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For some reason it’s not in the navigation system for me

nah they just have it figured out!

oh man :( I hope it doesn't take 6 months... that would mean we'd have to wait until next spring? so like almost another 12 months

construction of the other chargers are done, anyone see any activity here yet?

Are these ready to be used yet ?

anyone stop by here to see if anything is happening?

Some more parts have arrived !! Yep definitely looks like Tesla supercharger! Can we mark this location as under construction ? How do we do that?

I saw these guys here in the back of the parking lot. Think they are related to the conduit installation ?

Woah!!! So this suggests work will start this week. And go on until May 18th? What is conduit? "Install Conduit"

Awesome!! Hopefully that means construction starts soon!

I drove by just now, and still nothing to report.

thanks for the update

Alright it's about Q2 2022, let's see it Tesla, and the Maple Grove one too!

So that would mean starting this spring, in the next few months. I hope you are right.

Tesla's website Find Us | Tesla Says this charger is coming Q2 2022, even after the recent map refresh that just happened. Think that is still happening? Coming this Spring/Summer?

any info on when it will be built?

I have seen this yes preventable, and yes full wide release could be different for this if necessary "but you have to be right on top of it, and it will kill you if you aren't." ..... oh kind of like regular driving everyday? Tesla explained in the report to Cali DMV that there will be...

you are simply reinforcing and proving his point... this is not a counter argument. red light alert doesn't happen on cars without FSD??? if they have autopilot enabled and are about to run a red light? Dang! Safety as a feature I guess.

FSD beta was never advertised though, they will get NoA City streets feature when it goes to wide release which won't be too long. FSD beta will go to maybe 10-20k opt in users with good driving history and I guess maybe not S/X except for some exceptions maybe Yea but you don't need to be...

Yes the old S/X does not have DMS. Maybe they won't be eligible for the early beta Torque sensor can tell if hands are on the wheel. And also car suddenly accelerating into traffic is not related to the steering wheel. FSD beta will probably require confirmations to proceed in many...

Have there been any reported accidents ever of someone baby sitting (actually paying attention) an AV / ADAS system and then crashed?

The human simply always assumes worst case, never allows entering into a situation where they are unable to get out of if the AI takes worst possible action. There are over a hundred companies that have tested automated systems on public roads with safety drivers, all have better records than...

But it will also lead to positive PR too. and people using FSD beta will most likely being paying more attention than normally driving, especially if Tesla enforces this with DMS. This will lead to FSD beta having fewer accidents overall, and thus even more positive PR Well... we know they...

Opt in still seems likely... Why do you want a button vs just everyone getting the feature?

Can you confirm this is Elon's exact words, direct quote from this Earnings call? Or did you do any paraphrasing?

Probably bug fixes in planning, decision making, and other logic unrelated to perception pipeline

now we can put it out of mind for awhile

must have been important bug fix, if pushing 11pm Friday night (cali time)

FSD beta folks typically get emailed letting them know a new FSD beta update is coming right?

Exactly... but yo.. where is the v8.3 watch?

what motive does Whole Mars Blog have to play with our emotions?

Exactly, and to add to that they may make the button available... and only actually trigger the download and install to ~10k or so in March... and gradually add people over Q2... but I can see them considering this enough to recognize more revenue

Not true. Perception, Prediction, Object and Lane fusion, etc, etc are all improved in the FSD beta for highways

I also think the "download beta" button will come around the end of March It may not download it right away for everyone who presses it though

None of these IR cameras affect the active ADAS system yet though right? I didn't know about ProPilot.... and no thermal on the Mach-E yet right? In a few more years it will, could be wrong though. Update: ohhh was this was about DMS? my bad, I didn't have full context

Yea I understand all of this... and figured this is what you were getting at. I just wanted to say "pushing the limits of L2" is a poor way of describing it... but I guess most people probably would have understood what you meant, and that is a lot fewer words than your explanation above... So...

Yea I hope this doesn't happen

Not true. They intended for this.

Like others have said... not just improving the accuracy of object detection... but increasing the accuracy and reliability of everything! L3 is getting everything 100x-1000x more reliable so reliable that driver can take eyes off road and OEM take responsibility. Tesla is not doing this. But...

Wait, I am pretty sure Musk said 8.2 has 1000 of improvements... then 8.3 would ofc have many as well. And yes looks like potentially wide release of v8.3... then v9 would come a little while later which would complete the transition to new NN arch and supposedly major performance improvement...

Hahah, absolutely agree

I thought the general consensus is that they have switched some NNS to surround video like the networks that do road layout, lanes, and trajectory... but as we know they have dozens of NNs... and are still working on porting all of them to new arch... Perhaps this latest tweet suggests, next...

This approach would also make a lot of sense if it was paired with higher resolution cameras... like a few MP. most of the time downscaled and processed and whatever they process at now... but for certain things can take a crop from the high resolution image.. I wonder if Tesla will ever...

I was wondering about this also, and was happy to read the takes from you and @Mardak Here are some initial thoughts / assumptions I had that might be completely wrong. I assumed this meant there are certain NNs that are trained for something specific and only process a certain region of...

Yea... what the heck does he even mean by that?

I just want the new NNs / perception stack and new lane keeping that is in the FSD beta... If I get that with 0 new features, I would be happy. I'd gladly pay 10k for that right now, on top of what I already paid for FSD.

I think this is reasonable. I'd expect all the new FSD features (though with confirmations) by the end of Q2. But if they decide to first release the rewrite without the new FSD features enabled yet, which I think is a possibility, I'd bet they do that before end of Q1

You have a source with Waymo/Cruise engineers or just assuming based on videos and what you understand about how their system works? You misunderstand HD maps. Yes they are used to localize and give you a predefined space, but that is a starting point and not the end all of end all. The maps...

That is one possible way to do it. I don't know the details of how Waymo and Cruise software works, however, long term I assume they will expand with drivable space (even if map restricts) using onboard sensors including Lidar... if they haven't done so already. I'd actually be surprised if...

Obviously that is what I meant. "Lidar data can be used for the software to detect x".... is often shortened to just "Lidar is used to detect x".... Give me a break.. I think is is pretty clear what I meant. Furthermore, Lidars that are sold to OEMs to consumer vehicles today... almost always...