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Oh I can't wait to debate you when I'm buying my Crestwhite bubble gum

at least my 70K car isn't flat loaded onto a trailer after the first week At least I don't have to check CarFax for damage reports prior to buying my first 60K car

Ok thank you mommie/daddie --- who cares what's said on this forum --- But I promise you -- you won't ever see Tesla powered lawnmowers in Home Depot And I promise you that your $60K "LR" is a piece of trash with vinyl seats has an entertainment system that is worse than my 2003 Honda Civic Si

One thing I thought was valuable advice: Bonnie's input --- he/she has been considered a wise member of the Telsa community All of us have determined Telsa is a different type of car company -- where driveabilty and consumer comfort is not a priority The abiltity to actually drive your new...

At least those goal posts would result in a better product --- I was a fan -- I hoped the M3 would be the vehicle that I could afford to buy into.. At this point, with the vinyl seats and shitty center screen --- I don't have to worry about Tesla being the first "real" car I purchase in my...

Pardon me --- I thought this was a public transportation forum.... But if you want to restrict the type of people who can access high speed transportation --- lets start that discussion now -- first question is who is eligible for full rights to driving, drivers' license, insurance benefits...

Look I get it -- but Tesla is not the hill to die on.....in the real world of technology integration or real world revlance --- Telsla's technology is not a consideration.... Seriously -- it's come to that point and I'm about to create a topic related to this

Yes -- but Honda's brand name, and the reliablity assoicated with it, outranks Telsa... Sorry but you have lost....Tesla still builds cars with 12V system failures, and quality failures not associated with $60 cars (I work at Micron's Manassas facility and there's a blue Model 3 with...

The best thing of being a real engineer ---- you learn to not care about what anyone says You get it or you dont --- I'm sure there are some true engineers on this website but it's getting to the point where the true engineers are jumping the Tesla ship As for me --- I love what I do ---- and...

Bonnie --- if you seek to discredit Honda as a quality manufacturer of any kind -- you have lost

That's all we want -- a product that works.....That's why I like Honda.... and to be honest - if Tesla adopted some of the lessons Honda has learned over time (Honda was not perfect from the start --- they learned how to adapt to their consumers' needs) I would support them But I have not seen...

But if I sold you a lawnmower, car, or airplane ---- I could tell you it would start every time you wanted it to start --- and I wouldn't be lieing to you

Wise answer

And I'm an engineer who loves Honda

Are you familiar with how Honda was founded? I'll give you a bonus hint: it is antithetical to Telsa and be cautious --- Honda designs/builds robots and airplanes in addition to formula 1 cars and the best motorcyles in world

youtube is a great source of information for many subjects, do you disagree?

What cars?

I restate my original thesis: Tesla has staked out their own "area" which they test their "self driving" features, utilzing willing and payin customers That model (Tesla's model) does not apply to other auto manufacutures --- Tesla's model is unorthodox and would not be accepted by normal...

Why would I ever think there was an issue? Why would my silly mind ever think a Tesla Model X dumped water into its interior cabin? Youtube???

I was just looking at your profile picture --- I apologize for assuming...You know what they say about assuming.... ;)

My car doesn't dump rain water into the occupant's cabin when you open the doors I'm not sure you want to make this into a Honda vs Tesla debate....

Your arrogance is your biggest disservice I'm not the one defending messed up cars -- end of discussion

You're a software engineer ---- I do life safety systems for manufacturers (LONworks, Modbus+, BACnet) I don't want to over generalize --- but the criticism of Tesla is that they approach their problems from a Silicon Valley approach as opposed to a real world approach

You do realize that there are many more lives at stake than the driver's? What about everyone else??? it's ok to endanger their lives?

I am on a mission -- I was entranced by Tesla's dual screens back around 2015 --- I am an electrical engineer by education and a long term field technician by trade (before I became an engineer --- I saved up to pay for my education) Telsa's validation system / safety testing --- puts their...

If you look at my prior quotes -- you will see I reached out to a fellow TMC member to test drive his/her MS --- I have always been transparent on this forum

Being transparent in 2018 involves social media --- for any industry I thought Tesla was suppose to be "modern"

GM Supercruise is only available on highways that have already been mapped by LIDAR --- thereby reducing the risks

Elon Musk does not design rockets --- he hired the laid-off NASA engineers Elon musk did not design those rockets, nor did he design the system that lands them on barges I hate when people assume that when Space-X does something right, that it validates the dumb decisions made by Tesla The...

you can't own a Tesla without internet access (LTE or wifi) -- how else can you get OTA? And that must mean Tesla really misjudged the whole "phone as key" situation --- they were silly when they thought all Tesla owners had smartphones they could use as car keys...... And yet --- they ****ed...

It is up to Telsa to provide transparency --- and ensure the safety of its users AND the bystanders I am a systems integrator --- the whole tesla situation is unbelievable to me --- Autopilot is a huge liabilty I couldn't imagine any company assuming...... The whole beta-testing in public...

I was hoping you would ask :)

Honda technology:

I have a framed copy of this in my man-cave ---- Tesla has a long way to go before they can compare to Honda in terms of technology and manufacturing Honda is one of the very few companies that achieves the highest degree of performance reliable/affordable/efficiency while at the same time...

You are neglecting to take into account that the rest of the automotive industry produces more than 3 models of cars And you are utilizing the "strawman" to an extreme degree --- Honda is my favorite car company

I beg to disagree -- we are living in a society where internet/youtube data is increasingly used for consumer purchasing decisions -- I can state (with a hefty degree of confidence) that everyone relies on internet/youtube (and Reddit) for information when making important decisions. A perfect...

Thanks

That's how the rest of the automotive industry creates rapport with consumers -- make their vehicles/systems validation procedures available to the general public.... "Social media" -- for better or for worse --- is how a lot of things are "hashed out" now-a-days I'm just pointing out how...

I think posting the youtube search results answer your question --- sorry if my implications were too vague

Welcome to the world of Tesla and EV ---- things are never as they seem

Just curious --- why did you drive a S100D for a month?

At least Vovlo is honest

Two topics in this thread: 1) Why doesn't the M3 have WIFI ability yet? What are the reasons it has not been enabled yet? 2) Do Model 3 owners have to pay for data usage for OTA updates?

Coming from a TMC elder like yourself - I appreciate the honest answer....

Yeah Samsung makes the best smartphone screens (and cameras), the only to retain expandable storage, headphone jack, the only to retain performance for older phones with new OS....Yeah I will be avoiding Samsung too /s Sarcasm aside --- LG sucks at making smartphone screens (or smartphones in...

That answers my question.....