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The problem is that the average driver is not trained to handle all unexpected scenarios, and split-second decisions by the driver would only work if he is not testing the system's limits and is in complete control of the car with full attention as the scene plays out. If anyone thinks they...

my impression of Elon Musk has changed over the period. Initially, I thought of him as a visionary leader who wanted to set his company apart from others. I never thought he was the kind of person who would put his personal/corporate profit ahead of customers. That impression has changed over...

One of the reasons I'm not considering buying Tesla as a replacement for 2nd car is that the overall build quality of M3 is OK. I'm not sure how much build quality has improved as it falls short of a true luxury experience.

Finally... In the last few years, Tesla somehow managed to turn from best in class to the bottom of the class customer experience.

I couldn't agree more; I believed what he said in the past, but over time, I have realized he has a habit of making things up from the air! For example, he will be shocked if the FSD software is not complete by year-end!! Seriously....!! Anyone part of the Beta program knows software is far...

Beta 44.30.21 and yes.. that's how I normally report issues. I hope someone seriously looks at this incident as I could have been 1st casulty of FSD. I have decided not to enable FSD anymore, except it is a straight road or a highway that I'm familiar with. It was scary!! ( my wife told me not...

so, yesterday I almost got into an accident when FSD decided to make a left turn at a traffic light without right of way.:oops: I almost ended up bumping into on-coming traffic but the other guy was nice enough to slow down and I was alert to take over at moment's notice. Let me tell ya...

That's too bad, push your service center and ask them to talk to their US counterparts. It is certainly a known defect in order gen model 3 where seat doesn't securely latch at the place and has a little bit of wobbling effect when you accelerate and/or deaccelerate.

A little late to this thread, I had exact same issue with 2018 model 3, after 2-3 repetitive complaints, they acknowledge the issue with the seat and finally got it replaced with a new one under the warranty. It is a known issue with older generation model 3. at first, Tesla will deny the...

sure, will do! I'm getting it installed next Friday. So will update the post in about 3-4 weeks.

Ok... I pulled the Trigger on Nokian WR G4 Hopefully, it works well for the average driver like me!

I put too much faith in Elon when he told us will turn my car into a money-making machine! 🤣 anyhow, now we all know it is a lot harder problem to solve than what anyone in the industry expected!

dumb question as I'm not an expert at this, but you can't put 18 inch XL tire on 19 in the rim, can you? current OEM tires look nice but it is too thin for my liking and not sure there is a way to add more rubber without swapping out rims to 18 inches. I wish would have gone with 18 inch for...

Thanks guys! what do you think about Nokians? I read somewhere their tires are offers good comfort and all weather perfromance.

Hey Guys, Does anyone have a good Tire Recommendation for the Model 3 - 19 inch wheels? My main priority is a less noisy and comfortable ride - all weather tires (need to handle east coast roads). I find current OEM tires to be a bit noisy at higher speeds. Thanks in advance for your help.

On the same boat as you, my friend! I consider my 3K investment in FSD as a write-off, I was expecting it to be fully functional within 5 years but that wouldn't be the case. Now, I'm not sure if I want to buy another Tesla even though I'm due for a new 2nd car.

hmm.. sounds like a familiar promo video 🙄 https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-autopilot-video-self-driving-crash-barrier-nyt-2021-12?fbclid=IwAR27UXxK_M6zWkKslbf6DBhxIflcCKN8d8n3sOYvWhUHsoI0tQ1cQDdMeoM

"enabling full self-driving in almost all circumstances!" Right now, advise me of one circumstance where FSD is not in beta!! None... because almost in all circumstances it is expecting you to take over at a moment's notice! Give me a break... That's not FSD, that's Level 2 ADAS.

You hit the nail on the head! Tesla's marketing through their website and CEO's tweets suggested that Full Self Driving without any human intervention is what the average consumer is paying for back in 2018. These are the folks who by word of mouth helped create Tesla's brand value. Now, as...

I must say, you have provided one of the most comprehensive, meaningful, and objective analyses in this debate. Thank you for your insight, you must have studied the law!

As far as I know, Jury has the ability to award higher compensation based on the damage formula. The point here is deceptive marking practices must end to protect consumers' rights. Fans can argue all day that Tesla is a great company and they didn't do anything wrong but at the end of the day...

I think about 10% range loss is the new normal. I would be concerned if drops to 20%! This also changes the financial model to own EV, your charging cost may not go up but range loss + winter could put a significant limitation on the ability to drive further.

I have no idea what you read every day but I bet some liberal media is from where you get your news! Mine (or anyone's) Avtar has nothing to do with Tesla's failure to deliver FSD. Appreciate your kindness, lets keep discussing in this thread Tesla's failure to deliver FSD and its possible...

.... don't insult my Tesla Vision!! 🤨 guess someone else is thinking along the same lines ---- “That’s not enough. It’s clear that if you are marketing something as full self-driving and it is not full self-driving and people are misusing the vehicles and the technology that you have a design...

