" feature to attach my signature to the form but they do not accept electronic signature or even "scans" of a signature. It states it on the form but I didn't see it/think it mattered. Apparently it does.
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    PSA: Tesla solar panels $1.70-$1.99/watt

    I wonder if some of the hesitation the realtor sees is from leased panels or something. Leased panels definitely complicate the sales process. I would think owned panels would be easy to dispel any concerns: they are clearly an asset. Even in a market where solar isn't common, I'd be a little...
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    Small Solar Array. Large Energy Demand

    Thanks for the correction! Also, if I recall there is some threshold involved I think too, right? As in, you have to charge at least x% from solar to qualify. Ok, yeah, I just looked it up again, must charge at least 75% from solar. I don't know if that matters though as I'm not sure it is...
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    Small Solar Array. Large Energy Demand

    I'm not sure whether they'll configure powerwalls to charge from the grid -- they certainly do in other countries, just not entirely sure they do it here. If they do, you definitely won't qualify for the SGIP rebate, which means you're looking at more like a $17+k investment. Hard to see how...
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    Small Solar Array. Large Energy Demand

    That's a lot of power. What is going on to pull that much power -- AC? I'd say the safest bet would be spending money to reduce your consumption...more efficient appliances and the like. I agree with miimura, I suspect a gas generator would likely be more cost effective if that is an option...
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    New San Diego Solar + PW - How long to get “Permission to Operate”

    Yeah, I was surprised by the situation because I expected to be dormant until permission to operate. But the installers said they leave it on...when the inspector comes, sometimes they'll turn it off. Said he hadn't experienced any negative outcomes re: having it on. But I'm no expert and not...
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    New San Diego Solar + PW - How long to get “Permission to Operate”

    Same setup for me in Orange county...installed Dec 17. Everything was active and working immediately. Permission to operate for PV and batteries came separately. Took several months, not sure why. I can't remember if I had to stay in self-consumption mode or anything though but my billing...
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    2018 m3p demo for 7k off?

    How many miles? I'd take the money in a heartbeat if I thought the condition of the car was good.
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    Why get a Powerwall?

    Well, I tried to go back and find my documentation because I don't want to be spreading bogus information. I can't locate the quotes from Tesla with any breakdown between my solar and the batteries; however, I did find the document stating the "equipment cost" for the two powerwalls as $12,865...
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    Why get a Powerwall?

    Backup power is the primary reason to get the powerwall. It would simply take too long to recover their cost based on whatever arbitrage you get unless you still have massive subsidies available where you live. FWIW, the pricing seems pretty outrageous based on what I paid for my two...
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    Reduced price Autopilot & FSD for existing owners announced March 1st

    I hear you; I think we crossed wires a bit re: "new buyers." I meant new buyers of AP + FSD...not of a new car. My comments were specifically talking about the context of existing owners and the prices they would be paying/had paid for the features. None of my comments were meant to relate to...
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    Reduced price Autopilot & FSD for existing owners announced March 1st

    I have no idea where you are getting your numbers but they aren't the numbers any of us on this thread are discussing and I don't think they reflect the announcements Tesla made recently about the drop in pricing for these features. Yes, it was $8,000 for people that bought EAP ($5,000) + FW...
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    Reduced price Autopilot & FSD for existing owners announced March 1st

    I hear you. I just don't think the label 'beta' is a useful way to apply value to the feature. EAP is here and has been for a long time. Many of us use it every day. It is legitimate software providing real-world value and sticking a label of 'beta' on it doesn't change that fact. The beta...
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    Reduced price Autopilot & FSD for existing owners announced March 1st

    Can we all agree StealthP3D is trolling here? My favorite part was the reference to "the world of valuation". Great stuff. Valuation might be appropriate to a conversation about purchasing ownership of a company or piece of intellectual property, but that's not what any of us are doing. We...
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    Reduced price Autopilot & FSD for existing owners announced March 1st

    I don't have super-strong feelings on this debate, but I can explain why people are upset: something has changed...the price of FSD dropped by $1,000. People feel like they paid for a product that hasn't been delivered, ONLY because it would cost more later, and now it is being offered for sale...
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    Quote - too good to be true?

    I'd want to double check with an accountant on that interpretation. Certain rebates you are entitled to may need to be factored into the computation. In CA, we have a state rebate program for batteries/energy storage. Everything I've read and been told states that we have to exclude the...
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    Anyone install a powerwall in San Diego with SDG&E TOU5

    Agree that generally the arbitrage would take a while to achieve significant payback...we don't generate much during super-off peak hours so the arbitrage is between off-peak and peak...which is zero on the winter cycle but as you point out substantial during the summer. But we just don't use...
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    Question for M3 white interior owners

    All I see is the road I'm about to chew up... I was nervous about the white but ended up loving it. Haven't noticed any wear/dirty issues but I've only had it since August.
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    $2500 CA Rebate Experience?

    I originally applied on 9/27. Received notice I had to resubmit on 12/18 (signature issue). Resubmitted same day, refund check received mid January after receiving notice of mailing on 1/15.