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  1. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    so in addition to being a troll you are calendar challenged 12 months would be Nov 2024
  2. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    COVID induced short term vehicle price movements have nothing to do with my point ... legacy going back ICE /Hybrids due to need for short term profits ....and after all ot them claiming pivot to BEV the past few years .. hence the dilemma ... they don't make any profit on BEV ... so they...
  3. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Innovators dilemma playing out for legacy OEMs in a slow motion train wreck... they deserve to fail at this point
  4. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    most of my disengagements are due to my "unsafe" impatience
  5. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    soon to be former head of investor relations ..
  6. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    sellers remorse kicking in :p
  7. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    did we shake out all the bears yet ? this is one of the most balanced conference calls i can remember.. Elon is on ... CFO is clear .. . Lars is presumptive successor to Elon
  8. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    anecdotally not my experience reading the Cybertruck owners club forum ... many are new to Tesla and are previous truck owners per their bios and i have seen @anthonyj venting about his CT over there also ... patience grasshopper
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    spent the weekend using 12.3.4 ... my biggest regression is incorrectly reading speed limits , it is using route signs to adjust for speed for example route 30 sign reduced speed to 30 mph Max ... route 28 reduce speed to 20 mph Max... very strange regression
  10. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    it is possible that you may have been rear ended either way ... FSD or no FSD
  11. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Elon is mission driven ... all the cry babies worrying about their portfolios are greed driven .. WS crybabies GFY speaking of being a crybaby ... WTF is my Cybertruck :p these defects and delays are unacceptable since my personal mission is to cease using petrol
  12. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    if you are long term investor ....you don't sell when shares that on sale/discount ... you buy shares you sell if you think the company has no prospects in the future and after doing the required research ... you have determined there is a better long term opportunity vs the stock you are...
  13. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    why dont folks on this thread realize the RT and Model 2 are not mutually exclusive , they will do both get RT line running , then announce similar to Model Y with little fanfare the Model 2 .... eliminate Osbourne effect what am i missing ???
  14. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    www.SupportTeslaValue.com this link was in the SEC filing ... from today ..
  15. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    SS does not rot it only rusts :cool:
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    any Investor with significant shares of TSLA and a Tesla should have FSD to monitor their investment thesis ... this way you have first hand facts on the progress... i understand if you are not an investor ... but if you are... a serious investor (since you are on this thread) SW is the...
  17. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    which one is yours ? mine is first row 4th position with open tonneau cover
  18. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    so you just dropped by to whine brag... i thought you would be busy on your yacht from your $350/share gains
  19. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    barry Glack should be happy 🤡
  20. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    this is why i invested in Tesla ... i would never invest in a "car " company right now they are both Apple and Google (smart phone OS analogy) stop competing with all the low cost HW vendors and pivot to Energy and Software late 2018 model S HW3... i think .. never got 12.3.3 12.x was delayed...
  21. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    bit of a stretch to call these 2 executives... they are middle managers at best
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    not my experience with 12.3.4 at all very confident in picking lanes especially on NYC streets with 4 lanes and parking in one of the lanes where cars go in and out of lanes to avoid parked cars ... just did a drive it was great at it ...
  23. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    same here 12.3.4 is pretty amazing ... still have disengagements but most are due to my level of comfort as a driver ...second guessing FSD if i was a passenger looking at my phone or otherwise distracted i would probably not even notice one more thing .. i had pretty much stopped using FSDb on...
  24. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    facts do not fit the recent FUD narrative here on TMC look at 2018 just as the M3 was ramping ... we had the same hand wringing going on at that time ... oh no they are cutting workers the M3 is a failure ... sky is falling:eek:
  25. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    it could be any or all of those reasons ... and if he did not like the direction AI/Robotics then his role is diminished going forward ... still and important role but no longer as key going forward ...
  26. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    spot on .. i think Karpathy left for this reason in terms of the FSD mgmt job vs the research and development job
  27. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    maybe his wife gave him the ultimatum
  28. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    working for elon you need to be both and engineer and a leader
  29. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    limit ordered triggered on "news " today another 40 shares at $165.98... DCA continues
  30. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    correct Drew has been working hardcore for 18 years (which is like 50 years anywhere else )... not comparable to what most folks on this thread have experienced
  31. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    need my CT to get to Zero gasoline ... even got a battery powered outboard (torqeedo) for my sailboat .. once CT is delivered no more direct gasoline purchases for me my 10 year goal is almost complete three years early GFY exxon mobil... come on CT lets go
  32. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    you are paying $20K to get it this year and to be one of the first CT owners in NJ ;) and we still don't know the long term value of FSD
  33. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    finally got update on my MS today ... did a quick drive it is a big improvement over V11
  34. Zero CO2

    Official Foundation Series Dual Motor Waiting room

    I am curious as what were your mixed feelings? how it looked/reduced specs from 2019 ... I think the CT is going to be a blockbuster but still not sure .. i I take a mixed feeling converted into " truck is incredible. Drives like a dream, better than an S in my opinion. I’m honestly floored by...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Puzzled Prospective Ford customer ... who also owns a Tesla and does not have to trade it in: " Wait a minute why are you willing to give me $1500 for owning a Tesla and buying Ford EV which we you have supposedly paused production.... are you going to support EVs going forward? "Sounds risky...
  36. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Ford is an absolute clown show if this is real 🤡
  37. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    there are 5 million on the road today ... the software just needs a few more tweaks
  38. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    How many times does this one need to be debunked? :D
  39. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    chaucer ...“Avarice is the root of all evil”.
  40. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    throwback ...back in 2018 they called her Catherine.... CNBS had respect back then... funny thing is back in 2018 i would have been happy with the bear case
  41. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    you are a bit tiring with your constant negative bias ...dark and stormy indeed ... :p .. you have been here nearly 3 years and your post are predominantly bearish/negative ... i certainly don't agree with all things Tesla does but they are more right than wrong with their decision making ...
  42. Zero CO2

    ALL CyberTruck discussion

    if you start using FSD ... you will be using it 12 months a year :D
  43. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    saw this on X ... still not happy about it but at least a response has been given as an investor i get it ... as an early adopter customer ... Tesla does not reward you ... you might even say they punish you
  44. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    many are just dishonest ... i would not give them credit for the intellectual part
  45. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    i suppose ... but like i said he could not forecast the exogenous events from the last 3 months ...this report is disappointing..but i do take the energy growth at 16% YOY and 40% QOQ as a counter to the weak auto numbers
  46. Zero CO2

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    from Q423 report "Volume Our company is currently between two major growth waves: the first one began with the global expansion of the Model 3/Y platform and the next one we believe will be initiated by the global expansion of the next-generation vehicle platform. In 2024, our vehicle volume...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    at this stage of Tesla growth his work is unnecessary ... the best forecast is no forecast .. just report the P&D for vehicles at earnings report ...