... and all I'm saying is that Tesla had been there until Model 3 happened! That's how big things start in today's world! Lucid/Rivan (not legacy automakers) will provide real competition to Tesla and that is absolutely required to ensure Tesla doesn't play around with consumers with fake FSD...

not sure why you are defending Tesla? Maybe that's your full-time job! :) They did a lot of good things but they also outright promised what they couldn't deliver till this date!!! That's why we need competition in the market.. so people like me don't have to come to forums like this to figure...

Friendly reminder: Where was Tesla a few years back? 🤨 That's how Tesla started and BIG 3 didn't take it seriously. It's called 'Karma.'

I think very few people paid an extra 2-3K on the top of EAP and still have a strong opinion about what was included or what wasn't. To your point, if the software capability promised remains undelivered, shouldn't the license be transferred to new hardware? (aka new car) I think my next car...

so what's the deal with the new cameras for autopilot 2.0!? my vision is lately getting blurred.

I have mentioned this before but will go on the record again, I will wait until end of 2022 for Tesla to deliver FSD because.. I want Tesla to be Successful, I don’t want Tesla to fail. If at that point, FSD still appears like Elon’s illusion then as an owner of Tesla and early investor I feel...

Is Tesla really ahead or it is illusion that they are ahead? I have been driving M3 since 2018 and while UI and lane keeping has improved.. It still makes different decisions under similar type of situations. That introduces elements of uncertainty and as a driver you have no idea what AI is...

Well… so class action is possible! Now, if we tie this to investor fraud since Tesla’s valuation reflects Robotaxi revenue tied to FSD… company has lot more to be worried about! Let’s hope they do deliver FSD.

It would be insulting to call Tesla a car company… they don’t like it!! 😂 I think that’s area one has to explore, it is about delivery of the software. I’m sure as time goes on and they continue to lack final delivery of the software, those who paid for FSD would start raising their voice...

I’m just curious… Tesla is not a traditional car dealer, in fact people argue that it is a tech company so I have to think that failure to deliver software should be viewed under consumer rights act as applicable to digital goods.

Their marketing material clearly stated no human intervention is required at the time of purchase, followed by a demo of their system on the website/youtube to back their written advertisement claims. Purchase contract nowhere states that FSD is level 2 only... and CEO famously gave the...

That might be the case, but why people who feel like they have been duped by Tesla are treated as if they are criminals!? :) I didn't tell Tesla to advertise the way they did, and it seems to be still my fault! It's like Nikola's story - in that case, Short Seller had vested interest, but the...

😁I think the fact is that some people wants to defend Tesla no matter what... Tesla is religion & Elon is the god!

Think for a minute, why others who are already approaching Level 3/4 are using more sensors than just a Camera? Because all the smart engineers around the world only work for Tesla or they believe Tesla's approach may not achieve true autonomy! I think it is later based on progress made by...

boy.. where did you get this from? 🤣 That's my Tesla Vision. 😎

If I don't have the service they charged me during the useful life of the product, they simply couldn't deliver! yes... In 100 years he can make my Tesla fly but who cares!! :) You can't take money from customers and don't deliver products.

and for a record, I do own a small number of Tesla stocks which I plan to hold until I retire. I do not have any short position but that shouldn't stop me from doing the right thing... money will come and go in life, but the ethical value is what's going to define you.

It is Fool's Self Driving!! ahh, now I know... 😇

my 1998 Hyundai came with FSD. I can press the button and the car would maintain the speed! 😊

I value your opinion and certainly, I'll take legal opinion into the account as I'm no an expert at this - may be small claim court is the best way to go forward if Tesla fails to deliver the final product. hopefully, consumer awareness will prevent others to fall into this trap and not waste...

you can't have indefinite timelines to deliver the product and a lot of folks have presented facts about how Tesla marketed their FSD product. What is the evidence that they plan to deliver the final product, by what time? keeping regulatory approval aside, the system can't even see road closed...

Not everyone is motivated to make money on their failure. I think it is unethical to sell something that you can't deliver but I understand also some people are ok with giving them a pass.

2018 Model 3 LR: 90% charge used to get 290 miles in 2018 90% charge used to get 284 miles in 2019 90% charge used to get 278 miles in 2020 90% charge gets 268 miles in 2021. I have observed noticeable degradation after a software update that makes me believe that Tesla might be like Apple...

Read the entire thread and you will find answers that you are looking for… but given your question you won’t and that’s ok!!

Feel free to go and check history- Bottomline remains the same: Tesla made false claims about their system’s capabilities and lured buyers into buying a product (or service) they can’t deliver!! Anyhow— I have no idea why I’m debating this with you because at this point for anyone with...

So I guess you understand what happens to these liabilities when you can’t deliver what you promised! That’s money you owe to someone and if you can’t payback you liquidate your assets. … and that’s a point we are making. Good to see that you agree that they have unfulfilled liability aka...